Guest firetotheworks Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Yep, all stemming from a culture of fear. That's why we never stuff sides. We're full of inhibition. We had Gouffran, Remy, Cisse & Ben Arfa on the pitch together. Negative b******. All that attacking talent and yet we've averaged 1 goal per game all season. Go figure. Cisse and Ben Arfa were f***ing s**** on Saturday. All season? No good having such attacking talent on the pitch if you score FIVE goals in FIVE games. When was the time we beasted a team? When was the last time we dominated most of a match? We aren't a top team. We have no inalienable right to beast anyone. Since Pardew arrived we have scored 3 or more 15 times. We aspire to be an also ran team, like Everton. They have scored 3 or more on 14 occasions in the same timescale....and Moyes got rewarded with the Man U job. Generally, with most teams in the league, every dog has its day. The point is that we haven't for a very long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Every dog has its day. I remember when Lee Ryder said that about Coloccini when he played well against Cardiff in the promotion season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forollhogna Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Wouldnt mind a subpar manager as much if he was upfront with his preferred style of play - aka "fastpaced brand of front foot fotball"... As it is he is selling me a Guardiola-philosophy and cooks up something even fat sam would be seen blushing from at the dugout. Someone called him a Liar King and that really is the most apt name for him.. Cant even be bothered to call for his head it will never happen under this regime. Still, at least we have Ben Arfa as a beacon of entertainment every weekend.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Hull looked embarrassingly shit until we scored and took our footf off the gas. They'd hardly touched the ball whilst we were trying to attack. They looked poor throughout really, only the diagonal ball to Graham looked remotely threatening. The goals were two soft/shit defending and one brilliant strike. Their 3rd goal was a good team goal, actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 HF will always have a stat to prove that Pardew's doing a good job. Unfortunately neither the league table nor my own experiences back those up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 We need to tighten up at the back, if we are to improve as a team. I'm a big Colo fan, but Danny Graham give him a torrid time on Saturday in the 1st half which is worrying. Saylor needs to come back in for Yanga-Mbiwa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Concede 3 goals at home, you don't deserve to win. We need to tighten up at the back, if we are to improve as a team. neesy for manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Saylor needs to come back in for Yanga-Mbiwa. neesy out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 It's a fickle old world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest firetotheworks Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 The same shit from Pardew and the same claims of people being fickle for maintaining that he's shit. I'd say it's damaging, but your opinion has as much influence over our future as a club as ours; Absolute zero. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Saylor needs to come back in for Yanga-Mbiwa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 HF will always have a stat to prove that Pardew's doing a good job. Unfortunately neither the league table nor my own experiences back those up. Stats trying to deny what you see with your own eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forollhogna Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 HF will always have a stat to prove that Pardew's doing a good job. Unfortunately neither the league table nor my own experiences back those up. Stats trying to deny what you see with your own eyes. I see crap fotball being served up and have for some time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 so the upshot of all this is that almost everyone still thinks he's shit then? some people are just valuing his latest capitulation more than others (such as me) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 HF will always have a stat to prove that Pardew's doing a good job. Unfortunately neither the league table nor my own experiences back those up. Stats trying to deny what you see with your own eyes. I see crap fotball being served up and have for some time... The stats tell you otherwise my blind friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Saylor needs to come back in for Yanga-Mbiwa. I'd probably put Taylor back in there with Colo. Mapou's been pretty good, though, so he'd stay in the team too at Debuchy's expense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 HF will always have a stat to prove that Pardew's doing a good job. Unfortunately neither the league table nor my own experiences back those up. Bollocks. I always have a stat when people make wild claims about what we have or have not done which can be shown to be either worth further consideration or demonstrably false. Pardew's doing the job we all expected of him when he was appointed, no better, no worse. You'll not find me saying he's done a good job because I've always thought the bloke is a grade a cunt. I've been