Alan Pardew

[littlelunchbox]

So what's the solution then HF? Presumably to sell all the players and buy a new squad for Pardew?

 

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good.  Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them.

 

Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder.

 

So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking?

 

Mid -table at best.

 

We're a poorly run club from the top.  Ashley has a yes man in charge of team affairs.  Someone who won't be critical of him.  Who will take the players he's given and never question it.

 

It's that sort of thing that players lament once they see how it goes.  Players bust a gut to finish in the top 5.  They secure a massive tv cash windfall......and then they see a summer investment of £2m.  that's more disheartening than anything Pardew can do.

 

I don't think the players in 2009 or 2013 are relegation fodder, but both of them have seen players tire of the lack of ambition at the top and look less and less interested on playing for the club...or the manager, no matter who he may be.

 

Excuses

[Mick]

Aye, because teams replace half their first team in the January transfer window and go on a magic run all the time? Why is it perfectly acceptable to say Colo needed a season to adapt to the pace of the Premiership, but not to suggest that integrating 4 or 5 new first team players in the team that already wasn't doing greatly was as much a blessing in terms of much needed squad investment as it was a hindrance to have to do it mid season? People hate it when Pardew uses "excuses" for things that haven't gone well, and he himself is also to blame for our gross underperformance this season, but there is no denying the impact injuries, "Europe" and too small a squad with panic reinforcing in January have had imho.

 

Bollocks, look at the team we had out against Reading at home for one.

[BONTEMPI]

Happy Face just can't cope with someone other than Ashley being a twat at this club.

 

I'm on record calling Pardew a cunt.

 

We were relegation bait before Pardew and we will be after though.  Ashley is the common denominator.

 

Ashley is a tool granted, but after the biggest spend of any team in the January window, he can hardly take any blame for the appalling showing since then.

 

You can always gauge how good a Manager is when the chips are down. It's about how they react to improve in areas you're struggling in.

 

Lets look at some of the issues.

 

Passing is still fucking shocking overall.

Corners are, well I think we all know.

Movement off the ball is still too static and easy to read.

Lack of pressure on the ball.

 

I could go on, but as not one of those areas have improved over the course of the season, I think it pretty much spells out he's not the right man for the job.

 

We have improved since the window closed and the show hasn't been so appalling since then.  We're 10th in the table on games since the window closed.  It was the awful run before the window that fucked our season.

 

 

 

Never let results or form tables blind you to what is actually happening on the pitch.

 

It's about key areas of improvement in terms of the managers performance.  Can you point to one key area he has actually improved us over the season?

[Darth Crooks]

So what's the solution then HF? Presumably to sell all the players and buy a new squad for Pardew?

 

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good.  Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them.

 

Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder.

 

So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking?

 

Mid -table at best.

 

We're a poorly run club from the top.  Ashley has a yes man in charge of team affairs.  Someone who won't be critical of him.  Who will take the players he's given and never question it.

 

It's that sort of thing that players lament once they see how it goes.  Players bust a gut to finish in the top 5.  They secure a massive tv cash windfall......and then they see a summer investment of £2m.  that's more disheartening than anything Pardew can do.

 

I don't think the players in 2009 or 2013 are relegation fodder, but both of them have seen players tire of the lack of ambition at the top and look less and less interested on playing for the club...or the manager, no matter who he may be.

 

Agree wholeheartedly for the first part; the second bit with regardless of manager I don't. A more positive motivator would get far more out of these players.

[Wullie]

So what's the solution then HF? Presumably to sell all the players and buy a new squad for Pardew?

 

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good.  Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them.

 

Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder.

 

So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking?

 

Mid -table at best.

 

We're a poorly run club from the top.  Ashley has a yes man in charge of team affairs.  Someone who won't be critical of him.  Who will take the players he's given and never question it.

 

It's that sort of thing that players lament once they see how it goes.  Players bust a gut to finish in the top 5.  They secure a massive tv cash windfall......and then they see a summer investment of £2m.  that's more disheartening than anything Pardew can do.

 

I don't think the players in 2009 or 2013 are relegation fodder, but both of them have seen players tire of the lack of ambition at the top and look less and less interested on playing for the club...or the manager, no matter who he may be.

