AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 if playing in europe ever becomes an excuse, he should be sacked! Less preparation time...ok, but we mostly play squad and young players + players suspended in the PL. It should or could be an advantage. It has nothing do to with our or his clueless approach! Obviously it's a factor, you can't prepare for two games at once, no matter who is going to be on the pitch on the night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 if playing in europe ever becomes an excuse, he should be sacked! Less preparation time...ok, but we mostly play squad and young players + players suspended in the PL. It should or could be an advantage. It has nothing do to with our or his clueless approach! Obviously it's a factor, you can't prepare for two games at once, no matter who is going to be on the pitch on the night. I would say it depends on how you prepare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 if playing in europe ever becomes an excuse, he should be sacked! Less preparation time...ok, but we mostly play squad and young players + players suspended in the PL. It should or could be an advantage. It has nothing do to with our or his clueless approach! Obviously it's a factor, you can't prepare for two games at once, no matter who is going to be on the pitch on the night. I would say it depends on how you prepare. That's a bit too vague to argue with, but I can see how it would be much more difficult to work on your approach to a PL game if you're playing a game in Europe in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Other teams can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 if playing in europe ever becomes an excuse, he should be sacked! Less preparation time...ok, but we mostly play squad and young players + players suspended in the PL. It should or could be an advantage. It has nothing do to with our or his clueless approach! Obviously it's a factor, you can't prepare for two games at once, no matter who is going to be on the pitch on the night. I would say it depends on how you prepare. That's a bit too vague to argue with, but I can see how it would be much more difficult to work on your approach to a PL game if you're playing a game in Europe in the middle. Well, we've gone over this a few times before so I didn't want to get into it too deeply again but if our training was focused on how we play and not on stopping the opposition it would mitigate the preparation limitations somewhat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 if playing in europe ever becomes an excuse, he should be sacked! Less preparation time...ok, but we mostly play squad and young players + players suspended in the PL. It should or could be an advantage. It has nothing do to with our or his clueless approach! Obviously it's a factor, you can't prepare for two games at once, no matter who is going to be on the pitch on the night. I would say it depends on how you prepare. That's a bit too vague to argue with, but I can see how it would be much more difficult to work on your approach to a PL game if you're playing a game in Europe in the middle. Well, we've gone over this a few times before so I didn't want to get into it too deeply again but if our training was focused on how we play and not on stopping the opposition it would mitigate the preparation limitations somewhat. True, it would to a certain extent. I think training towards the specifics of the next game is a pretty ingrained thing though, at least it is to clubs and managers who don't have a clear and unchanging playing style (which is most of them). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 if playing in europe ever becomes an excuse, he should be sacked! Less preparation time...ok, but we mostly play squad and young players + players suspended in the PL. It should or could be an advantage. It has nothing do to with our or his clueless approach! Obviously it's a factor, you can't prepare for two games at once, no matter who is going to be on the pitch on the night. I would say it depends on how you prepare. That's a bit too vague to argue with, but I can see how it would be much more difficult to work on your approach to a PL game if you're playing a game in Europe in the middle. Well, we've gone over this a few times before so I didn't want to get into it too deeply again but if our training was focused on how we play and not on stopping the opposition it would mitigate the preparation limitations somewhat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I think the long and short of it is that if Pardew can't handle the fact that we have to play in europe then he's not cut out to manage a european side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I'd rather see 4 days of attacking training, and one day of defensive detailed to the next opposition. Then backing our attacking play to smash the fuck out of em, not bloody set up to stop them first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 That's the point though, isn't it? There's not time for 5 days of training before games when you're in Europe. And attacking training considers the opposition as well probably, unless you're Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 That's the point though, isn't it? There's not time for 5 days of training before games when you're in Europe. And attacking training considers the opposition as well probably, unless you're Barca. I know i was generalising what Pardew said in an interview once. I guess i just want the opposition to worry about us. Obviously when you play Man Utd, City, Chelsea you have to be set up properly. Just not to extent where you hope to nick a goal and hold on for dear life. Thats very Martin O'nil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Bimpy still got the new post bug? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Bimpy still got the new post bug? Aye, i've noticed it still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Bimpy still got the new post bug? Its not a bug (sort of), i've figured it out. Its when you edit a post, if you have spotted a error before another reply gets posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 The bloke seems to be losing the plot at high accelleration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Pardew or Bimpy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Pardew or Bimpy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BottledDog Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 That's the point though, isn't it? There's not time for 5 days of training before games when you're in Europe. And attacking training considers the opposition as well probably, unless you're Barca. I know i was generalising what Pardew said in an interview once. I guess i just want the opposition to worry about us. Obviously when you play Man Utd, City, Chelsea you have to be set up properly. Just not to extent where you hope to nick a goal and hold on for dear life. Thats very Martin O'nil Did he? I'd be interested to see the quote as I'd got it into my head that it was a jokey comment that came from JC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 That's the point though, isn't it? There's not time for 5 days of training before games when you're in Europe. And attacking training considers the opposition as well probably, unless you're Barca. I know i was generalising what Pardew said in an interview once. I guess i just want the opposition to worry about us. Obviously when you play Man Utd, City, Chelsea you have to be set up properly. Just not to extent where you hope to nick a goal and hold on for dear life. Thats very Martin O'nil Did he? For some reason I thought it was a jokey comment that came from JC. Not sure i'm remembering this right but i thought it was from the Radio Newcastle interview with him and JC, Pardew said he concentrates on the shape and defensive side Monday to Thursday and JC looks at the attacking side Friday's. Last season and before the Europa League disrupting. Not an excuse that by the way, piss poor one for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Well it's obviously working a treat. I can't remember us looking so terrible at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Actually, I can Bramble, Cacapa, Rozenhal, Boumsong, O'Brien etc etc etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Well it's obviously working a treat. I can't remember us looking so terrible at the back. Did last season, especially at the start. But it gets figured out as has been proven imo this season. I just want see the players in a system that suits them, and for them to be given some freedom to play. We would then see a decent bit of football as a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 That's the point though, isn't it? There's not time for 5 days of training before games when you're in Europe. And attacking training considers the opposition as well probably, unless you're Barca. I know i was generalising what Pardew said in an interview once. I guess i just want the opposition to worry about us. Obviously when you play Man Utd, City, Chelsea you have to be set up properly. Just not to extent where you hope to nick a goal and hold on for dear life. Thats very Martin O'nil Did he? I'd be interested to see the quote as I'd got it into my head that it was a jokey comment that came from JC. Not sure i'm remembering this right but i thought it was from the Radio Newcastle interview with him and JC, Pardew said he concentrates on the shape and defensive side Monday to Thursday and JC looks at the attacking side Friday's. Last season and before the Europa League disrupting. Not an excuse that by the way, piss poor one for me. You could be right. I'd be surprised if that has remained the training regime to this day though. Things change, and I'd guess that was at a point when we were just trying to get the basics sorted. /fuck only knows if they are even doing any training at the moment. It certainly doesn't show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 That's the point though, isn't it? There's not time for 5 days of training before games when you're in Europe. And attacking training considers the opposition as well probably, unless you're Barca. I know i was generalising what Pardew said in an interview once. I guess i just want the opposition to worry about us. Obviously when you play Man Utd, City, Chelsea you have to be set up properly. Just not to extent where you hope to nick a goal and hold on for dear life. Thats very Martin O'nil I guess we have to accept that we and most other teams will be doing a containing job on the top four when we play them, but West Ham? Swansea? Southampton? Maritimo? We were the 5th best team in the Barclays Premier League last year. Let's show the fucking opposition why Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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