panning him in this thread this morning. What I'm not willing to do is to join the bandwagon to get the bloke sacked, because i want what is best for the club, and with Mike Ashley in charge i believe that Pardew is about as good as he can attract. That sitting in 12th with 2 wins and 2 defeats isn't really sackable form. If it gets as bad as it was last christmas, that could change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 HF will always have a stat to prove that Pardew's doing a good job. Unfortunately neither the league table nor my own experiences back those up. Bollocks. I always have a stat when people make wild claims about what we have or have not done which can be shown to be either worth further consideration or demonstrably false. Pardew's doing the job we all expected of him when he was appointed, no better, no worse. You'll not find me saying he's done a good job because I've always thought the bloke is a grade a cunt. I've been panning him in this thread this morning. What I'm not willing to do is to join the bandwagon to get the bloke sacked, because i want what is best for the club, and with Mike Ashley in charge i believe that Pardew is about as good as he can attract. That sitting in 12th with 2 wins and 2 defeats isn't really sackable form. If it gets as bad as it was last christmas, that could change. Form shouldn't make a difference any more than two good games for Shola should get him a new contract. The bloke is not good enough to do the job and never will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 HF will always have a stat to prove that Pardew's doing a good job. Unfortunately neither the league table nor my own experiences back those up. Bollocks. I always have a stat when people make wild claims about what we have or have not done which can be shown to be either worth further consideration or demonstrably false. Pardew's doing the job we all expected of him when he was appointed, no better, no worse. You'll not find me saying he's done a good job because I've always thought the bloke is a grade a c***. I've been panning him in this thread this morning. What I'm not willing to do is to join the bandwagon to get the bloke sacked, because i want what is best for the club, and with Mike Ashley in charge i believe that Pardew is about as good as he can attract. That sitting in 12th with 2 wins and 2 defeats isn't really sackable form. If it gets as bad as it was last christmas, that could change. Why aren't you as pissed off as everyone else then? Being in a position where we should want this idiot sacked, and do want him sacked, yet know that the alternative is Joe Kinnear? Why moderate your rage with these stats that essentially show us nothing of any worth? It just seems like you're trying to reassure yourself that things aren't as bad as they seem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 HF will always have a stat to prove that Pardew's doing a good job. Unfortunately neither the league table nor my own experiences back those up. Bollocks. I always have a stat when people make wild claims about what we have or have not done which can be shown to be either worth further consideration or demonstrably false. Pardew's doing the job we all expected of him when he was appointed, no better, no worse. You'll not find me saying he's done a good job because I've always thought the bloke is a grade a cunt. I've been panning him in this thread this morning. What I'm not willing to do is to join the bandwagon to get the bloke sacked, because i want what is best for the club, and with Mike Ashley in charge i believe that Pardew is about as good as he can attract. That sitting in 12th with 2 wins and 2 defeats isn't really sackable form. If it gets as bad as it was last christmas, that could change. Form shouldn't make a difference any more than two good games for Shola should get him a new contract. The bloke is not good enough to do the job and never will be. Anyone good enough for the job is not looking for work at a club with a neutral transfer budget. You're ASKING for Kinnear to get the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Saylor needs to come back in for Yanga-Mbiwa. Was wondering who would be the first to hoy this shit out there, well played neesy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I talk complete shite. FYP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Why aren't you as pissed off as everyone else then? Being in a position where we should want this idiot sacked, and do want him sacked, yet know that the alternative is Joe Kinnear? Why moderate your rage with these stats that essentially show us nothing of any worth? It just seems like you're trying to reassure yourself that things aren't as bad as they seem. In my view it's people saying things like we regularly lose at home when winning or even that embarrassing home defeats are frequent occurrences or that we haven't beasted anyone, who is trying to reassure themselves that Pardew is doing a much worse job than in reality. The truth is much more prosaic, we're a dull mid-table team that has peaks and troughs and a couple of players that can give us a smile. Things could get a whole lot worse if we bring another manager as bad or worse than Pardew. But I don't think things can ever get any better as long as Ashley is here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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