 

Part of that ambition is the manager, who you have shown you're fully behind.

 

Oh no sorry, you say he isn't good enough but don't want him replaced with a better one.

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

 

 

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good.  Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them.

 

It's really unfair isn't it?  We must be the only team in the league with internationals in our squad.

 

We're probably the only team in the league with two senior strikers. One playing through injury the other injured.

 

Eh?

 

 

Cisse - fractured rib.

 

Ameobi - s****/injured.

 

 

Pretty pathetic.

 

Cisse doesn't have a fractured rib, and I'm fairly sure Gouffran is a striker.

 

We had two of Europe's most coveted strikers between August to January, and went on the worst run of form in the club's history.

 

Yes he does - he went to see a specialist & has been playing through it.

 

This season has seen Gouffran play in the centre for Bordeaux but before that he's been on the wing - like he was when he came to SJP. Ba wasn't properly replaced - a 20+ goal a season striker.

 

Worst run in our history? No not at all but I suppose the hysterical fannies on here might want to believe it. Spoiled rotten off 5th tbh.

[Mick]

 

 

Part of that ambition is the manager, who you have shown you're fully behind.

 

Oh no sorry, you say he isn't good enough but don't want him replaced with a better one.

 

[Dave]

It took us well over two years of Pardew's tenure to win any league match after falling behind. Against QPR we finally did it away from home too, in his 49th away game. What are the reasons for these milestones taking so long to be achieved?

[STM]

Most managers could do a better job, with a worse squad. Infact they have.

[Mick]

 

 

Yes he does - he went to see a specialist & has been playing through it.

 

This season has seen Gouffran play in the centre for Bordeaux but before that he's been on the wing - like he was when he came to SJP. Ba wasn't properly replaced - a 20+ goal a season striker.

 

Worst run in our history? No not at all but I suppose the hysterical fannies on here might want to believe it. Spoiled rotten off 5th tbh.

 

What does that even mean?

[Darth Crooks]

The fear of a poorer replacement argument is mental. That will only ever be evident in hindsight whereas with Pardew we know his previous. Better the devil you know it ain't.

[Happy Face]

So what's the solution then HF? Presumably to sell all the players and buy a new squad for Pardew?

 

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good.  Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them.

 

Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder.

 

So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking?

 

Mid -table at best.

 

We're a poorly run club from the top.  Ashley has a yes man in charge of team affairs.  Someone who won't be critical of him.  Who will take the players he's given and never question it.

 

It's that sort of thing that players lament once they see how it goes.  Players bust a gut to finish in the top 5.  They secure a massive tv cash windfall......and then they see a summer investment of £2m.  that's more disheartening than anything Pardew can do.

 

I don't think the players in 2009 or 2013 are relegation fodder, but both of them have seen players tire of the lack of ambition at the top and look less and less interested on playing for the club...or the manager, no matter who he may be.

 

Part of that ambition is the manager, who you have shown you're fully behind.

 

Oh no sorry, you say he isn't good enough but don't want him replaced with a better one.

 

Almost there.

 

I'd have him replaced with a better manager tomorrow.  Only an idiot wouldn't.

 

I don't buy that Pardew is the worst manager that Ashley could appoint though.  Based on several previous appointments he is the very best.

 

 

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

It took us well over two years of Pardew's tenure to win any league match after falling behind. Against QPR we finally did it away from home too, in his 49th away game. What are the reasons for these milestones taking so long to be achieved?

 

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[Happy Face]

The fear of a poorer replacement argument is mental. That will only ever be evident in hindsight whereas with Pardew we know his previous. Better the devil you know it ain't.

 

We know Ashley's previous too.

 

Amazed people forget so easily.

[Guest firetotheworks]

So what's the solution then HF? Presumably to sell all the players and buy a new squad for Pardew?

 

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good.  Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them.

 

Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder.

 

So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking?

 

Mid -table at best.

 

We're a poorly run club from the top.  Ashley has a yes man in charge of team affairs.  Someone who won't be critical of him.  Who will take the players he's given and never question it.

