Parky Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 If Debuchy's our only hope of beating teams of the standard of Wigan Athletic, we might as well pull out of the Europa League now. Without putting a downer on it, it will be a small miracle if we get past Benfica. On the upside the league will get full attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 If Debuchy's our only hope of beating teams of the standard of Wigan Athletic, we might as well pull out of the Europa League now. We have been doing fine without Debuchy in the Europa League daft lad. I know but apparently we couldn't possibly have beaten the worst home team in England without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 If Debuchy's our only hope of beating teams of the standard of Wigan Athletic, we might as well pull out of the Europa League now. Don't think we'll have to wait to long judging by the dross being served up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 If Debuchy's our only hope of beating teams of the standard of Wigan Athletic, we might as well pull out of the Europa League now. Shit like this sums you up, like. You're a knowledgeable lad, why be such an over dramatic little girl? No one has said this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Freak game, any team would have had their work cut out loosing two players like we did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Because we don't know how things would have panned out had Debuchy not gone off injured. We were the better team until then at which point we had to reshuffle the team twice in the first half. To me it looked like he had set us up right to start with. He's a poor manager but it's not like it's all his fault today by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think you can prepare to lose two full backs within the first half an hour. Debuchy was playing well, not that we looked capable of taking any advantage from that. We played some dangerous balls into the box like we have quite a bit since we brought our new signings in without getting anything from them. We don't know how to attack as a team and that's unacceptable at this level and costly for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 If Debuchy's our only hope of beating teams of the standard of Wigan Athletic, we might as well pull out of the Europa League now. Shit like this sums you up, like. You're a knowledgeable lad, why be such an over dramatic little girl? No one has said this. You said losing Debuchy was the reason we lost the foothold in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Next season will be interesting, that's for sure. Debate their significance as little or as much as you like; there surely can't possibly be as many excuses as there have been this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Because we don't know how things would have panned out had Debuchy not gone off injured. We were the better team until then at which point we had to reshuffle the team twice in the first half. To me it looked like he had set us up right to start with. He's a poor manager but it's not like it's all his fault today by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think you can prepare to lose two full backs within the first half an hour. Debuchy was playing well, not that we looked capable of taking any advantage from that. We played some dangerous balls into the box like we have quite a bit since we brought our new signings in without getting anything from them. We don't know how to attack as a team and that's unacceptable at this level and costly for us. I am not defending Pardew and I agree with your last sentence. I just don't subscribe to this 'it was all Pardew's fault today as it always is' thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I keep saying it but Pardew has won the lottery here with all these players he's been given. Next season there can be no excuses surely?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 If Debuchy's our only hope of beating teams of the standard of Wigan Athletic, we might as well pull out of the Europa League now. s*** like this sums you up, like. You're a knowledgeable lad, why be such an over dramatic little girl? No one has said this. What the hell are you complaining about, that was a perfectly logical post. Debuchy going off injured today has nothing to do with the whole entire s*** season we have had. Absolutely none, people need to understand that. Debuchy being injured today has f*** all to do with the other ten outfield professional footballers we had out there who couldn't f***ing make 2-3 passes without ballsing it up. None whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Because we don't know how things would have panned out had Debuchy not gone off injured. We were the better team until then at which point we had to reshuffle the team twice in the first half. To me it looked like he had set us up right to start with. He's a poor manager but it's not like it's all his fault today by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think you can prepare to lose two full backs within the first half an hour. Debuchy was playing well, not that we looked capable of taking any advantage from that. We played some dangerous balls into the box like we have quite a bit since we brought our new signings in without getting anything from them. We don't know how to attack as a team and that's unacceptable at this level and costly for us. I am not defending Pardew and I agree with your last sentence. I just don't subscribe to this 'it was all Pardew's fault today as it always is' thing. Did anybody say that? It's certainly his fault the way we play on a consistent basis. I do not understand this "WHAT DID HE DO WRONG TODAY??" stuff after every game. He doesn't just come to work on matchdays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Very unlucky today - missing our 4 best players, 