Papiss Cissé

[Dave]

I'd be very interested to see the opinions if another player came out in support of Cisse's stance; I think a lot of this vitriol is just an excuse for people to moan about religion and Muslims in particular. He's entitled to his view on Wonga. If he simply wants to leave then he'd have put in a transfer request before now.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

I'd be very interested to see the opinions if another player came out in support of Cisse's stance; I think a lot of this vitriol is just an excuse for people to moan about religion and Muslims in particular. He's entitled to his view on Wonga. If he simply wants to leave then he'd have put in a transfer request before now.

 

 

Concise and on point.

 

 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

I agree with Dave.

[Jimburst]

I'd be very interested to see the opinions if another player came out in support of Cisse's stance; I think a lot of this vitriol is just an excuse for people to moan about religion and Muslims in particular. He's entitled to his view on Wonga. If he simply wants to leave then he'd have put in a transfer request before now.

 

Aye, the transfer request thing. I don't get why Bimpy, TT etc seem to think his ulterior motive is to force a move. People have done it many times without needing to bring their religion into it

[Skirge]

Newcastle fan claims he caught Papiss Cisse gambling

The Voice Online-3 minutes agoShare

The Newcastle United striker is currently in a dispute with the club over its shirt ... A Newcastle United spokeswoman declined to comment on the picture last ...

http://www.voice-online.co.uk/article/newcastle-fan-claims-he-caught-papiss-cisse-gambling

[maybe_next_year]

The Voice Online? Isn't that a shite tv show?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I agree with Dave.

 

Me too!

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Also, this whole Wonga/Cisse thing, the main thing that stands out for me isn't the debate about if Cisse is right to do what hes doing or not, it's our clubs total incompitance at handling it all, the Wonga deal is worth approximately next to fuck all compared to actually remaining in the permier league, really don't see why we wouldn't at least try and negotiate with Wonga a smaller deal in exchange for Cisse to have an opt out, we're going into this season with a Strike force consisting of Cisse, Gouffran, an old cripple in Shola and a small child in Campbell. At this point in time, we need him more than we need Wonga.

 

Maybe we are doing that? We haven't sold him yet, so something is happening behind the scenes.

[Swissmag]

I'd be very interested to see the opinions if another player came out in support of Cisse's stance; I think a lot of this vitriol is just an excuse for people to moan about religion and Muslims in particular. He's entitled to his view on Wonga. If he simply wants to leave then he'd have put in a transfer request before now.

 

very good post

[Guest bimpy474]

I'd be very interested to see the opinions if another player came out in support of Cisse's stance; I think a lot of this vitriol is just an excuse for people to moan about religion and Muslims in particular. He's entitled to his view on Wonga. If he simply wants to leave then he'd have put in a transfer request before now.

 

Aye, the transfer request thing. I don't get why Bimpy, TT etc seem to think his ulterior motive is to force a move. People have done it many times without needing to bring their religion into it

 

Oi, i dont think he has an ulterior motive at all, and i've never said such a thing. I think he wants to play for us, i just dont agree with why he isn't at the moment.

[Guest reefatoon]

It's all a big conspiracy. The club have asked him to do this, only for it to be resolved just before the season starts, and having him back will be like a new signing, so no need to sign anyone. Those crafty little buggers.

[Zero]

I think it is an obligation that you have to work by wearing the uniform required, because you are paid. Simply as that.

If you have any personal reasons and refuse to do so, normally you should be sacked.  In football world we don't have this option, so the only options are to sell, or stop paying his wages till his contract expires.

 

To be honest, if Cisse really think it's fucking sinful to wear the wonga shirt, he should hand in transfer request. And I sincerely hope he does so.  I would be fucking disappointed if he agrees to back down for better monetary returns. Cunt in the highest order if that happens.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I think it is an obligation that you have to work by wearing the uniform required, because you are paid. Simply as that.

If you have any personal reasons and refuse to do so, normally you should be sacked.  In football world we don't have this option, so the only options are to sell, or stop paying his wages till his contract expires.

 

To be honest, if Cisse really think it's fucking sinful to wear the wonga shirt, he should hand in transfer request. And I sincerely hope he does so.  I would be fucking disappointed if he agrees to back down for better monetary returns. Cunt in the highest order if that happens.

 

What if he backs down with the same monetary returns? How do we know it's anything to do with money?

 

Also, in a normal job it's far from as simple as sacking someone who makes a stand on religious grounds.

