Mick Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I was talking about both windows - the January signings were panic buying - Ashley didn't want to spend otherwise. Pardew said the squad was good enough to challenge for the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. It's really unfair isn't it? We must be the only team in the league with internationals in our squad. We're probably the only team in the league with two senior strikers. One playing through injury the other injured. Eh? Cisse - fractured rib. Ameobi - s****/injured. Pretty pathetic. Cisse doesn't have a fractured rib, and I'm fairly sure Gouffran is a striker. We had two of Europe's most coveted strikers between August to January, and went on the worst run of form in the club's history. Yes he does - he went to see a specialist & has been playing through it. This season has seen Gouffran play in the centre for Bordeaux but before that he's been on the wing - like he was when he came to SJP. Ba wasn't properly replaced - a 20+ goal a season striker. Worst run in our history? No not at all but I suppose the hysterical fannies on here might want to believe it. Spoiled rotten off 5th tbh. Yes, 7 points from 36 was at least one of the worst runs of form in our history, so was going until January without an away win. Hysterical fannies when we were one game off relegation. You think Pardew's doing a good job then? What's he doing so well for you? I don't think Pardew is doing a good job, neither is the regime, neither are the players. Half the league has been close to relegation this past couple of games but it just takes a bit of perspective. I have zero faith in Ashley to appoint someone better - it'll be another one of his mates and as I said earlier in the thread and got scoffed at for - Ashley & Derek aren't going to sack one of their mates. If you invest f*** all & pick up the bargains you're going to be inconsistent - that's just the way it is. A proper summer window or a replacement for Demba in january and nobody would be talking about relegation. Our squad was barely fit for the domestic season never mind europe on top. So if we'd kept Demba, we wouldn't be talking about relegation? How do you explain the form up to that point? I was talking about both windows - the January signings were panic buying - Ashley didn't want to spend otherwise. You used the word 'or', meaning one or the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I was talking about both windows - the January signings were panic buying - Ashley didn't want to spend otherwise. Pardew said the squad was good enough to challenge for the CL. Pardew says what he's told to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 WUM or thick as pigshit. Difference is negligible, tbh. At least being thick as pig shit is a decent excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Based on several previous appointments he is the very best. Utter WUM. Not worth talking to. Which of Ashley's other appointments proved more succesful? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. It's really unfair isn't it? We must be the only team in the league with internationals in our squad. We're probably the only team in the league with two senior strikers. One playing through injury the other injured. Eh? Cisse - fractured rib. Ameobi - s****/injured. Pretty pathetic. Cisse doesn't have a fractured rib, and I'm fairly sure Gouffran is a striker. We had two of Europe's most coveted strikers between August to January, and went on the worst run of form in the club's history. Yes he does - he went to see a specialist & has been playing through it. This season has seen Gouffran play in the centre for Bordeaux but before that he's been on the wing - like he was when he came to SJP. Ba wasn't properly replaced - a 20+ goal a season striker. Worst run in our history? No not at all but I suppose the hysterical fannies on here might want to believe it. Spoiled rotten off 5th tbh. Yes, 7 points from 36 was at least one of the worst runs of form in our history, so was going until January without an away win. Hysterical fannies when we were one game off relegation. You think Pardew's doing a good job then? What's he doing so well for you? I don't think Pardew is doing a good job, neither is the regime, neither are the players. Half the league has been close to relegation this past couple of games but it just takes a bit of perspective. I have zero faith in Ashley to appoint someone better - it'll be another one of his mates and as I said earlier in the thread and got scoffed at for - Ashley & Derek aren't going to sack one of their mates. If you invest f*** all & pick up the bargains you're going to be inconsistent - that's just the way it is. A proper summer window or a replacement for Demba in january and nobody would be talking about relegation. Our squad was barely fit for the domestic season never mind europe on top. So if we'd kept Demba, we wouldn't be talking about relegation? How do you explain the form up to that point? I was talking about both windows - the January signings were panic buying - Ashley didn't want to spend otherwise. You used the word 'or', meaning one or the other. If we had a proper summer window - or If we'd kept Demba. Why would keeping Demba result in no other signings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Pardew says what he's told to say. Well I feel better having read that glowing tribute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Based on several previous appointments he is the very best. Utter WUM. Not worth talking to. Which of Ashley's other appointments proved more succesful? His gastric band appointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Pardew says what he's told to say. Well I feel better having read that glowing tribute. and so would any other manager. Curbishley, Hoddle, whoever he appoints Because it wont be £5M per annum Benitez I'll tell you that much. That's the state we're in as a club. A vehicle to advertise Sports Direct basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 If the only remotely tangible argument is that 'there may be someone worse come in' and that the clubs aspirations correlate then we are fucked as fans. It's not beyond the realms of possibility but the more thread relevant issue remains that this man is hugely culpable, the easiest to replace and, whether he will or not, SHOULD cease to be the manager of this club. This is the time where we'll see the truest colours of this regime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just done that Chronicle thing. God that bit about what one question would you ask Pardew was so hard. There's so many questions I want answered! I went for the: 'Why in 2.5 years at Newcastle have you not been able to implement a style of play that means regardless of the personnel available the players will be comfortable & familiar playing a style that best suits their abilities?' (or something along those lines) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 If the only remotely tangible argument is that 'there may be someone worse come in' and that the clubs aspirations correlate then we are f***ed as fans. It's not beyond the realms of possibility but the more thread relevant issue remains that this man is hugely culpable, the easiest to replace and, whether he will or not, SHOULD cease to be the manager of this club. This is the time where we'll see the truest colours of this regime. Sadly if you look at Ashley's other appointments that's where we are as fans & the