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From what I've read about his approach to football he prefers to play a traditional 442 and is big on discipline above all else. Doesn't sound like a modern day football manager capable of managing a top flight side at all. I can't wait to see how his millionaire prima donnas will react to his management style, and in turn how their board and owner will react once they realise a number of their high earners are completely overlooked while they run down their contract/sold for a huge loss. I would love to know what Short's thinking was behind this appointment.

 

He sounds like a more controversial version of Souness when you put it that way.

 

Basically Souness. With no top flight experience. And less pedigree. And a Nazi.

[Unbelievable]

http://www.rokerreport.com/2013/4/2/4170706/top-swindon-site-gives-us-the-full-lowdown-on-di-canio

 

Some quotes:

 

Recruitment is perhaps his biggest area of weakness. He signed 38 players at Swindon, of which 10 had their contracts paid up early as they were soon proved unsuitable to Di Canio's methods or just not up to playing in the lower reaches of the Football League. It was also a revolving door with 26 departing, including 12 of his own permanent signings leaving within 18 months.

 

In summary Paolo's tactics have been:

442

One full back to push, one to cover.

One inverted winger, one orthodox hugging the by-line

One out and out holder central midfielder, one who can create a little

Two centre forwards, both with pace and aggression. He doesn't seem to like a target man or someone who drops too deep. They need to contribute always - no place for a specialist finisher.

Centre backs need to play a bit but not massively - they are defenders, but no afraid to push central midfielders back into defensive roles.

His Town side were robust but not overly physical or big. They didn't dive or kick, crowd the ref or talk back - he did that.

Direct football, where possession is secondary to positioning. The ball is kept but only to create change. He doesn't like 'tippy-tappy football'

Drilled, drilled and drilled again - efficient, orthodox football

 

He can change games with a substitution, but he is also convicted that he can so expect half time subs - or even 21 mins for a 'keeper. However, he won't really change the system - and if he does, going on his time at Town, it doesn't work and doesn't seem planned or drilled for - oddly given his style.

 

With the average reign for a football manager soon to be counted in minutes, no appointment is a risk. Sunderland are without a win in 8 matches and something had to be done to ensure Premier League safety. The problem Mackems face is that Di Canio has started both the 2011/12 and 2012/13 seasons slowly after winning both opening games 3-0. How this translates into the final 7 league games and a relegation fight - something he's yet to be embroiled in as a manager - will be interesting viewing.

[Guest neesy111]

Just seen that press conference.  Absolute joke.

[Flip]

From what I've read about his approach to football he prefers to play a traditional 442 and is big on discipline above all else. Doesn't sound like a modern day football manager capable of managing a top flight side at all. I can't wait to see how his millionaire prima donnas will react to his management style, and in turn how their board and owner will react once they realise a number of their high earners are completely overlooked while they run down their contract/sold for a huge loss. I would love to know what Short's thinking was behind this appointment.

 

He sounds like a more controversial version of Souness when you put it that way.

 

Basically Souness. With no top flight experience. And less pedigree. And a Nazi.

 

You went to Harvard, you know it better than that.

[TK-421]

http://www.rokerreport.com/2013/4/2/4170706/top-swindon-site-gives-us-the-full-lowdown-on-di-canio

 

Some quotes:

 

In summary Paolo's tactics have been:

442

One full back to push, one to cover.

One inverted winger, one orthodox hugging the by-line

One out and out holder central midfielder, one who can create a little

Two centre forwards, both with pace and aggression. He doesn't seem to like a target man or someone who drops too deep. They need to contribute always - no place for a specialist finisher.

Centre backs need to play a bit but not massively - they are defenders, but no afraid to push central midfielders back into defensive roles.

His Town side were robust but not overly physical or big. They didn't dive or kick, crowd the ref or talk back - he did that.

Direct football, where possession is secondary to positioning. The ball is kept but only to create change. He doesn't like 'tippy-tappy football'

Drilled, drilled and drilled again - efficient, orthodox football

 

 

 

2 up top looking like they'll be Wickham and Graham then... both arguably 'target men', neither with any great pace... expect them to get stuck right in though.

[madras]

it's disturbing the way people will throw away everything they believe in, in order to protect something else, like the parent who denies their child can do any wrong despite what they witness.

 

we've seen it before to a lesser degree, liverpool fans defence of suarez and to an even lesser degree the defence on here of andy carroll (ie doesn't matter what he does providing he's playing well for us) but this seems to be on a differing scale and I'm not 100% sure many of our fans wouldn't have reacted in a similar manner.

 

disappointed but not at all surprised that a good few view things that way but a bit taken aback at how many. roles reveresed I wouldn't be going.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Has anyone got anything that shows how much Di Canio spent at Swindon comparative to other teams around them at the time?

 

I think the correct quantitative term is 'A f*** load'.

 

A more accurate quote from Swindon fan friend..

