Mick Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 "You can look at naming rights - a strong, brave decision, because we know it's such an emotional subject. "So why do it? Because we need to bring in more income, more commercial income." £0 and counting. I don't know how he has the balls to mention it and Bird has let him get away with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8114975 Couple of different comments, but it looks like the Mirror article is just from the same stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Dekka talks pards contract and some other stuff http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-alan-pardews-new-eight-year-1347261 Too much "we couldn't afford it" talk there. Nonsense, as we all know. So what's the real reason, then? Being far too cautious. This quote sums it up... "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' That has to end. It has." if they say we couldn't afford it then the reason we wouldn't have signed a player is cos we couldn't afford it. We pay our fees outright in one go and are trying to make the club self sufficient, if we have £6m in the transfer pot and the selling club says we want £6.5m then rightly or wrongly Llambias is going to walk away. i might not agree but wouldn't say it was nonsense. We spent about £3 million. That's not acceptable, regardless of any spin they may try to put on it. January should be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Dekka talks pards contract and some other stuff http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-alan-pardews-new-eight-year-1347261 Too much "we couldn't afford it" talk there. Nonsense, as we all know. So what's the real reason, then? Being far too cautious. This quote sums it up... "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' That has to end. It has." if they say we couldn't afford it then the reason we wouldn't have signed a player is cos we couldn't afford it. We pay our fees outright in one go and are trying to make the club self sufficient, if we have £6m in the transfer pot and the selling club says we want £6.5m then rightly or wrongly Llambias is going to walk away. i might not agree but wouldn't say it was nonsense. We spent about £3 million. That's not acceptable, regardless of any spin they may try to put on it. January should be interesting. £3m net spend's a pretty lavish window for us under Ashley if you look at it properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Dekka talks pards contract and some other stuff http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-alan-pardews-new-eight-year-1347261 Too much "we couldn't afford it" talk there. Nonsense, as we all know. So what's the real reason, then? Being far too cautious. This quote sums it up... "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' That has to end. It has." if they say we couldn't afford it then the reason we wouldn't have signed a player is cos we couldn't afford it. We pay our fees outright in one go and are trying to make the club self sufficient, if we have £6m in the transfer pot and the selling club says we want £6.5m then rightly or wrongly Llambias is going to walk away. i might not agree but wouldn't say it was nonsense. We spent about £3 million. That's not acceptable, regardless of any spin they may try to put on it. January should be interesting. £3m net spend's a pretty lavish window for us under Ashley if you look at it properly. While it actually is ( ) that doesn't help their case. The less we've spent over the years just looks worse and worse as the trend continues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 "You look at the last 25 years at Newcastle and it has only known drama, from the highs to the lows," said Llambias, the St James' Park outfit's managing director. "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. "What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' Can't wait for title run ins and CL campaigns Dekka you belittling cunt. Peddling bullshit about the stadium n all, infuriating and what's that? You don't like clubs doing what you do to others? Fuck off man you fucking cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Dekka talks pards contract and some other stuff http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-alan-pardews-new-eight-year-1347261 Too much "we couldn't afford it" talk there. Nonsense, as we all know. So what's the real reason, then? Being far too cautious. This quote sums it up... "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' That has to end. It has." if they say we couldn't afford it then the reason we wouldn't have signed a player is cos we couldn't afford it. We pay our fees outright in one go and are trying to make the club self sufficient, if we have £6m in the transfer pot and the selling club says we want £6.5m then rightly or wrongly Llambias is going to walk away. i might not agree but wouldn't say it was nonsense. We spent about £3 million. That's not acceptable, regardless of any spin they may try to put on it. January should be interesting. £3m net spend's a pretty lavish window for us under Ashley if you look at it properly. While it actually is ( ) that doesn't help their case. The less we've spent over the years just looks worse and worse as the trend continues. Agree entirely. While of course the usual suspects will pop up and say "Some daft cunts want us to spend £20m on Darius Vassell before they're happy", there's a degree of balance to be had here. And