 

It's that sort of thing that players lament once they see how it goes.  Players bust a gut to finish in the top 5.  They secure a massive tv cash windfall......and then they see a summer investment of £2m.  that's more disheartening than anything Pardew can do.

 

I don't think the players in 2009 or 2013 are relegation fodder, but both of them have seen players tire of the lack of ambition at the top and look less and less interested on playing for the club...or the manager, no matter who he may be.

 

Part of that ambition is the manager, who you have shown you're fully behind.

 

Oh no sorry, you say he isn't good enough but don't want him replaced with a better one.

 

Almost there.

 

I'd have him replaced with a better manager tomorrow.  Only an idiot wouldn't.

 

I don't buy that Pardew is the worst manager that Ashley could appoint though.  Based on several previous appointments he is the very best.

 

Didn't you just say that some would take Redknapp over Pardew. Are you suggesting that Pardew is a better manager than Redknapp?

[Darth Crooks]

Hysterical fannies spoilt rotten off 5th? We have survived by the skin of the skin of our teeth man with one worst goals conceded stats in the league and a manager that is thankful we aren't in European competitions. Great Expectations indeed.

[Wullie]

 

 

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good.  Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them.

 

It's really unfair isn't it?  We must be the only team in the league with internationals in our squad.

 

We're probably the only team in the league with two senior strikers. One playing through injury the other injured.

 

Eh?

 

 

Cisse - fractured rib.

 

Ameobi - s****/injured.

 

 

Pretty pathetic.

 

Cisse doesn't have a fractured rib, and I'm fairly sure Gouffran is a striker.

 

We had two of Europe's most coveted strikers between August to January, and went on the worst run of form in the club's history.

 

Yes he does - he went to see a specialist & has been playing through it.

 

This season has seen Gouffran play in the centre for Bordeaux but before that he's been on the wing - like he was when he came to SJP. Ba wasn't properly replaced - a 20+ goal a season striker.

 

Worst run in our history? No not at all but I suppose the hysterical fannies on here might want to believe it. Spoiled rotten off 5th tbh.

 

Yes, 7 points from 36 was at least one of the worst runs of form in our history, so was going until January without an away win.

 

Hysterical fannies when we were one game off relegation.

 

You think Pardew's doing a good job then? What's he doing so well for you? He says Cisse has no rib injury btw.

[Wullie]

So what's the solution then HF? Presumably to sell all the players and buy a new squad for Pardew?

 

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good.  Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them.

 

Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder.

 

So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking?

 

Mid -table at best.

 

We're a poorly run club from the top.  Ashley has a yes man in charge of team affairs.  Someone who won't be critical of him.  Who will take the players he's given and never question it.

 

It's that sort of thing that players lament once they see how it goes.  Players bust a gut to finish in the top 5.  They secure a massive tv cash windfall......and then they see a summer investment of £2m.  that's more disheartening than anything Pardew can do.

 

I don't think the players in 2009 or 2013 are relegation fodder, but both of them have seen players tire of the lack of ambition at the top and look less and less interested on playing for the club...or the manager, no matter who he may be.

 

Part of that ambition is the manager, who you have shown you're fully behind.

 

Oh no sorry, you say he isn't good enough but don't want him replaced with a better one.

 

Almost there.

 

I'd have him replaced with a better manager tomorrow.  Only an idiot wouldn't.

 

I don't buy that Pardew is the worst manager that Ashley could appoint though.  Based on several previous appointments he is the very best.

 

Utter WUM. Not worth talking to.

[Guest icemanblue]

So what's the solution then HF? Presumably to sell all the players and buy a new squad for Pardew?

 

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good.  Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them.

 

Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder.

 

So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking?

 

Mid -table at best.

 

We're a poorly run club from the top.  Ashley has a yes man in charge of team affairs.  Someone who won't be critical of him.  Who will take the players he's given and never question it.

 

It's that sort of thing that players lament once they see how it goes.  Players bust a gut to finish in the top 5.  They secure a massive tv cash windfall......and then they see a summer investment of £2m.  that's more disheartening than anything Pardew can do.

 

I don't think the players in 2009 or 2013 are relegation fodder, but both of them have seen players tire of the lack of ambition at the top and look less and less interested on playing for the club...or the manager, no matter who he may be.