 

"More than the rest of the league put together x 2. Mainly on agent fees and wages. In terms of transfer fees probably c£500k in total."

 

"He'll need to refine his approach as his methods for L1 cannot work for Prem - slagging off players in public, no days off, heavy fitness focus, zero tolerance on drinking etc....Titus Bramble is not going to last a long time!"

[Big Geordie]

Yup - saw the press conference on Look North. High farce isn't the word. Assume that woman in the blue dress was the CE? Looks a bit of alreet (for a mackem!)

[Mick]

The fuss that this has kicked up wouldn't have happened if he'd taken a job down south.

[OzzieMandias]

it's disturbing the way people will throw away everything they believe in, in order to protect something else, like the parent who denies their child can do any wrong despite what they witness.

 

we've seen it before to a lesser degree, liverpool fans defence of suarez and to an even lesser degree the defence on here of andy carroll (ie doesn't matter what he does providing he's playing well for us) but this seems to be on a differing scale and I'm not 100% sure many of our fans wouldn't have reacted in a similar manner.

 

disappointed but not at all surprised that a good few view things that way but a bit taken aback at how many. roles reveresed I wouldn't be going.

 

I think it's quite clear from this thread that among our own ranks we've got a fair few nuggets who would have defended this appointment, had it been us who'd made it.

[Big Geordie]

The fuss that this has kicked up wouldn't have happened if he'd taken a job down south.

 

Reading fans did when he was linked with the job - apparently made the board quite aware di Canio wasn't wanted.

[Mick]

 

 

Reading fans did when he was linked with the job - apparently made the board quite aware di Canio wasn't wanted.

 

Fair enough, I just can't remember too much publicity for this in the past.

[OzzieMandias]

And at Swindon there was a trade union that had some sponsorship arrangement with the club that immediately withdrew from it when Benito di Canio was appointed.

[Big Geordie]

 

 

Reading fans did when he was linked with the job - apparently made the board quite aware di Canio wasn't wanted.

 

Fair enough, I just can't remember too much publicity for this in the past.

 

To be fair, Reading aren't as big news as the mackems are.

[Cajun]

Just been on Channel 4, Mackem lass in supporters club saying as long as he beats Newcastle he can be or do what he wants because that is their season. They really are so small time

[Guest Vinkent]

http://www.rokerreport.com/2013/4/2/4170706/top-swindon-site-gives-us-the-full-lowdown-on-di-canio

 

 

In summary Paolo's tactics have been:

442

 

 

[Dokko]

442 means Wickham and Graham upfront. Can't see that working out too well.

[Keefaz]

Is he actually any cop as a manager?

[NG32]

it's disturbing the way people will throw away everything they believe in, in order to protect something else, like the parent who denies their child can do any wrong despite what they witness.

 

we've seen it before to a lesser degree, liverpool fans defence of suarez and to an even lesser degree the defence on here of andy carroll (ie doesn't matter what he does providing he's playing well for us) but this seems to be on a differing scale and I'm not 100% sure many of our fans wouldn't have reacted in a similar manner.

 

disappointed but not at all surprised that a good few view things that way but a bit taken aback at how many. roles reveresed I wouldn't be going.

 

I think it's quite clear from this thread that among our own ranks we've got a fair few nuggets who would have defended this appointment, had it been us who'd made it.

 

 

 

[Flip]

it's disturbing the way people will throw away everything they believe in, in order to protect something else, like the parent who denies their child can do any wrong despite what they witness.

 

we've seen it before to a lesser degree, liverpool fans defence of suarez and to an even lesser degree the defence on here of andy carroll (ie doesn't matter what he does providing he's playing well for us) but this seems to be on a differing scale and I'm not 100% sure many of our fans wouldn't have reacted in a similar manner.

 

disappointed but not at all surprised that a good few view things that way but a bit taken aback at how many. roles reveresed I wouldn't be going.

 

I think it's quite clear from this thread that among our own ranks we've got a fair few nuggets who would have defended this appointment, had it been us who'd made it.

 

Honestly? If you can redirect me to those who have suggested this then fair enough, but I don't believe for a second you will. No one is defending the appointment, I think a vast majority if not 99% of this thread all find it hilarious that they've gone for him and expect him to fail miserably. What other including me have suggested is that his political views have been blown up out of proportion and people are getting way to sensitive. (just for the hyperbole sake we shouldn't allow Mike in here, he is Obama's brother and the US is known for going against human rights on a fair amount of occasions)

 

Some people need to visit the world a bit, see how it works. Life is rougher than a mans view on some ideology. He isn't criminal, he's just a crazy ignorant man or a crazy exhibionist who doesn't know what he says. To call people nuggets for having a broader perspective on the world and voicing their opinion is exactly what a fascist would do btw.

