madras Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 surely there's no way celtic would vote yes, they're fans would revolt celtic will vote yes if they know the vote will be no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 surely there's no way celtic would vote yes, they're fans would revolt Celtic fans are pretty much always revolting. Fact of life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 surely there's no way celtic would vote yes, they're fans would revolt The Celtic board would love to vote to keep rangers in the league. Any rule changes regarding the voting structure and distribution of prize money require an 11-1 majority so basically the old firm can maintain the status quo by teaming up and vetoing any changes. Without rangers in the league everything's up for renegotiation. Their fans would mount a fucking insurrection though. If it looks like there will already be enough votes from other clubs to keep rangers out then Celtic will vote to keep them out too just to appease their fans as their vote would no longer matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 surely there's no way celtic would vote yes, they're fans would revolt The Celtic board would love to vote to keep rangers in the league. Any rule changes regarding the voting structure and distribution of prize money require an 11-1 majority so basically the old firm can maintain the status quo by teaming up and vetoing any changes. Without rangers in the league everything's up for renegotiation. Their fans would mount a f***ing insurrection though. If it looks like there will already be enough votes from other clubs to keep rangers out then Celtic will vote to keep them out too just to appease their fans as their vote would no longer matter. i see it the other way round, if celtic see the vote being no, they'll vote yes and their fans will love taking the piss in a condescending manner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Which teams have yet to vote? All of them So far hearts, utd and Aberdeen have said they'll vote no. Rangers and killie will vote yes, Motherwell will let their fans decide leaving hibs, st mirren, st Johnstone, Ross county , inverness and Celtic. so rangers do get a vote? they should let murderers and rapists have a say in whether they're sentenced or not and all, makes as much sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Which teams have yet to vote? All of them So far hearts, utd and Aberdeen have said they'll vote no. Rangers and killie will vote yes, Motherwell will let their fans decide leaving hibs, st mirren, st Johnstone, Ross county , inverness and Celtic. so rangers do get a vote? they should let murderers and rapists have a say in whether they're sentenced or not and all, makes as much sense Give them a seat on the Jury, i like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Which teams have yet to vote? All of them So far hearts, utd and Aberdeen have said they'll vote no. Rangers and killie will vote yes, Motherwell will let their fans decide leaving hibs, st mirren, st Johnstone, Ross county , inverness and Celtic. so rangers do get a vote? they should let murderers and rapists have a say in whether they're sentenced or not and all, makes as much sense The vote is for SPL shareholders, old Rangers (rip or rather rih) are in administration and still exist (sort of) the administrators hold the vote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Which teams have yet to vote? All of them So far hearts, utd and Aberdeen have said they'll vote no. Rangers and killie will vote yes, Motherwell will let their fans decide leaving hibs, st mirren, st Johnstone, Ross county , inverness and Celtic. so rangers do get a vote? they should let murderers and rapists have a say in whether they're sentenced or not and all, makes as much sense The vote is for SPL shareholders, old Rangers (rip or rather rih) are in administration and still exist (sort of) the administrators hold the vote. Knowing Duff & Phelps they'll vote no for the newco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo143/magoo1982/mongol1.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Crazy talk that the chairman is looking to take the players to court to honour there old contracts at rangers as he said he has transferred them to the new company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Crazy talk that the chairman is looking to take the players to court to honour there old contracts at rangers as he said he has transferred them to the new company. So not only are they trying to rewrite the rules of Scottish football, but they're trying to change employment law too McCabe, Aluko and 11 others have apparently said they don't want to be TUPE'd across to the newco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Genocide is the only answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Aside from the players issue will it not actually be good for Rangers and Scottish football if they start in D3? Allows the smaller clubs to benefit from interest/gate receipts and I can't imagine they'll lose out that much in terms of prize money and they'll probably still get televised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 The SFA have confirmed that they want to restructure Scottish football. Also Motherwell have pretty much begged their supporters to let them vote yes to allow Rangers back in. Aberdeen have said they only need to sell an additional 300 season tickets to make up for what Rangers bring to the club. Also on a Rangers forum some guy claims to have ITK info from a member of the SPL. Apparently Sky have confirmed they will stagy with the SPL (though they haven't confirmed if they will insist on a reduced fee) if Rangers are voted out of the league. They have also been meeting over the last few days in order to discuss what happens next, most clubs want to say no but a few of them are still afraid of going into administration if Sky do opt out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 The SFA have confirmed that they want to restructure Scottish football. Also Motherwell have pretty much begged their supporters to let them vote yes to allow Rangers back in. Aberdeen have said they only need to sell an additional 300 season tickets to make up for what Rangers bring to the club. Also on a Rangers forum some guy claims to have ITK info from