JB Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I'd forgotten about that spies shite he came out with. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLK Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 We're not 3 points away from relegation due to injuries. I honestly don't know if another manager could have done better given the same circumstances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/388524/Manchester-City-4-Newcastle-0-Euro-lottery-turning-sour-for-Alan-Pardew “We’ve approached every Europa League game to try to win it,” said Pardew. “You can fault us for that, but we think it’s the right approach and we will carry that forward into Thursday. “But we have lost bodies in this campaign. It has cost us points and, without a shadow of a doubt, we would not be in this position if we were not in the Europa League. “There are simply too many games in the competition for a Premier League team. I’m never going to change my opinion on that, even if we win the thing. It needs to be looked at. We’ve lost too many players through injury. “Unless we win it, we won’t be in it next season and we won’t have that pressure, so we can compete for the top 10, top eight, top five.” Pardew is sure that Newcastle will survive, even though the Tyne-Wear derby on April 14 has taken on an extra edge with Sunderland reacting to their owntailspin by sacking Martin O’Neill. “After the Stoke game I said that was an important win for us and put us in a position where I felt 40 points was achievable – and I have not changed my opinion,” said Pardew. “But I’m sure people will stir it up and suck us into it.” What an utterly pathetic excuse of a set of quotes. Don't even know where to fucking start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Agree with Polics earlier post and of course were we to have a season of mediocrity in the same negative fashion of playing, you can wave goodbye to our better players, if indeed they are still here after this season's debacle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Really looking forward to next season, anyway. It can't possibly be this bad. Well, unless we're not even in the Premier League. the only way next season will be as bad, is if we win the europa and have to play in it again. But having won it, we will accept another 40 yeears of f*** all anyway. win/win I actually believe even if we ( by some f*cking miracle) get to the final and are in Europe again next year it will be a lot easier for Pardew to deal with next season. Firstly the squad is a lot stronger and players like Debuchy and Gouffran won't be cup tied, also i would hope we would buy some players in the summer and lastly i refuse to believe we will get anywhere near as many key injuries again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 We're not 3 points away from relegation due to injuries. I honestly don't know if another manager could have done better given the same circumstances Wat ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 We're not 3 points away from relegation due to injuries. I honestly don't know if another manager could have done better given the same circumstances Wat ? It's unbelievable, man. We're 3 points from relegation and went through a period where we picked up about half a dozen points from 30 (it might actually be worse than that). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Our away record, as posted by Dave the other day: LDDDDLLLLLDWLLLL Aye, that's the absolute pinnacle of what any manager could have achieved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 The thing is the manager can set up a team to play in a more positive way but if they can't complete simple passes or get back to defend and tackle, there's no way it's going to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 And that's ignoring some disgusting home results, horrible football for the most part, the fact Pardew's actually actively lost us games by trying to be too clever/cautious instead of leaving it the same or chasing a 2nd goal, etc. You really can only have been paying attention to Pardew's press conferences and nowt else if you think nobody could have done better in the circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 The thing is the manager can set up a team to play in a more positive way but if they can't complete simple passes or get back to defend and tackle, there's no way it's going to work. Well it might be because we don't work enough on passing and attacking play to why they look clueless going forward. We work defensively and still look shite defensively as a team, 4 clean sheets all league season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 To put into perspective how shit he's done Martin O'Neil was sacked 2 days ago and his club are 2 points behind us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 LDDDDLLLLLDWLLLL Resting players works! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Spies was my personal favourite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Also it's easy to criticize the manager but have the performances of our players justified the praise they got last season. Apart from Cabaye, Krul and the new French lads everybody has been cack including Coloccini Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLK Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 We're not 3 points away from relegation due to injuries. I honestly don't know if another manager could have done better given the same circumstances Wat ? It's unbelievable, man. We're 3 points from relegation and went through a period where we picked up about half a dozen points from 30 (it might actually be worse than that). So you think if we had your realistic preferred manager then we would have definitely done better ? Who's this manager and how do you know he could have achieved beyter with our small desimated squad ? Finishing 5th and being manager of the season is reason I will give him until Christmas next season to redeem himself. If results are not better then sack him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 We're not 3 points away from relegation due to injuries. I honestly don't know if another manager could have done better given the same circumstances Wat ? It's unbelievable, man. We're 3 points from relegation and went through a period where we picked up about half a dozen points from 30 (it might actually be worse than that). We went on a run of 7 points from 39, from mid-November until we started that frenzy of signing players in late January (aside from Debuchy). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Spies was my personal favourite Someone post that Williamson & Jol picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 We're not 3 points away from relegation due to injuries. I honestly don't know if another manager could have done better given the same circumstances Wat ? It's unbelievable, man. We're 3 points from relegation and went through a period where we picked up about half a dozen points from 30 (it might actually be worse than that). So you think if we had your realistic preferred manager then we would have definitely done better ? Who's this manager and how do you know he could have achieved beyter with our small desimated squad ? Finishing 5th and being manager of the season is reason I will give him until Christmas next season to redeem himself. If results are not better then sack him. http://listhamper.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/head-stuck-in-sand.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 We're not 3 points away from relegation due to injuries. I honestly don't know if another manager could have done better given the same circumstances Wat ? It's unbelievable, man. We're 3 points from relegation and went through a period where we picked up about half a dozen points from 30 (it might actually be worse than that). So you think if we had your realistic preferred manager then we would have definitely done better ? Who's this manager and how do you know he could have achieved beyter with our small desimated squad ? Finishing 5th and being manager of the season is reason I will give him until Christmas next season to redeem himself. If results are not better then sack him. It's completely irrelevant who my preferred manager is, but there are dozens, possibly even hundreds of managers out there who could have done a better job this season with the players Pardew has had at his disposal, injuries and all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Personally, I'm in a dilemma regarding how long he should be given. I think my official line is probably until Jan 2014, but I'm really only saying that because I don't want to throw out a manager a year after finishing 5th. The problem is that I find it absolutely impossible to imagine our team looking any different come the start of next season. Maybe we'll be battling for 12th instead of 17th, but we'll still be peddling mediocre inconsistent direction-less shite. Can't be fucked with our handsome bullshitter anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I'll accept that the players need to stand up and take a percentage of the blame, but then again people do realise that motivating players and getting them to perform is one of the manager's absolute core responsibilities, yeah? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 We looked very strong at times defensively at times last season, though pace could undo us too easily, but that's something that I do think Pardew can do well, to me the hallmarks of Pardew teams seem to be a) Set up for counter attacking such that when teams don't really press high we really don't know what to do b) Basic passing poor, I am convinced we barely do any passing drilling in training and Pardew is of the sort to just think games of footy will improve players. This becomes particularly bad in games when we struggle to get a foothold in and need to just calmly pass it about a bit to gain some control, we never do, and normally get more and more frantic and messy c) Lack of movement off the ball, this is something that he seems to actively drain out of players, I can only assume he's so desperate for players to hold position defensively he doesn't spend enough time on the offensive side of play. This is often responsible for our long balls as when there's no available runs players will then try and kick a ball to the target man, who doesn't exist d) Poor tactical changes mid game. You can be too reactive to the opposition, but when things are going wrong, Pardew rarely turns it around (hence our awful record of coming from behind) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Spies was my personal favourite Someone post that Williamson & Jol picture. http://i.imgur.com/XWh83.jpg [credit to Disco] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 We're not 3 points away from relegation due to injuries. I honestly don't know if another manager could have done better given the same circumstances Wat ? It's unbelievable, man. We're 3 points from relegation and went through a period where we picked up about half a dozen points from 30 (it might actually be worse than that). We went on a run of 7 points from 39, from mid-November until we started that frenzy of signing players in late January (aside from Debuchy). I just find it baffling that people seem to think that all of his criticisms are unwarranted because he's had bad luck with injuries. He's been awful this year, and although our current situation is an unfair representation of him as a manger I think he's shown enough to suggest that his Manager of the Year title was a one off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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