there's no way to spin Ashley's tenure other than that the prevailing theme is we bring in more than we spend, transfers-wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Dekka talks pards contract and some other stuff http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-alan-pardews-new-eight-year-1347261 Too much "we couldn't afford it" talk there. Nonsense, as we all know. So what's the real reason, then? Being far too cautious. This quote sums it up... "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' That has to end. It has." if they say we couldn't afford it then the reason we wouldn't have signed a player is cos we couldn't afford it. We pay our fees outright in one go and are trying to make the club self sufficient, if we have £6m in the transfer pot and the selling club says we want £6.5m then rightly or wrongly Llambias is going to walk away. i might not agree but wouldn't say it was nonsense. We spent about £3 million. That's not acceptable, regardless of any spin they may try to put on it. January should be interesting. £3m net spend's a pretty lavish window for us under Ashley if you look at it properly. While it actually is ( ) that doesn't help their case. The less we've spent over the years just looks worse and worse as the trend continues. Aye it looked awful last season. If only they had some kind of basis to the idea that they dont need to run the club at a loss to achieve success. A 5th place finish might back that up somehow. Wishful thinking though anyway. Lets ignore context and moan about how much we spent constantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 "You look at the last 25 years at Newcastle and it has only known drama, from the highs to the lows," said Llambias, the St James' Park outfit's managing director. "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. "What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' Can't wait for title run ins and CL campaigns Dekka you belittling c***. Peddling bullshit about the stadium n all, and what's that you don't like clubs doing what you do to others. f*** off man. Until Pardew arrived Llambias had the worst record for managerial sackings, he's as thick as pig shit if he thinks people are going to fall for his propaganda. I bet Pardew has the same clause in his contract which limited the compensation Keegan received. In effect the contract length of 8 years will be meaningless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 "You look at the last 25 years at Newcastle and it has only known drama, from the highs to the lows," said Llambias, the St James' Park outfit's managing director. "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. "What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' Can't wait for title run ins and CL campaigns Dekka you belittling cunt. Peddling bullshit about the stadium n all, infuriating and what's that? You don't like clubs doing what you do to others? Fuck off man you fucking cunt. I haven't even read the article yet, I'm psyching myself up for reading it while reading your snippets. The bloke makes my fucking skin crawl. And he knows nowt about the club so I wish he would fuck off acting like his main interest isn't having his tongue so far up Mike Ashley's hoop it's unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 For me the lack of spending has only really been an issue this summer. We have put together a fantastic group of players for a pittance, this summer we were unable to get players of similar quality for the prices we previously paid and we stumbled. It's not embarrassing looking back at how little we have spent. it's just frustrating we didn't get a couple more to really push us on this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Aye it looked awful last season. If only they had some kind of basis to the idea that they dont need to run the club at a loss to achieve success. A 5th place finish might back that up somehow. Wishful thinking though anyway. Lets ignore context and moan about how much we spent constantly. What we spent during this summer has no bearing on where we finished last season and will be seen as a success/failure based on the results of this season. A season Llambias has targeted that we can drop 3 places and it would be seen by him as a success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Aye it looked awful last season. If only they had some kind of basis to the idea that they dont need to run the club at a loss to achieve success. A 5th place finish might back that up somehow. Wishful thinking though anyway. Lets ignore context and moan about how much we spent constantly. What we spent during this summer has no bearing on where we finished last season and will be seen as a success/failure based on the results of this season. A season Llambias has targeted that we can drop 3 places and it would be seen by him as a success. Maybe he is being realistic? We weren't that far ahead of Everton (fantastic start) and Chelsea (spent £100m) to be confident enough to say we will definitely finish above them. Liverpool are shite mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 "You look at the last 25 years at Newcastle and it has only known drama, from the highs to the lows," said Llambias, the St James' Park outfit's managing director. "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. "What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' Can't wait for title run ins and CL campaigns Dekka you belittling cunt. Peddling