NEEJ Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 'DON'T FOUL. DON'T FOUL.' *Tiote commits a foul* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 From my experience 'in the stands' the discontent is just as much aimed towards the board as much as it is Pardew. I've heard plenty of people venting about Pardew when coming out of the ground and walking down Barrack Road after the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 dont know if this have been discussed or explained, but i didn´t find that strange that arfa was subbed. Maybe planned before the game...no need to push after an injury...maybe that was the reason. But putting Shola on with 20 -25 minutes left is probably the most stupid thing he has done so far. Marveaux should have been on and continued what arfa started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Shola is a fully paid up member of the PR team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I thought I was on the highest horse, but then someone told me it was a pit pony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I thought I was on the highest horse, but then someone told me it was a pit pony. Oh Dave, Nay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 What the hell have I started FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 What the hell have I started FFS. Hay neesy, there's no point trotting out the remorse* (here fuck it, re-horse) now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I've given up with him now. This game week is now over and we are two points off the drop zone with impossible fixtures taking us right up to January 2nd, although we lost 5 winnable fixtures in the last few weeks so it's probably beyond that. Any manager who takes that squad of players and ends up in a relegation battle isn't good enough for the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I'd take Wenger like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 The main problem is two-fold ; Pardew has demonstrated,at least for me, that he isn't going to cut the mustard as a topclass manager - that much is obvious by the constant below-par performances he gets from players who should be doing better added to the one-dimensional style of play which doesn't produce many chances. The second part of the problem is that the people above him clearly have NO idea of how to run a football club the size of NUFC - they have demonstrated this time and again by their stupid decisions and a transfer policy which has been myopic at best and niggardly at worst. Pardew is performing to type if you look back at his record with other clubs, but the crux of the matter is that very few fans trust the owner/MD to be able to replace him with anyone better....that is why he still hasn't really come in for flak from the fans, but I have no doubt that a series of bad performances/defeats over the next few games is going to change all that. Given that both manager and board suit each other for differing reasons, we are unlikely to see him fired unless we are rooted in the bottom 3 by mid-Jan...even then, there is little chance that anyone decent would be either available or want the job, esp if the Jan transfer money has been spent so I reckon we are stuck with the situation for the foreseeable future. There is a chance - a good chance - that this mess will lead to relegation and at the very least, the better players wanting to leave the club...some of them undoubtedly do already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I'd take Wenger like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I'd take Wenger like. Doesn't like to splash the cash these days. Mike could be interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Wenger? Never will happen though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Seeing loads of key players leaving last time wasn't that bad because I didn't like them and they weren't that good anyway. The players who'd leave this time are some of my favourite ever players. However, If we kept this squad and appointed a good manager it'd be like the Keegan days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Wenger will be out of a job for some time, he mentally needs a rest. Think him jumping straight in to another job would be car crash unless the club was going well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Yeah Wenger looks like he's a nice sabbatical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Will never happen, but i wonder how much Wenger earns? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 The main problem is two-fold ; Pardew has demonstrated,at least for me, that he isn't going to cut the mustard as a topclass manager - that much is obvious by the constant below-par performances he gets from players who should be doing better added to the one-dimensional style of play which doesn't produce many chances. The second part of the problem is that the people above him clearly have NO idea of how to run a football club the size of NUFC - they have demonstrated this time and again by their stupid decisions and a transfer policy which has been myopic at best and niggardly at worst. Pardew is performing to type if you look back at his record with other clubs, but the crux of the matter is that very few fans trust the owner/MD to be able to replace him with anyone better....that is why he still hasn't really come in for flak from the fans, but I have no doubt that a series of bad performances/defeats over the next few games is going to change all that. Given that both manager and board suit each other for differing reasons, we are unlikely to see him fired unless we are rooted in the bottom 3 by mid-Jan...even then, there is little chance that anyone decent would be either available or want the job, esp if the Jan transfer money has been spent so I reckon we are stuck with the situation for the foreseeable future. There is a chance - a good chance - that this mess will lead to relegation and at the very least, the better players wanting to leave the club...some of them undoubtedly do already. Agree with all of that. The people saying that Pardew needs time aren't taking into account that a very low finish or relegation is going to gut the first team immediately. It will be really sad to have to watch next years carry on without the likes of Hatem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 The main problem is two-fold ; Pardew has demonstrated,at least for me, that he isn't going to cut the mustard as a topclass manager - that much is obvious by the constant below-par performances he gets from players who should be doing better added to the one-dimensional style of play which doesn't produce many chances. The second part of the problem is that the people above him clearly have NO idea of how to run a football club the size of NUFC - they have demonstrated this time and again by their stupid decisions and a transfer policy which has been myopic at best and niggardly at worst. Pardew is performing to type if you look back at his record with other clubs, but the crux of the matter is that very few fans trust the owner/MD to be able to replace him with anyone better....that is why he still hasn't really come in for flak from the fans, but I have no doubt that a series of bad performances/defeats over the next few games is going to change all that. Given that both manager and board suit each other for differing reasons, we are unlikely to see him fired unless we are rooted in the bottom 3 by mid-Jan...even then, there is little chance that anyone decent would be either available or want the job, esp if the Jan transfer money has been spent so I reckon we are stuck with the situation for the foreseeable future. There is a chance - a good chance - that this mess will lead to relegation and at the very least, the better players wanting to leave the club...some of them undoubtedly do already. Agree with all of that. The people saying that Pardew needs time aren't taking into account that a very low finish or relegation is going to gut the first team immediately. It will be really sad to have to watch next years carry on without the likes of Hatem. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 The main problem is two-fold ; Pardew has demonstrated,at least for me, that he isn't going to cut the mustard as a topclass manager - that much is obvious by the constant below-par performances he gets from players who should be doing better added to the one-dimensional style of play which doesn't produce many chances. The second part of the problem is that the people above him clearly have NO idea of how to run a football club the size of NUFC - they have demonstrated this time and again by their stupid decisions and a transfer policy which has been myopic at best and niggardly at worst. Pardew is performing to type if you look back at his record with other clubs, but the crux of the matter is that very few fans trust the owner/MD to be able to replace him with anyone better....that is why he still hasn't really come in for flak from the fans, but I have no doubt that a series of bad performances/defeats over the next few games is going to change all that. Given that both manager and board suit each other for differing reasons, we are unlikely to see him fired unless we are rooted in the bottom 3 by mid-Jan...even then, there is little chance that anyone decent would be either available or want the job, esp if the Jan transfer money has been spent so I reckon we are stuck with the situation for the foreseeable future. There is a chance - a good chance - that this mess will lead to relegation and at the very least, the better players wanting to leave the club...some of them undoubtedly do already. I agreed with most of that apart from the relegation scenario. I'm far more concerned that we'll end up losing key players because the owners are too heavily invested in a manager who might fit their pay structure but who has fuck all idea how to assemble the complex parts delivered by the club's scouting policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Pardew is sooo up himself in every way. He has blamed our poor season on every f***ing thing in universe and beyond, except himself. He sounds like as if he's got absolutely nothing to do with anything that is not very good or f***ing awful. Take some responsibility, at least sometime. Nah, just fuck off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Is football management an Art or a Science? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Pardew is as much of a class act as an IKEA painting is art. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts