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you think with the little crisis we are falling in, Pardew is still going to persist in starting Ba and Cisse up top???

 

because it will take a crisis for him to realize. 

 

before the game at southampton , every f***ing one of us knew that, if Cisse is fit he's going to be upfront with Ba and it won't work. 

 

 

 

I think the ba/cisse thing is crucial if we're going to get even a point on Weds.  Since both are two of his 'big' players and they are fit then they'll both start up top for us.  GRRRR!!!!

 

(warning! rant ahead:) When the fuck have we even seen once, just one time!, that the pair of them compliment each other or just basically work together.  Heck, we don't even see them talking to each other on the pitch.  What the hell does he do with them in training, surely the whole point of training would be getting them working together as a partnership.  Does he just stand their and admire their individual brilliance at 'banging them in' but does hee-haw else?!! :rant:

 

Anyhow, both will start on Weds, probably until we're 2-0 down and it's around the 60 minute mark and Pards will have ? ready to come on place of Cisse just as they score their third then we'll see a change and a defensive substitution made so we can really 'batten down the hatches'.

 

 

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Rooney, who is a far better player, gets put on the left of a front 3 . Ba can't be told to though or he gets upset. Something wrong here.

 

I can't believe that the reason is to keep Ba happy, I've never believed that. I just think Pardew prefers a more rigid system.

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Rooney, who is a far better player, gets put on the left of a front 3 . Ba can't be told to though or he gets upset. Something wrong here.

 

I can't believe that the reason is to keep Ba happy, I've never believed that. I just think Pardew prefers a more rigid system.

 

Bit of both imo, I don't trust the form of cisse to play the 433 with Ba on the left and Cisse upfront.  What I do want is the 433 though so that we can play 3 CM's as we are getting killed in midfield time and again, so that would need to have Ba upfront with HBA on one wing and it between Marveaux/Ferguson/Obertan for the other wing.

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Rooney, who is a far better player, gets put on the left of a front 3 . Ba can't be told to though or he gets upset. Something wrong here.

 

I can't believe that the reason is to keep Ba happy, I've never believed that. I just think Pardew prefers a more rigid system.

 

Bit of both imo, I don't trust the form of cisse to play the 433 with Ba on the left and Cisse upfront.  What I do want is the 433 though so that we can play 3 CM's as we are getting killed in midfield time and again.

 

Probably. I don't think Ba is 'ideal' for the wide position, but all things considered it's definitely the best option for the team.

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Rooney, who is a far better player, gets put on the left of a front 3 . Ba can't be told to though or he gets upset. Something wrong here.

 

I can't believe that the reason is to keep Ba happy, I've never believed that. I just think Pardew prefers a more rigid system.

 

Bit of both imo, I don't trust the form of cisse to play the 433 with Ba on the left and Cisse upfront.  What I do want is the 433 though so that we can play 3 CM's as we are getting killed in midfield time and again.

 

Probably. I don't think Ba is 'ideal' for the wide position, but all things considered it's definitely the best option for the team.

 

Why isn't he being played there then?

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Rooney, who is a far better player, gets put on the left of a front 3 . Ba can't be told to though or he gets upset. Something wrong here.

 

I can't believe that the reason is to keep Ba happy, I've never believed that. I just think Pardew prefers a more rigid system.

 

Bit of both imo, I don't trust the form of cisse to play the 433 with Ba on the left and Cisse upfront.  What I do want is the 433 though so that we can play 3 CM's as we are getting killed in midfield time and again.

 

Probably. I don't think Ba is 'ideal' for the wide position, but all things considered it's definitely the best option for the team.

 

Why isn't he being played there then?

 

Pardew doesn't agree?

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Rooney, who is a far better player, gets put on the left of a front 3 . Ba can't be told to though or he gets upset. Something wrong here.

 

I can't believe that the reason is to keep Ba happy, I've never believed that. I just think Pardew prefers a more rigid system.

 

Bit of both imo, I don't trust the form of cisse to play the 433 with Ba on the left and Cisse upfront.  What I do want is the 433 though so that we can play 3 CM's as we are getting killed in midfield time and again.

 

Probably. I don't think Ba is 'ideal' for the wide position, but all things considered it's definitely the best option for the team.

 

Why isn't he being played there then?

 

Pardew doesn't agree?

 

Clearly, he has his reasons.

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what really confuses me about Pardew's brand of football, direct long ball style is

 

You would think with all the long balls they practice in training that would at least some of it might shine through during set pieces?

 

Why does it not?  It;'s weird . 

 

Then i think about it???  We can't actually play any decent long balls most of the time can we?  it mostly ends straight back to the opposition and rinse repeat.  That explains it then.

 

Just awful.

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what really confuses me about Pardew's brand of football, direct long ball style is

 

You would think with all the long balls they practice in training that would at least some of it might shine through during set pieces?

 

Why does it not?  It;'s weird . 

 

Then i think about it???  We can't actually play any decent long balls most of the time can we?  it mostly ends straight back to the opposition and rinse repeat.  That explains it then.