bullshit about the stadium n all, infuriating and what's that? You don't like clubs doing what you do to others? Fuck off man you fucking cunt. I haven't even read the article yet, I'm psyching myself up for reading it while reading your snippets. The bloke makes my fucking skin crawl. And he knows nowt about the club so I wish he would fuck off acting like his main interest isn't having his tongue so far up Mike Ashley's hoop it's unreal. he has an inability to open his gob without feeling the need to slag off someone else regardless of whether it's worthwhile or not. I've generally no problem with slightly rotund Mike and his policies (stadium aside) but this cunt grinds my gears to an unbelievable degree. I appreciate we're well run now, Shepherd aside I don't appreciate it being regularly being suggested that we should be grateful for whatever and lap it up when in other areas they're failing to consolidate and/or push on, 5th or no 5th. If anyone thinks we had a good summer and we're liable to kick on and win something this season / qualify for the CL they're "deluded" (as the old saying goes) and if they're not the objectives then what the fuck is going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 For me the lack of spending has only really been an issue this summer. Not sure how you can say this with a straight face unless you're treating 09/10 as year zero. January we sold Carroll was a bit ropey too. We could have gone down again and had no complaints. It's not like we hadn't been warned. Aye it looked awful last season. If only they had some kind of basis to the idea that they dont need to run the club at a loss to achieve success. A 5th place finish might back that up somehow. Wishful thinking though anyway. Lets ignore context and moan about how much we spent constantly. What we spent during this summer has no bearing on where we finished last season and will be seen as a success/failure based on the results of this season. A season Llambias has targeted that we can drop 3 places and it would be seen by him as a success. Maybe he is being realistic? We weren't that far ahead of Everton (fantastic start) and Chelsea (spent £100m) to be confident enough to say we will definitely finish above them. Liverpool are shite mind. Depressing. Other teams will improve so why bother? Basically I think you're going a bit far now, Jon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Dekka talks pards contract and some other stuff http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-alan-pardews-new-eight-year-1347261 Too much "we couldn't afford it" talk there. Nonsense, as we all know. So what's the real reason, then? Being far too cautious. This quote sums it up... "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' That has to end. It has." if they say we couldn't afford it then the reason we wouldn't have signed a player is cos we couldn't afford it. We pay our fees outright in one go and are trying to make the club self sufficient, if we have £6m in the transfer pot and the selling club says we want £6.5m then rightly or wrongly Llambias is going to walk away. i might not agree but wouldn't say it was nonsense. We spent about £3 million. That's not acceptable, regardless of any spin they may try to put on it. January should be interesting. £3m net spend's a pretty lavish window for us under Ashley if you look at it properly. While it actually is ( ) that doesn't help their case. The less we've spent over the years just looks worse and worse as the trend continues. Aye it looked awful last season. If only they had some kind of basis to the idea that they dont need to run the club at a loss to achieve success. A 5th place finish might back that up somehow. Wishful thinking though anyway. Lets ignore context and moan about how much we spent constantly. We sold our best player months before to fund signings and we'll possibly still be spending that money 2 years on. How's that for context, Derek? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 For me the lack of spending has only really been an issue this summer. Not sure how you can say this with a straight face unless you're treating 09/10 as year zero. January we sold Carroll was a bit ropey too. We could have gone down again and had no complaints. It's not like we hadn't been warned. Aye it looked awful last season. If only they had some kind of basis to the idea that they dont need to run the club at a loss to achieve success. A 5th place finish might back that up somehow. Wishful thinking though anyway. Lets ignore context and moan about how much we spent constantly. What we spent during this summer has no bearing on where we finished last season and will be seen as a success/failure based on the results of this season. A season Llambias has targeted that we can drop 3 places and it would be seen by him as a success. Maybe he is being realistic? We weren't that far ahead of Everton (fantastic start) and Chelsea (spent £100m) to be confident enough to say we will definitely finish above them. Liverpool are shite mind. Depressing. Other teams will improve so why bother? Basically I think you're going a bit far now, Jon. Have we not built up a fantastic group of players without having to spend silly money? Not at all. Is your genuine expectation to achieve what we did last season and anything else is a failure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Maybe he is being realistic? We weren't that far ahead of Everton (fantastic start) and Chelsea (spent £100m) to be confident enough to say we will definitely finish above them. Liverpool are s**** mind. If Everton finish above us it will be because we've allowed them to and part of that reason will be our lack of incoming transfers. If we drop 3 places in the league we'll lose about £3 million from the Premiership and we'll lose any income from Europe. I understand that we couldn't compete with Chelsea and I doubt anybody would expect us to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Top 4 is unrealistic IMO, but repeating last years success is a definite possibility. Spurs and Everton are not better than us IMO and Liverpool are shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Maybe he is being realistic? We weren't that far ahead of Everton (fantastic start) and Chelsea (spent £100m) to be confident enough to say we will definitely finish above them. Liverpool are s**** mind. If Everton finish above us it will be because we've allowed them to and part of that reason will be our lack of incoming transfers. If we drop 3 places in the league we'll lose about £3 million from the Premiership and we'll lose any income from Europe. I understand that we couldn't compete with Chelsea and I doubt anybody would expect us to. So we were that far ahead of Everton that we definitely should finish above them? This being a team where most would have bit your hand off to finish above them at the start of last season. The too much too soon comment does really seem to hit the nail on the head with some fans who have taken a fantastic season and twisted it in a 'depressing' way to have another go at things working out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Personally think we'll finish above Everton. They move the ball much better than us and are fluid but I think goals will be a problem over the season for them. We've played shite so far and will only get better. I think we've got a very good chance of sixth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 For me the lack of spending has only really been an issue this summer. Not sure how you can say this with a straight face unless you're treating 09/10 as year zero. January we sold Carroll was a bit ropey too. We could have gone down again and had no complaints. It's not like we hadn't been warned. Aye it looked awful last season. If only they had some kind of basis to the idea that they dont need to run the club at a loss to achieve success. A 5th place finish might back that up somehow. Wishful thinking though anyway. Lets ignore context and moan about how much we spent constantly. What we spent during this summer has no bearing on where we finished last season and will be seen as a success/failure based on the results of this season. A season Llambias has targeted that we can drop 3 places and it would be seen by him as a success. Maybe he is being realistic? We weren't that far ahead of Everton (fantastic start) and Chelsea (spent £100m) to be confident enough to say we will definitely finish above them. Liverpool are shite mind. Depressing. Other teams will improve so why bother? Basically I think you're going a bit far now, Jon. Have we not built up a fantastic group of players without having to spend silly money? Not at all. Is your genuine expectation to achieve what we did last season and anything else is a failure? Who mentioned spending silly money? After an unbelievable season with good signings all round would you not advocate giving the manager and scouts a little more to work with instead of tying his hands and expecting him to achieve the same on the similar/less resources when at least two teams below us have strengthened (Chelsea and Everton)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 The too much too soon comment does really seem to hit the nail on the head with some fans who have taken a fantastic season and twisted it in a 'depressing' way to have another go at things working out. Some want us to capitalize on this fantastic and unexpected opportunity and show some genuine ambition. Others are happy/content for us to go backwards and then have to do all the hard work all over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Have we not built up a fantastic group of players without having to spend silly money? Not at all. Is your genuine expectation to achieve what we did last season and anything else is a failure? Short term anything less than 5th is a failure, long term it could turn out to be a platform to work from and take us forwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Aye it looked awful last season. If only they had some kind of basis to the idea that they dont need to run the club at a loss to achieve success. A 5th place finish might back that up somehow. Wishful thinking though anyway. Lets ignore context and moan about how much we spent constantly. What we spent during this summer has no bearing on where we finished last season and will be seen as a success/failure based on the results of this season. A season Llambias has targeted that we can drop 3 places and it would be seen by him as a success. Obviously but the previous season should have earnt some belief in our model at this early stage, why would you disregard its history? Keeping in mind, that our best results so far this season have specifically happened when Coloccini & Simpson have been out. The players everyones concerned we dont have back up for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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