a member of the SPL. Apparently Sky have confirmed they will stagy with the SPL (though they haven't confirmed if they will insist on a reduced fee) if Rangers are voted out of the league. They have also been meeting over the last few days in order to discuss what happens next, most clubs want to say no but a few of them are still afraid of going into administration if Sky do opt out. catch 22, they're fans will revolt if they vote for Rangers to come straight back in but how interested are sky without 4 old firm match's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Aside from the players issue will it not actually be good for Rangers and Scottish football if they start in D3? Allows the smaller clubs to benefit from interest/gate receipts and I can't imagine they'll lose out that much in terms of prize money and they'll probably still get televised. I would have thought it would allow other clubs to compete, Celtic would feel the need to try as hard either and will slack off as time goes on. If a couple of clubs can do well in the Champions league qualifying rounds or reach maybe the group stages of the Europa league then it could well help them compete as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 The SFA have confirmed that they want to restructure Scottish football. Also Motherwell have pretty much begged their supporters to let them vote yes to allow Rangers back in. Aberdeen have said they only need to sell an additional 300 season tickets to make up for what Rangers bring to the club. Also on a Rangers forum some guy claims to have ITK info from a member of the SPL. Apparently Sky have confirmed they will stagy with the SPL (though they haven't confirmed if they will insist on a reduced fee) if Rangers are voted out of the league. They have also been meeting over the last few days in order to discuss what happens next, most clubs want to say no but a few of them are still afraid of going into administration if Sky do opt out. catch 22, they're fans will revolt if they vote for Rangers to come straight back in but how interested are sky without 4 old firm match's The SFA want to bring back the Glasgow cup between the two teams, surely Sky (or someone else) will be offered that for about the price of what goes missing out of the SPL TV deal. Also if they aren't voted in then surely the likes of Sky will be interested in SFA league games, surely the SFA will take that and distribute the money to all their members who are in danger of going bust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 The SFA have confirmed that they want to restructure Scottish football. Also Motherwell have pretty much begged their supporters to let them vote yes to allow Rangers back in. Aberdeen have said they only need to sell an additional 300 season tickets to make up for what Rangers bring to the club. Also on a Rangers forum some guy claims to have ITK info from a member of the SPL. Apparently Sky have confirmed they will stagy with the SPL (though they haven't confirmed if they will insist on a reduced fee) if Rangers are voted out of the league. They have also been meeting over the last few days in order to discuss what happens next, most clubs want to say no but a few of them are still afraid of going into administration if Sky do opt out. catch 22, they're fans will revolt if they vote for Rangers to come straight back in but how interested are sky without 4 old firm match's The SFA want to bring back the Glasgow cup between the two teams, surely Sky (or someone else) will be offered that for about the price of what goes missing out of the SPL TV deal. Also if they aren't voted in then surely the likes of Sky will be interested in SFA league games, surely the SFA will take that and distribute the money to all their members who are in danger of going bust. some makey uppy piece of shit trophy is not going to compare to 4 old firms with the league being decided in those match's (normally) and theres the other point, why would Rangers or Celtic agree to a deal like that when they could rightly say why should anyone else get the cash when its us that earned it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 The SFA have confirmed that they want to restructure Scottish football. Also Motherwell have pretty much begged their supporters to let them vote yes to allow Rangers back in. Aberdeen have said they only need to sell an additional 300 season tickets to make up for what Rangers bring to the club. Also on a Rangers forum some guy claims to have ITK info from a member of the SPL. Apparently Sky have confirmed they will stagy with the SPL (though they haven't confirmed if they will insist on a reduced fee) if Rangers are voted out of the league. They have also been meeting over the last few days in order to discuss what happens next, most clubs want to say no but a few of them are still afraid of going into administration if Sky do opt out. catch 22, they're fans will revolt if they vote for Rangers to come straight back in but how interested are sky without 4 old firm match's The SFA want to bring back the Glasgow cup between the two teams, surely Sky (or someone else) will be offered that for about the price of what goes missing out of the SPL TV deal. Also if they aren't voted in then surely the likes of Sky will be interested in SFA league games, surely the SFA will take that and distribute the money to all their members who are in danger of going bust. some makey uppy piece of shit trophy is not going to compare to 4 old firms with the league being decided in those match's (normally) and theres the other point, why would Rangers or Celtic agree to a deal like that when they could rightly say why should anyone else get the cash when its us that earned it Celtic would probably be given their share of the money, the SFA though could turnaround to Rangers and say we are taking that as part of your punishment and spread it out, the SFA have Rangers bent over backwards though because they can still reject their application for membership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 The SFA have confirmed that they want to restructure Scottish football. Also Motherwell have pretty much begged their supporters to let them vote yes to allow Rangers back in. Aberdeen have said they only need to sell an additional 300 season tickets to make up for what Rangers bring to the club. Also