 

Just awful.

 

I find it quite an unbelievable thought that the first team practices "long ball" in training. If they did, we would see an actual pattern of play, and in amongst all the shitness, one or two plays will eventually create chances for us. But even that doesn't happen.

 

I'm pretty sure we don't practice long ball, and that we actually aim to play it along the ground in training. We simply freeze when we're out on the pitch, and resort to the good old hoof. You can see Ba, Cisse et al during the game asking for the ball to be played to their feet. All the time.

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what really confuses me about Pardew's brand of football, direct long ball style is

 

You would think with all the long balls they practice in training that would at least some of it might shine through during set pieces?

 

Why does it not?  It;'s weird . 

 

Then i think about it???  We can't actually play any decent long balls most of the time can we?  it mostly ends straight back to the opposition and rinse repeat.  That explains it then.

 

Just awful.

 

I find it quite an unbelievable thought that the first team practices "long ball" in training. If they did, we would see an actual pattern of play, and in amongst all the shitness, one or two plays will eventually create chances for us. But even that doesn't happen.

 

I'm pretty sure we don't practice long ball, and that we actually aim to play it along the ground in training. We simply freeze when we're out on the pitch, and resort to the good old hoof. You can see Ba, Cisse et al during the game asking for the ball to be played to their feet. All the time.

 

If that is the case then Pardew needs to address the route cause of the problem - lack of movement.  We are totally static a lot of the time.  Telling them to move isn't enough - it's his fucking system so he needs to show them where and how to move within it, in order to find space.

 

 

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what really confuses me about Pardew's brand of football, direct long ball style is

 

You would think with all the long balls they practice in training that would at least some of it might shine through during set pieces?

 

Why does it not?  It;'s weird . 

 

Then i think about it???  We can't actually play any decent long balls most of the time can we?  it mostly ends straight back to the opposition and rinse repeat.  That explains it then.

 

Just awful.

 

I find it quite an unbelievable thought that the first team practices "long ball" in training. If they did, we would see an actual pattern of play, and in amongst all the shitness, one or two plays will eventually create chances for us. But even that doesn't happen.

 

I'm pretty sure we don't practice long ball, and that we actually aim to play it along the ground in training. We simply freeze when we're out on the pitch, and resort to the good old hoof. You can see Ba, Cisse et al during the game asking for the ball to be played to their feet. All the time.

 

 

what? really? hahaha what in the hell gave you that idea, you must be as mad as Pardew.

 

thats probably what Pardew sees in his imaginary world.

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what really confuses me about Pardew's brand of football, direct long ball style is

 

You would think with all the long balls they practice in training that would at least some of it might shine through during set pieces?

 

Why does it not?  It;'s weird . 

 

Then i think about it???  We can't actually play any decent long balls most of the time can we?  it mostly ends straight back to the opposition and rinse repeat.  That explains it then.

 

Just awful.

 

I find it quite an unbelievable thought that the first team practices "long ball" in training. If they did, we would see an actual pattern of play, and in amongst all the shitness, one or two plays will eventually create chances for us. But even that doesn't happen.

 

I'm pretty sure we don't practice long ball, and that we actually aim to play it along the ground in training. We simply freeze when we're out on the pitch, and resort to the good old hoof. You can see Ba, Cisse et al during the game asking for the ball to be played to their feet. All the time.

 

If that is the case then Pardew needs to address the route cause of the problem - lack of movement.  We are totally static a lot of the time.  Telling them to move isn't enough - it's his f***ing system so he needs to show them where and how to move within it, in order to find space.

 

Yes and this is why I wonder how much training we actually do. We really look unprepared when we take to the pitch. Fitness has also been an issue. When you consider the players have to work on fitness, tactics, set pieces, patterns of play, study the opposition, bonding sessions, as well as get their rest, you wonder how well organized our backroom is. Throw in all the travel, and you could have a right mess if you're not on top of things. I was under the impression last season that we are now a professionally run club, and that none of these were issues. The results and player performances suggest otherwise though.

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what really confuses me about Pardew's brand of football, direct long ball style is

 

You would think with all the long balls they practice in training that would at least some of it might shine through during set pieces?

 

Why does it not?  It;'s weird . 

 

Then i think about it???  We can't actually play any decent long balls most of the time can we?  it mostly ends straight back to the opposition and rinse repeat.  That explains it then.

 

Just awful.

 

I find it quite an unbelievable thought that the first team practices "long ball" in training. If they did, we would see an actual pattern of play, and in amongst all the shitness, one or two plays will eventually create chances for us. But even that doesn't happen.

 

I'm pretty sure we don't practice long ball, and that we actually aim to play it along the ground in training. We simply freeze when we're out on the pitch, and resort to the good old hoof. You can see Ba, Cisse et al during the game asking for the ball to be played to their feet. All the time.

 

Remember lads. Those long balls are our 'attacking' play, which only gets practiced one day a week. Dogshite and lower-rung tactic it may be, they're not going to master it by being told to lump the ball up field one day a week.