 

Part of that ambition is the manager, who you have shown you're fully behind.

 

Oh no sorry, you say he isn't good enough but don't want him replaced with a better one.

 

Almost there.

 

I'd have him replaced with a better manager tomorrow.  Only an idiot wouldn't.

 

I don't buy that Pardew is the worst manager that Ashley could appoint though.  Based on several previous appointments he is the very best.

 

Utter WUM. Not worth talking to.

 

Bet you still do, though.

[Darth Crooks]

The fear of a poorer replacement argument is mental. That will only ever be evident in hindsight whereas with Pardew we know his previous. Better the devil you know it ain't.

 

We know Ashley's previous too.

 

Amazed people forget so easily.

 

Yeah ok. Silly forgetful old me for not putting up and shutting up. Jesus wept. Stagnation for the win.

[Beren]

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

 

 

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good.  Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them.

 

It's really unfair isn't it?  We must be the only team in the league with internationals in our squad.

 

We're probably the only team in the league with two senior strikers. One playing through injury the other injured.

 

Eh?

 

 

Cisse - fractured rib.

 

Ameobi - s****/injured.

 

 

Pretty pathetic.

 

Cisse doesn't have a fractured rib, and I'm fairly sure Gouffran is a striker.

 

We had two of Europe's most coveted strikers between August to January, and went on the worst run of form in the club's history.

 

Yes he does - he went to see a specialist & has been playing through it.

 

This season has seen Gouffran play in the centre for Bordeaux but before that he's been on the wing - like he was when he came to SJP. Ba wasn't properly replaced - a 20+ goal a season striker.

 

Worst run in our history? No not at all but I suppose the hysterical fannies on here might want to believe it. Spoiled rotten off 5th tbh.

 

Yes, 7 points from 36 was at least one of the worst runs of form in our history, so was going until January without an away win.

 

Hysterical fannies when we were one game off relegation.

 

You think Pardew's doing a good job then? What's he doing so well for you?

 

I don't think Pardew is doing a good job, neither is the regime, neither are the players. Half the league has been close to relegation this past couple of games but it just takes a bit of perspective.

 

I have zero faith in Ashley to appoint someone better - it'll be another one of his mates and as I said earlier in the thread and got scoffed at for - Ashley & Derek aren't going to sack one of their mates. If you invest fuck all & pick up the bargains you're going to be inconsistent - that's just the way it is.

 

A proper summer window or a replacement for Demba in january and nobody would be talking about relegation. Our squad was barely fit for the domestic season never mind europe on top.

[NG32]

Good article from true-faith

 

http://www.true-faith.co.uk/tbawe.html

 

Id still fuck pardew off mind.

[Mick]

 

 

 

 

Utter WUM. Not worth talking to.

 

 

He's not like.

[Happy Face]

So what's the solution then HF? Presumably to sell all the players and buy a new squad for Pardew?

 

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good.  Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them.

 

Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder.

 

So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking?

 

Mid -table at best.

 

We're a poorly run club from the top.  Ashley has a yes man in charge of team affairs.  Someone who won't be critical of him.  Who will take the players he's given and never question it.

 

It's that sort of thing that players lament once they see how it goes.  Players bust a gut to finish in the top 5.  They secure a massive tv cash windfall......and then they see a summer investment of £2m.  that's more disheartening than anything Pardew can do.

 

I don't think the players in 2009 or 2013 are relegation fodder, but both of them have seen players tire of the lack of ambition at the top and look less and less interested on playing for the club...or the manager, no matter who he may be.

 

Part of that ambition is the manager, who you have shown you're fully behind.

 

Oh no sorry, you say he isn't good enough but don't want him replaced with a better one.

 

Almost there.

 

I'd have him replaced with a better manager tomorrow.  Only an idiot wouldn't.

 

I don't buy that Pardew is the worst manager that Ashley could appoint though.  Based on several previous appointments he is the very best.

 

Didn't you just say that some would take Redknapp over Pardew. Are you suggesting that Pardew is a better manager than Redknapp?

 

'Arry who's only won 4 out of 25 at QPR despite spending more than us in January?

 

Yeah, I wouldn't consider that better.