[Guest bimpy474]

I think it is an obligation that you have to work by wearing the uniform required, because you are paid. Simply as that.

If you have any personal reasons and refuse to do so, normally you should be sacked.  In football world we don't have this option, so the only options are to sell, or stop paying his wages till his contract expires.

 

To be honest, if Cisse really think it's fucking sinful to wear the wonga shirt, he should hand in transfer request. And I sincerely hope he does so.  I would be fucking disappointed if he agrees to back down for better monetary returns. Cunt in the highest order if that happens.

 

What if he backs down with the same monetary returns? How do we know it's anything to do with money?

 

Also, in a normal job it's far from as simple as sacking someone who makes a stand on religious grounds.

 

I think what Zero was saying was, if say he signs a new contract and then wears the shirt, that would be a shite thing to do with his stance in the first place.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I think it is an obligation that you have to work by wearing the uniform required, because you are paid. Simply as that.

If you have any personal reasons and refuse to do so, normally you should be sacked.  In football world we don't have this option, so the only options are to sell, or stop paying his wages till his contract expires.

 

To be honest, if Cisse really think it's fucking sinful to wear the wonga shirt, he should hand in transfer request. And I sincerely hope he does so.  I would be fucking disappointed if he agrees to back down for better monetary returns. Cunt in the highest order if that happens.

 

What if he backs down with the same monetary returns? How do we know it's anything to do with money?

 

Also, in a normal job it's far from as simple as sacking someone who makes a stand on religious grounds.

 

I think what Zero was saying was, if say he signs a new contract and then wears the shirt, that would be a shite thing to do with his stance in the first place.

 

OK, but is there any sign that it would happen, or that it's even part of his thinking?

[Guest bimpy474]

I think it is an obligation that you have to work by wearing the uniform required, because you are paid. Simply as that.

If you have any personal reasons and refuse to do so, normally you should be sacked.  In football world we don't have this option, so the only options are to sell, or stop paying his wages till his contract expires.

 

To be honest, if Cisse really think it's fucking sinful to wear the wonga shirt, he should hand in transfer request. And I sincerely hope he does so.  I would be fucking disappointed if he agrees to back down for better monetary returns. Cunt in the highest order if that happens.

 

What if he backs down with the same monetary returns? How do we know it's anything to do with money?

 

Also, in a normal job it's far from as simple as sacking someone who makes a stand on religious grounds.

 

I think what Zero was saying was, if say he signs a new contract and then wears the shirt, that would be a shite thing to do with his stance in the first place.

 

OK, but is there any sign that it would happen, or that it's even part of his thinking?

 

Dont think so, it's just one of the rumours doing the rounds.

[Hanshithispantz]

I think it is an obligation that you have to work by wearing the uniform required, because you are paid. Simply as that.

If you have any personal reasons and refuse to do so, normally you should be sacked.  In football world we don't have this option, so the only options are to sell, or stop paying his wages till his contract expires.

 

To be honest, if Cisse really think it's fucking sinful to wear the wonga shirt, he should hand in transfer request. And I sincerely hope he does so.  I would be fucking disappointed if he agrees to back down for better monetary returns. Cunt in the highest order if that happens.

Not a chance you could sack someone for refusing to champion a sponsor that went against their religious beliefs in the real world like

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I think it is an obligation that you have to work by wearing the uniform required, because you are paid. Simply as that.

If you have any personal reasons and refuse to do so, normally you should be sacked.  In football world we don't have this option, so the only options are to sell, or stop paying his wages till his contract expires.

 

To be honest, if Cisse really think it's fucking sinful to wear the wonga shirt, he should hand in transfer request. And I sincerely hope he does so.  I would be fucking disappointed if he agrees to back down for better monetary returns. Cunt in the highest order if that happens.

 

What if he backs down with the same monetary returns? How do we know it's anything to do with money?

 

Also, in a normal job it's far from as simple as sacking someone who makes a stand on religious grounds.

 

I think what Zero was saying was, if say he signs a new contract and then wears the shirt, that would be a shite thing to do with his stance in the first place.

 

OK, but is there any sign that it would happen, or that it's even part of his thinking?

 

Dont think so, it's just one of the rumours doing the rounds.

 

I guess that's fine, I just find people jumping to the conclusion that he's trying to benefit personally from this to be a bit weird, and probably unfair.

[Guest bimpy474]

I think it is an obligation that you have to work by wearing the uniform required, because you are paid. Simply as that.

