JH Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 we can't keep giving him 10 minutes here and there and expect him to improve. It really is Cabella all over again And Ben Arfa (in the later stages) before that. etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 we can't keep giving him 10 minutes here and there and expect him to improve. It really is Cabella all over again Cabella got way more of a chance tbf. Thauvin has barely got a chance bar a few 5/10 minute cameos off the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I really don't understand what's going on with this guy. If you're going to play Mitrovic then you need someone to attach the byline and put crosses in. If you're struggling to create through the middle or with smart passing you need to put crosses in and try to cause problems that way. Maybe McClaren just can't bring himself to drop one of the others (even though we're fucking losing all the time) but even then, why give him so little time at the end of a game? How's he meant to get to grips with the league without playing in it? Don't get me wrong, I don't think Thauvin has done much of note so far, but it's got to be worth a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorin Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 His last cameos has been a step up since everything after the Northampton game imho. But these 3-5 min cameos is starting to get ridicolous when you think about the fact that he's praising him after each game and wount even increase the playing time. I'm also thinking we should do better in possession, we didn't have the players for it earlier, but we do somehow now... ah well, shoulda been posted in the #McClarenOUT thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Wasn't Thauvin easily our best player in that cup game against Northampton (I know, not exactly great opposition)? If our transfer strategy is to bring in promising players from abroad with the objective to sell them at a profit I completely fail to understand why we're letting a 12 million pound new signing rot on the bench when he should be getting used to the league and while other players are stinking the place out. As you say Dave, how will he ever be ready when he isn't given the pitch time to adapt? Anyway, I think the damage is already done and I suspect if the lad has any intelligence about him he'll want out at the earliest opportunity as we'll be ruining whatever is left of his career as we've done to so many others before him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Thauvin HAS to start wide left from this point on IMO, our lack of balance on the left and the obvious 1 sided attacking is signing our death certificate into the bottom 3 for good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Been a total and fairly predictable waste of time albeit it's not his fault primarily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 His problem is, like any creative player who has played for us since Robson, he didn't single handedly win all the games for us straight away and so can't be trusted by the coaching staff and the fans think he's a lazy, foreign shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Feel sorry for the bloke, seems like he's been putting in hours in the gym as they asked him to and he still wont even get a shot at a game for us. In a team that lacks like any sort of creativity. Dreadful the way we treat certain players. So badly managed, it's incredible. He had one poor game away to West Ham, don't think McClaren has forgiven him since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Cue someone saying "he doesn't care" too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Aye, even in the shite cameo roles he gets thrown at him. Always looking to try and get involved. Against Villa, if he had of started we would have won imo. He had the beating of Hutton everytime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I'd even try a team that had Perez and Thauvin wide with Gini in #10, Sissoko in some floating box to box role and Anita as the holder with Mitro up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I'd even try a team that had Perez and Thauvin wide with Gini in #10, Sissoko in some floating box to box role and Anita as the holder with Mitro up top. Absolutely, or Wijnaldum a bit further back alongside Sissoko but both with license to go forward (protected by one proper defensive midfield player). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Think Perez should play up top/10 or not at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Against Villa, if he had of started we would have won imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Against Villa, if he had of started we would have won imo. He beat Hutton everytime he ran at him. Hutton was nowhere near as effective going forward when Thauvin was on also. If you're beating fullbacks and whipping crosses in regularly, chances of scoring are heavily increased. Amazing what a bit of creativity can do. Might not just rely a one big chance a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Sorry, I was just moaning about the grammar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 It's mint how we keep on losing and losing games and we've not turned to this bloke once for a start in the league since Wesr Ham (am I right?). Probably start the Arsenal game and then get hooked at half-time, nice scapegoat for our latest defeat to nil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Sorry, I was just moaning about the grammar. fair enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Seems likely he will get a HBA like chance of starting away to Arsenal, predictably get none of the ball, and be back on the bench again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Can't really compare this lad to HBA. HBA was a worldly talent with an attitude/work ethic problem. Nobody has ever doubted HBA's ability. Thauvin seems like someone that is willing to try but there's huge doubts over his ability and skill. There's a good chance he just isn't rated by SMC on an ability level. That was never the issue with Hatem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Seems likely he will get a HBA like chance of starting away to Arsenal, predictably get none of the ball, and be back on the bench again http://i.imgur.com/YXbFQp8.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Can't really compare this lad to HBA. HBA was a worldly talent with an attitude/work ethic problem. Nobody has ever doubted HBA's ability. Thauvin seems like someone that is willing to try but there's huge doubts over his ability and skill. There's a good chance he just isn't rated by SMC on an ability level. That was never the issue with Hatem. Erm, so if that is the case why did we buy him in the first place? Isn't McClaren on the board and a member of our so-called transfer committee? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Can't really compare this lad to HBA. HBA was a worldly talent with an attitude/work ethic problem. Nobody has ever doubted HBA's ability. Thauvin seems like someone that is willing to try but there's huge doubts over his ability and skill. There's a good chance he just isn't rated by SMC on an ability level. That was never the issue with Hatem. Well you can, because that's who he replaced. That's why it's also okay to compare Colback with Cabaye. Them being different types of players has nothing to do with it, if one replaces the other you expect something better. As for the bit in bold, your hero Pardew did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Can't really compare this lad to HBA. HBA was a worldly talent with an attitude/work ethic problem. Nobody has ever doubted HBA's ability. Thauvin seems like someone that is willing to try but there's huge doubts over his ability and skill. There's a good chance he just isn't rated by SMC on an ability level. That was never the issue with Hatem. Erm, so if that is the case why did we buy him in the first place? Isn't McClaren on the board and a member of our so-called transfer committee? I have no idea why we bought him. If SMC rated him, surely he would play him more regularly? Perhaps he's needed to see him in training to come to this conclusion. I have no idea. It's just the HBA comparisons are facile. HBA doesn't get into teams because a) he falls out with the manager b) he falls out with team mates c) he doesn't work hard enough d) combination of all those factors. That doesn't apply to Thauvin at this moment in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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