2 fullbacks crocked within half an hour and still took 2 ridiculously bad decisions to beat us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 It remains to be seen whether the players Pardew has received are actually as world class as everyone claims. Have seen both brilliance and bollocks from Sissoko and YMB so far. Obviously I haven't seen as much French football as the clever cunts on here, but nevermind. Just seems as if some 'fans' were eager for a result like today so they could add it to their anti-Pards artillery. We weren't our best today, but the ref was absolutely woeful and we were without key players. Nay need for hissy fits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Very unlucky today - missing our 4 best players, 2 fullbacks crocked within half an hour and still took 2 ridiculously bad decisions to beat us. Yep and lost to the worst team in the league very unlucky we were Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 What, a hissy fit like calling people cunts and an embarrassment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 If Debuchy's our only hope of beating teams of the standard of Wigan Athletic, we might as well pull out of the Europa League now. Shit like this sums you up, like. You're a knowledgeable lad, why be such an over dramatic little girl? No one has said this. You said losing Debuchy was the reason we lost the foothold in the game. I did, and it was. I didn't say he was pivotal in our chances of beating Wigan. They targeted a player who was poor, and we went through further reshuffles. We weren't, at any point, out of the game because of it. Nor should we now be pulling out of the Europa League because of losing a player who'd never played in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 It remains to be seen whether the players Pardew has received are actually as world class as everyone claims. Have seen both brilliance and bollocks from Sissoko and YMB so far. Obviously I haven't seen as much French football as the clever c***s on here, but nevermind. Just seems as if some 'fans' were eager for a result like today so they could add it to their anti-Pards artillery. We weren't our best today, but the ref was absolutely woeful and we were without key players. Nay need for hissy fits. I will bet you 100 quid you will struggle to find 10 posters on here claiming any of our players to be world-class. They are certainly better than a few fucking points off a relegation spot though. You should be renamed Fooluwashola. People are not exactly pissing and moaning about another loss btw but the pathetic performance which is a regular theme with us. This is what people like you seem to be blind to. Oh noes we lost, must be Pardz fault again. Err, nope! Oh noes, another shitty performance.... Ah, refs fault. Debuchey going off man, would have won had he not went off. Ahh that fucking tackle man, lost because of that. We were not robbed today btw, our fucking defending throughout was abysmal and while we did deserve a point, I'd still have been grumpy with that given how we played and who we were playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 But for a second shocking referee decision, we'd have got a point today. A results that many of those complaining said they'd accept before the game. His much maligned subs changed the game in our favour. It was, however, a largely shite performance against a fresher team, who move the ball about well. It's probably our first truly 'bad' performance since Villa away. If you can't accept that a team will have bad games (especially on the back of a hard fought game three days previously), and feel it should cost a manager his job. Well, there's not much hope for you. Regardless of the result or performance, he'll be panned by the usual crowd. His much maligned subs changed the game in our favour. Fuck me, what a doylem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Btw, is the Europa League QF this season's 5th place finish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 QPR have more away points than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Btw, is the Europa League QF this season's 5th place finish? Yeah. Not sure whether we'd get an extra place or just take the 5th placed teams spot in the Europa if somehow we managed to win it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Nah Staying in the Premier League irregardless of the poor performances are good enough for some, low standards really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I know the overall play was poor, to say the least. But just so much went against us today. And I know this a massively over simplistic view but: - Debuchy's unlucky injury leading to that defensive shuffle didn't help - almost led directly to the goal. Haidara really didn't look ready to come on, thought he looked very suspect defensively while he was on. Way too much space to get that cross in. - The tackle, need I say more? With the way Wigan are set up, going down to ten men means a total change of system. More so than other sides. You know how it is with horror injuries, sometimes players react well and it adds a bit of impetus. Today went the other way and we went into our shells a bit. - And their goal just shouldn't of stood. Would be a very diffent mood on here if it was 1-1. I'm not a massive Pardew fan by any means, but today I don't want too be too harsh on him. Tbh, given the the manner in which the decisions went us I am pretty surprised with the outbursts on here. Although maybe I shouldn't be... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Btw, is the Europa League QF this season's 5th place finish? Yeah. Not sure whether we'd get an extra place or just take the 5th placed teams spot in the Europa if somehow we managed to win it. Errr, woosh I think.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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