true colours of this regime is they don't want to sack their drinking buddy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just done that Chronicle thing. God that bit about what one question would you ask Pardew was so hard. There's so many questions I want answered! I went for the: 'Why in 2.5 years at Newcastle have you not been able to implement a style of play that means regardless of the personnel available the players will be comfortable & familiar playing a style that best suits their abilities?' (or something along those lines) Can you name the last Newcastle manager to do this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 If the only remotely tangible argument is that 'there may be someone worse come in' and that the clubs aspirations correlate then we are fucked as fans. It's not beyond the realms of possibility but the more thread relevant issue remains that this man is hugely culpable, the easiest to replace and, whether he will or not, SHOULD cease to be the manager of this club. This is the time where we'll see the truest colours of this regime. I've been saying since the start of last season, I don't think they'd sack him even if we went down again. They see him as a good fit for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Curbishley ffs. It's easy to play this game. "I'd like a new striker" "You what?! You want to sign Ade Akinbiyi?!" "Umm well a full back maybe?" "Oh so now you're happy to re-sign Peter Ramage?!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just done that Chronicle thing. God that bit about what one question would you ask Pardew was so hard. There's so many questions I want answered! I went for the: 'Why in 2.5 years at Newcastle have you not been able to implement a style of play that means regardless of the personnel available the players will be comfortable & familiar playing a style that best suits their abilities?' (or something along those lines) Can you name the last Newcastle manager to do this? Not that it is relevant or that they had as long but we generally played the same way under Hughton most of the time, likewise Robson 10 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 and so would any other manager. Curbishley, Hoddle, whoever he appoints Because it wont be £5M per annum Benitez I'll tell you that much. That's the state we're in as a club. A vehicle to advertise Sports Direct basically. You don't know what we would pay a new manager or who it might be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just done that Chronicle thing. God that bit about what one question would you ask Pardew was so hard. There's so many questions I want answered! I went for the: 'Why in 2.5 years at Newcastle have you not been able to implement a style of play that means regardless of the personnel available the players will be comfortable & familiar playing a style that best suits their abilities?' (or something along those lines) Can you name the last Newcastle manager to do this? Irrespective of how shit or inexperienced your players are, why don't they play well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 If the only remotely tangible argument is that 'there may be someone worse come in' and that the clubs aspirations correlate then we are f***ed as fans. It's not beyond the realms of possibility but the more thread relevant issue remains that this man is hugely culpable, the easiest to replace and, whether he will or not, SHOULD cease to be the manager of this club. This is the time where we'll see the truest colours of this regime. Sadly if you look at Ashley's other appointments that's where we are as fans & the true colours of this regime is they don't want to sack their drinking buddy. Should he go then; in a footballing sense? If so does that make us unreasonable in our expectations? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just done that Chronicle thing. God that bit about what one question would you ask Pardew was so hard. There's so many questions I want answered! I went for the: 'Why in 2.5 years at Newcastle have you not been able to implement a style of play that means regardless of the personnel available the players will be comfortable & familiar playing a style that best suits their abilities?' (or something along those lines) Can you name the last Newcastle manager to do this? Not that it is relevant or that they had as long but we generally played the same way under Hughton most of the time, likewise Robson 10 years ago. Both played Kick and Rush a lot of the time though - so not a million miles from what we're playing a lot of the time now - just with better fitting personal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 and so would any other manager. Curbishley, Hoddle, whoever he appoints Because it wont be £5M per annum Benitez I'll tell you that much. That's the state we're in as a club. A vehicle to advertise Sports Direct basically. You don't know what we would pay a new manager or who it might be. See, that's where this indisputable evidence of personal history comes into play, Mick. They've never forked out big bucks for a manager before, so they can't now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 and so would any other manager. Curbishley, Hoddle, whoever he appoints Because it wont be £5M per annum Benitez I'll tell you that much. That's the state we're in as a club. A vehicle to advertise Sports Direct basically. You don't know what we would pay a new manager or who it might be. I'll just study Ashley's form, Hughton/Pardew's wage & previous recruitment techniques as my methodology then. What's yours? Wishful thinking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 and so would any other manager. Curbishley, Hoddle, whoever he appoints Because it wont be £5M per annum Benitez I'll tell you that much. That's the state we're in as a club. A vehicle to advertise Sports Direct basically. You don't know what we would pay a new manager or who it might be. See, that's where this indisputable evidence of personal history comes into play, Mick. They've never forked out big bucks for a manager before, so they can't now. Pardew never ''pulled it round'' before so he can't now. etc etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Absolutely nailed that questionnaire My question to Pardew was: Your negative tactics contradict the players we have. Why do you persist with them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just done that Chronicle thing. God that bit about what one question would you ask Pardew was so hard. There's so many questions I want answered! I went for the: 'Why in 2.5 years at Newcastle have you not been able to implement a style of play that means regardless of the personnel available the players will be comfortable & familiar playing a style that best suits their abilities?' (or something along those lines) Can you name the last Newcastle manager to do this? Not that it is relevant or that they had as long but we generally played the same way under Hughton most of the time, likewise Robson 10 years ago. Both played Kick and Rush a lot of the time though - so not a million miles from what we're playing a lot of the time now - just with better fitting personal. Hence the personnel aspect of the question, we don't get the best out of ours. I have absolutely no problem with direct football and it was a hell of a lot better under whoever than the way we try and fail to play it at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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