If you have any personal reasons and refuse to do so, normally you should be sacked.  In football world we don't have this option, so the only options are to sell, or stop paying his wages till his contract expires.

 

To be honest, if Cisse really think it's fucking sinful to wear the wonga shirt, he should hand in transfer request. And I sincerely hope he does so.  I would be fucking disappointed if he agrees to back down for better monetary returns. Cunt in the highest order if that happens.

 

What if he backs down with the same monetary returns? How do we know it's anything to do with money?

 

Also, in a normal job it's far from as simple as sacking someone who makes a stand on religious grounds.

 

I think what Zero was saying was, if say he signs a new contract and then wears the shirt, that would be a shite thing to do with his stance in the first place.

 

OK, but is there any sign that it would happen, or that it's even part of his thinking?

 

Dont think so, it's just one of the rumours doing the rounds.

 

I guess that's fine, I just find people jumping to the conclusion that he's trying to benefit personally from this to be a bit weird, and probably unfair.

 

True, i think it's as it is. He objects, the arguments on here are mainly about religion and the rights and wrongs of cherry picking, his right to do what he feels is right or wrong etc.

 

Whatever your view, it's ridiculous that they can't come to an answer, be it a plain or charity sponsored shirt. Or just transfer list him if that means he wont play again, at least we know where it all stood.

[Zero]

Ian, I am not having a dig on Cisse. I sincerely hope he get what he wants, either wearing a charity shirt, leave the club, or even back down for nothing (which I personally don't think is possible but you suggested this so...). I just don't want to support a player who use religious belief as a tool to bargain for more money.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Ian, I am not having a dig on Cisse. I sincerely hope he get what he wants, either wearing a charity shirt, leave the club, or even back down for nothing (which I personally don't think is possible but you suggested this so...). I just don't want to support a player who use religious belief as a tool to bargain for more money.

 

I don't either, but my point is - why are you even thinking he's bargaining for more money?

[Interpolic]

Ian, I am not having a dig on Cisse. I sincerely hope he get what he wants, either wearing a charity shirt, leave the club, or even back down for nothing (which I personally don't think is possible but you suggested this so...). I just don't want to support a player who use religious belief as a tool to bargain for more money.

 

I don't either, but my point is - why are you even thinking he's bargaining for more money?

 

He lost all of his money at the casino and needs more money.

[Zero]

I think it is an obligation that you have to work by wearing the uniform required, because you are paid. Simply as that.

If you have any personal reasons and refuse to do so, normally you should be sacked.  In football world we don't have this option, so the only options are to sell, or stop paying his wages till his contract expires.

 

To be honest, if Cisse really think it's f***ing sinful to wear the wonga shirt, he should hand in transfer request. And I sincerely hope he does so.  I would be f***ing disappointed if he agrees to back down for better monetary returns. c*** in the highest order if that happens.

Not a chance you could sack someone for refusing to champion a sponsor that went against their religious beliefs in the real world like

 

Nah, say like you are a flight attendant but you refuse to wear the uniform on plane because of whatever personal reasons.  This is definitely sack-able. 

[Zero]

Ian, I am not having a dig on Cisse. I sincerely hope he get what he wants, either wearing a charity shirt, leave the club, or even back down for nothing (which I personally don't think is possible but you suggested this so...). I just don't want to support a player who use religious belief as a tool to bargain for more money.

 

I don't either, but my point is - why are you even thinking he's bargaining for more money?

 

You can't exclude this possibilities either, right?

 

To be honest it is the best timing for him to do the trick - our hands are fucking tied.  Ameobi starting for the coming year, we are even begging the likes of Gomis and Bent to join us ---this is the express line to championship.

 

The timing cannot be any better for him / any worse for us.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Ian, I am not having a dig on Cisse. I sincerely hope he get what he wants, either wearing a charity shirt, leave the club, or even back down for nothing (which I personally don't think is possible but you suggested this so...). I just don't want to support a player who use religious belief as a tool to bargain for more money.

 

I don't either, but my point is - why are you even thinking he's bargaining for more money?

 

You can't exclude this possibilities either, right?

 

To be honest it is the best timing for him to do the trick - our hands are fucking tied.  Ameobi starting for the coming year, we are even begging the likes of Gomis and Bent to join us ---this is the express line to championship.

 

The timing cannot be any better for him / any worse for us.

 

No, I can't say it's definitely not for money obviously, there's a theoretical chance it might be. I just don't think that's enough to be debating it.

 

I agree it needs to be resolved ASAP though.