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what really confuses me about Pardew's brand of football, direct long ball style is

 

You would think with all the long balls they practice in training that would at least some of it might shine through during set pieces?

 

Why does it not?  It;'s weird . 

 

Then i think about it???  We can't actually play any decent long balls most of the time can we?  it mostly ends straight back to the opposition and rinse repeat.  That explains it then.

 

Just awful.

 

I find it quite an unbelievable thought that the first team practices "long ball" in training. If they did, we would see an actual pattern of play, and in amongst all the shitness, one or two plays will eventually create chances for us. But even that doesn't happen.

 

I'm pretty sure we don't practice long ball, and that we actually aim to play it along the ground in training. We simply freeze when we're out on the pitch, and resort to the good old hoof. You can see Ba, Cisse et al during the game asking for the ball to be played to their feet. All the time.

 

 

what? really? hahaha what in the hell gave you that idea, you must be as mad as Pardew.

 

thats probably what Pardew sees in his imaginary world.

 

Well aren't you a most condescending little prick.

 

You'd think there would be a fucking ruckus at the club if we practiced "long ball" as our primary mode of attack! Maybe we do, but I refuse to believe it as I just don't see anyone being that stupid at NUFC including Pardew.

 

Our current plight reminds me of Souness and his mantra about having a group of good players and just telling them to go out there and play.

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what really confuses me about Pardew's brand of football, direct long ball style is

 

You would think with all the long balls they practice in training that would at least some of it might shine through during set pieces?

 

Why does it not?  It;'s weird . 

 

Then i think about it???  We can't actually play any decent long balls most of the time can we?  it mostly ends straight back to the opposition and rinse repeat.  That explains it then.

 

Just awful.

 

I find it quite an unbelievable thought that the first team practices "long ball" in training. If they did, we would see an actual pattern of play, and in amongst all the shitness, one or two plays will eventually create chances for us. But even that doesn't happen.

 

I'm pretty sure we don't practice long ball, and that we actually aim to play it along the ground in training. We simply freeze when we're out on the pitch, and resort to the good old hoof. You can see Ba, Cisse et al during the game asking for the ball to be played to their feet. All the time.

 

I've always thought this, and when we're low on confidence it shows a lot more as well. Both the defenders are more nervous and the midfield are able to provide less options.

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what really confuses me about Pardew's brand of football, direct long ball style is

 

You would think with all the long balls they practice in training that would at least some of it might shine through during set pieces?

 

Why does it not?  It;'s weird . 

 

Then i think about it???  We can't actually play any decent long balls most of the time can we?  it mostly ends straight back to the opposition and rinse repeat.  That explains it then.

 

Just awful.

 

I find it quite an unbelievable thought that the first team practices "long ball" in training. If they did, we would see an actual pattern of play, and in amongst all the shitness, one or two plays will eventually create chances for us. But even that doesn't happen.

 

I'm pretty sure we don't practice long ball, and that we actually aim to play it along the ground in training. We simply freeze when we're out on the pitch, and resort to the good old hoof. You can see Ba, Cisse et al during the game asking for the ball to be played to their feet. All the time.

 

 

what? really? hahaha what in the hell gave you that idea, you must be as mad as Pardew.

 

thats probably what Pardew sees in his imaginary world.

 

Well aren't you a most condescending little prick.

 

You'd think there would be a f***ing ruckus at the club if we practiced "long ball" as our primary mode of attack! Maybe we do, but I refuse to believe it as I just don't see anyone being that stupid at NUFC including Pardew.

 

Our current plight reminds me of Souness and his mantra about having a group of good players and just telling them to go out there and play.

 

lol wake up and smell the coffee, you clearly been brought in and sold by the salesman Pardew just like he sold it to his players.

 

You dont believe we practice long balls?  why is it even when we are winning, you see players like the captain colo blast long balls? 

 

why does simpson keep launching them in time after time after time, regardless of the scorelines??? 

 

why does, every time we get awareded a freekick, instead of putting the hand over the ball and play it quick,  every player but the keeper pushes up to receive the long kick.

 

why does every goal kick that Krul receives, regardless of what the scoreline is, he waits for all the players to push up to receive the long ball?

 

why does pardew always have two tall strikers in his line-ups regardless of what formation he plays,  i.e,  shola, best, ba, cisse being out on the wings in 4-5-1 so they can recieve the long ball on their heads?

 

its got f*** all to do with them freezing out on the pitch lol dont be so naive man.

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His. and Bimpy's, crack is fucking awful. Revelling in our misfortune.

 

Oi revelling in it is not what i'm doing. At all.

 

Giss a kiss lover ;)

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You're a joke, mate.

 

 

His, and Bimpy's, crack is f***ing awful. Revelling in our misfortune.

 

I disagree.  Bimpys crack has given us all so much pleasure over the years :lol:

 

As have his comments on Mrs Bimpy's crack. :snod: O0

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