on a Rangers forum some guy claims to have ITK info from a member of the SPL. Apparently Sky have confirmed they will stagy with the SPL (though they haven't confirmed if they will insist on a reduced fee) if Rangers are voted out of the league. They have also been meeting over the last few days in order to discuss what happens next, most clubs want to say no but a few of them are still afraid of going into administration if Sky do opt out. catch 22, they're fans will revolt if they vote for Rangers to come straight back in but how interested are sky without 4 old firm match's The SFA want to bring back the Glasgow cup between the two teams, surely Sky (or someone else) will be offered that for about the price of what goes missing out of the SPL TV deal. Also if they aren't voted in then surely the likes of Sky will be interested in SFA league games, surely the SFA will take that and distribute the money to all their members who are in danger of going bust. some makey uppy piece of shit trophy is not going to compare to 4 old firms with the league being decided in those match's (normally) and theres the other point, why would Rangers or Celtic agree to a deal like that when they could rightly say why should anyone else get the cash when its us that earned it Celtic would probably be given their share of the money, the SFA though could turnaround to Rangers and say we are taking that as part of your punishment and spread it out, the SFA have Rangers bent over backwards though because they can still reject their application for membership. or alternatively Rangers could just say fuck you and see how you do without us wouldn't put it past them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 The SFA have confirmed that they want to restructure Scottish football. Also Motherwell have pretty much begged their supporters to let them vote yes to allow Rangers back in. Aberdeen have said they only need to sell an additional 300 season tickets to make up for what Rangers bring to the club. Also on a Rangers forum some guy claims to have ITK info from a member of the SPL. Apparently Sky have confirmed they will stagy with the SPL (though they haven't confirmed if they will insist on a reduced fee) if Rangers are voted out of the league. They have also been meeting over the last few days in order to discuss what happens next, most clubs want to say no but a few of them are still afraid of going into administration if Sky do opt out. catch 22, they're fans will revolt if they vote for Rangers to come straight back in but how interested are sky without 4 old firm match's The SFA want to bring back the Glasgow cup between the two teams, surely Sky (or someone else) will be offered that for about the price of what goes missing out of the SPL TV deal. Also if they aren't voted in then surely the likes of Sky will be interested in SFA league games, surely the SFA will take that and distribute the money to all their members who are in danger of going bust. some makey uppy piece of shit trophy is not going to compare to 4 old firms with the league being decided in those match's (normally) and theres the other point, why would Rangers or Celtic agree to a deal like that when they could rightly say why should anyone else get the cash when its us that earned it Celtic would probably be given their share of the money, the SFA though could turnaround to Rangers and say we are taking that as part of your punishment and spread it out, the SFA have Rangers bent over backwards though because they can still reject their application for membership. or alternatively Rangers could just say fuck you and see how you do without us wouldn't put it past them Rangers need the SFA more than the SFA need Rangers. Without the SFA Rangers cannot play football at all, not even friendly or exhibition matches. How will Rangers be able to run if they don't have any games to play with players (who they are currently taking legal action against some in order to make them stay) with high wages to pay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Aside from the players issue will it not actually be good for Rangers and Scottish football if they start in D3? Allows the smaller clubs to benefit from interest/gate receipts and I can't imagine they'll lose out that much in terms of prize money and they'll probably still get televised. I would have thought it would allow other clubs to compete, Celtic would feel the need to try as hard either and will slack off as time goes on. If a couple of clubs can do well in the Champions league qualifying rounds or reach maybe the group stages of the Europa league then it could well help them compete as well. When was the last time any team done well in Europe outwith Rangers and celtic? Players hardly want to come to the spl to play for Rangers and celtic nevermind the likes of Motherwell, hearts etc. the championship is more attractive to most players than a shit Scottish league with one championship qualifying round so nobody would come here. The thing this is the long game they have to play. As for teams in the Champions League or Europa League, most of them will come across similar stature or smaller stature clubs in the qualifying rounds like some random Macedonian side, theirs every chance they can get to the group stages which would bring in massive amounts of money for those clubs. The rest is the long game. If theirs more cubs that can compete against Celtic then in future theirs going to be more fans of other clubs instead of just Celtic and Rangers fans. This should result in more people attending matches who otherwise wouldn't. If other clubs can compete then you will see the local kids starting to play football more and taking more of an interest, this should result in more kids coming through the academy systems thus helping clubs and and also helping the Scottish national team. Your right in that most players would prefer to go to the Championship than the SPL, but to honest thats the case now and Celtic and the other SPL clubs shouldn't really be targeting those players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 SunSport Now @SunSportNow Rangers players Steven Naismith and Steven Whittaker have rejected a transfer to the newco Rangers, their lawyers have said in a statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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