 

Let him fail, let us laugh at him for failing and the mackems for appointing him. But let's not pretend like that if he had been here and succeeded we would still not be supporting our club. All this journalism and going back to his views is only causing more pressure on them, but let's not act like we are the worlds most perfect club in sense of signing people who represent our club.

 

EDIT:

 

No one is defending what he stands for, many are just questioning the importance relative to his job. Some are labelling him like he's some sort of criminal ffs.

[Hanshithispantz]

it's disturbing the way people will throw away everything they believe in, in order to protect something else, like the parent who denies their child can do any wrong despite what they witness.

 

we've seen it before to a lesser degree, liverpool fans defence of suarez and to an even lesser degree the defence on here of andy carroll (ie doesn't matter what he does providing he's playing well for us) but this seems to be on a differing scale and I'm not 100% sure many of our fans wouldn't have reacted in a similar manner.

 

disappointed but not at all surprised that a good few view things that way but a bit taken aback at how many. roles reveresed I wouldn't be going.

 

I think it's quite clear from this thread that among our own ranks we've got a fair few nuggets who would have defended this appointment, had it been us who'd made it.

There is a difference though in people defending the appointment and people defending the man and what he stands for. A lot of mackems seem to be defending the latter which is just fucking weird.

 

Ultimately if he does well at the club and keeps his personal views private this will all be forgotten about by next season imo. He's just a daft bloke with silly opinions, not a tyrant.

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

I noticed he's already appointed the people who do all the actual coaching. Quick.

[OzzieMandias]

it's disturbing the way people will throw away everything they believe in, in order to protect something else, like the parent who denies their child can do any wrong despite what they witness.

 

we've seen it before to a lesser degree, liverpool fans defence of suarez and to an even lesser degree the defence on here of andy carroll (ie doesn't matter what he does providing he's playing well for us) but this seems to be on a differing scale and I'm not 100% sure many of our fans wouldn't have reacted in a similar manner.

 

disappointed but not at all surprised that a good few view things that way but a bit taken aback at how many. roles reveresed I wouldn't be going.

 

I think it's quite clear from this thread that among our own ranks we've got a fair few nuggets who would have defended this appointment, had it been us who'd made it.

There is a difference though in people defending the appointment and people defending the man and what he stands for. A lot of mackems seem to be defending the latter which is just fucking weird.

 

Ultimately if he does well at the club and keeps his personal views private this will all be forgotten about by next season imo. He's just a daft bloke with silly opinions, not a tyrant.

 

I dunno. Seems to me that what the appointment, and SAFC's defence of it, will do is say, "It's fine to appoint someone who calls himself a fascist and does Nazi salutes in public." It validates the idea of fascism, says it's no big deal. And the next time something like this becomes an issue, the mackem example will be there to say it's all right. And it's not.

[Benwell Lad]

it's disturbing the way people will throw away everything they believe in, in order to protect something else, like the parent who denies their child can do any wrong despite what they witness.

 

we've seen it before to a lesser degree, liverpool fans defence of suarez and to an even lesser degree the defence on here of andy carroll (ie doesn't matter what he does providing he's playing well for us) but this seems to be on a differing scale and I'm not 100% sure many of our fans wouldn't have reacted in a similar manner.

 

disappointed but not at all surprised that a good few view things that way but a bit taken aback at how many. roles reveresed I wouldn't be going.

 

I think it's quite clear from this thread that among our own ranks we've got a fair few nuggets who would have defended this appointment, had it been us who'd made it.

There is a difference though in people defending the appointment and people defending the man and what he stands for. A lot of mackems seem to be defending the latter which is just fucking weird.

Ultimately if he does well at the club and keeps his personal views private this will all be forgotten about by next season imo. He's just a daft bloke with silly opinions, not a tyrant.

 

Even for fickle macums it's quite surprising how many of them have been prepared to slag off their own heritage, turn on "legends" like Gary Bennett and instantly forget their love for Marty, just to stand up for a fourth division nutcase.

[Flip]

it's disturbing the way people will throw away everything they believe in, in order to protect something else, like the parent who denies their child can do any wrong despite what they witness.

 

we've seen it before to a lesser degree, liverpool fans defence of suarez and to an even lesser degree the defence on here of andy carroll (ie doesn't matter what he does providing he's playing well for us) but this seems to be on a differing scale and I'm not 100% sure many of our fans wouldn't have reacted in a similar manner.

 

disappointed but not at all surprised that a good few view things that way but a bit taken aback at how many. roles reveresed I wouldn't be going.

 

I think it's quite clear from this thread that among our own ranks we've got a fair few nuggets who would have defended this appointment, had it been us who'd made it.

There is a difference though in people defending the appointment and people defending the man and what he stands for. A lot of mackems seem to be defending the latter which is just f***ing weird.

 

Ultimately if he does well at the club and keeps his personal views private this will all be forgotten about by next season imo. He's just a daft bloke with silly opinions, not a tyrant.