Interpolic Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Changing my work password to incorporate the words "Pardew" and "Out" doesn't seem to have had the desired effect yet then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Odd how people have started posting in this thread now that we are safe. Who'd have thunk it. My favourite bit is where fans tell other fans how to behave/feel/act. Cracking stuff. Yep its great stuff.. "We almost got relegated ok so stop being negative in here" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Odd how people have started posting in this thread now that we are safe. Who'd have thunk it. My favourite bit is where fans tell other fans how to behave/feel/act. Cracking stuff. Yep its great stuff.. "We almost got relegated ok so stop being negative in here" Ever think you could contribute more to the thread yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 meeting between Ashley and pardew with carr present? hope to fuck carr gives Ashley an earful about the way his recruits have been used. he needs to ask pards in front of Ashley what his tactics/formation are going to be for next season so he can scout appropriately for once. Carr doesn't watch the games Doesn't he? That's incredible if true. He's a scout. Why would he scout our own players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I fucking wish I'd only just come back once we were safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I fucking wish I'd only just come back once we were safe. I'm getting better at knowing when posting is pointless, I think! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I fucking wish I'd only just come back once we were safe. This thread is like a bad batch of smack. You know it's not going to be enjoyable but because you're an addict you have to get involved & do it anyway even though the end results are pain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Odd how people have started posting in this thread now that we are safe. Who'd have thunk it. My favourite bit is where fans tell other fans how to behave/feel/act. Cracking stuff. Yep its great stuff.. "We almost got relegated ok so stop being negative in here" Ever think you could contribute more to the thread yourself? My contribution are no more than yours lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Here we are at the bottom of it all, when every last excuse has been drained of all it's effectiveness. Want Pardew out because you think it'll improve the team? Stop caring about the team then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I fucking wish I'd only just come back once we were safe. This thread is like a bad batch of smack. You know it's not going to be enjoyable but you have to get involved anyway. Like pulling a loose tooth. Not entirely sure that it's a good pain, but it's painful nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Odd how people have started posting in this thread now that we are safe. Who'd have thunk it. My favourite bit is where fans tell other fans how to behave/feel/act. Cracking stuff. Yep its great stuff.. "We almost got relegated ok so stop being negative in here" Ever think you could contribute more to the thread yourself? My contribution are no more than yours lol OMG ur posts are amazeballs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 meeting between Ashley and pardew with carr present? hope to fuck carr gives Ashley an earful about the way his recruits have been used. he needs to ask pards in front of Ashley what his tactics/formation are going to be for next season so he can scout appropriately for once. Carr doesn't watch the games Doesn't he? That's incredible if true. Nope, I've heard him talk on a few occasions about how he's too nervous to watch us. If he's away and we've got a game he'll be on the phone to his wife asking what the score is every five minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 The problem with the club's blueprint now is that they believe stability will bring rewards yet don't seem to give the manager sufficient freedom to build his own team. I don't think that works long term. There's no point sticking with the same man over a long period while giving him little control over transfers. I think Ashley got his fingers burnt with Allardyce, who it seems had greater freedom to bring in his own type of players and left us with a load of dross on sizeable wages that had to be cleared out. Since then, Keegan was messed around and Pardew seems to have little say over who comes in. The way the club is run we could probably do with a manager who is more adaptable than Pardew and can work with what he's given because that's how it's going to be under Ashley. I'm still doubtful good managers will come to work under those circumstances but hopefully the size of the club might tempt an up and coming manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Odd how people have started posting in this thread now that we are safe. Who'd have thunk it. My favourite bit is where fans tell other fans how to behave/feel/act. Cracking stuff. Yep its great stuff.. "We almost got relegated ok so stop being negative in here" Ever think you could contribute more to the thread yourself? Me? Non. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 meeting between Ashley and pardew with carr present? hope to fuck carr gives Ashley an earful about the way his recruits have been used. he needs to ask pards in front of Ashley what his tactics/formation are going to be for next season so he can scout appropriately for once. Carr doesn't watch the games Doesn't he? That's incredible if true. He's a scout. Why would he scout our own players? The fuck are you talking about? He could very easily just watch the game for leisure. Stop trying to be clever ALL THE TIME. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Odd how people have started posting in this thread now that we are safe. Who'd have thunk it. My favourite bit is where fans tell other fans how to behave/feel/act. Cracking stuff. Yep its great stuff.. "We almost got relegated ok so stop being negative in here" Ever think you could contribute more to the thread yourself? My contribution are no more than yours lol OMG ur posts are amazeballs! I'm no longer down with the kids, whatever that means, thank you I have moments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 An entirely non-contributory argument about who is contributing more. Irony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Odd how people have started posting in this thread now that we are safe. Who'd have thunk it. My favourite bit is where fans tell other fans how to behave/feel/act. Cracking stuff. Sorry, did I infringe on your sarcasm patent? Didn't realise it was an across the board situation I think we should just let our club slide further into the mire with a manager that is nowhere near capable of managing this team and has proved that unequivocally this season. That's the better idea. We must not entertain the possibility of change as every fan on here who wants Pardew gone wants Ashley to spend 100000 billion pounds on Messi and all the bestest players in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 An entirely non-contributory argument about who is contributing more. Irony. The irony of your post. Lol Sorry I couldn't help it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Want Pardew out because you think it'll improve the team? Stop caring about the team then. Whew, where's this come from? Wullie, Spider, Sandra? As Inochi pointed out, that was in relation to Morrissey's post at the top of the page about how he was on the verge of self-harm due to Pardew being our manager. Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I don't think anybody is arguing that Pardew has done a good enough job this season, just that the chances of him being canned are slim at best due to the commitment the club very publicly gave him, so how can anybody be massively surprised that he will be given another crack at the whip when this is exactly what they said they would do at times of adversity. Also, the sheer denial of mitigating circumstances by some and the personal hatred for Pardew comes across as very childish to me, but hey ho.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 An entirely non-contributory argument about who is contributing more. Irony. The irony of your post. Lol Sorry I couldn't help it. I know, never mind, we haven't had enough iron knees since Demba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 An entirely non-contributory argument about who is contributing more. Irony. The irony of your post. Lol Sorry I couldn't help it. I know, never mind, we haven't had enough iron knees since Demba. Very good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 The problem with the club's blueprint now is that they believe stability will bring rewards yet don't seem to give the manager sufficient freedom to build his own team. I don't think that works long term. There's no point sticking with the same man over a long period while giving him little control over transfers. I think Ashley got his fingers burnt with Allardyce, who it seems had greater freedom to bring in his own type of players and left us with a load of dross on sizeable wages that had to be cleared out. Since then, Keegan was messed around and Pardew seems to have little say over who comes in. The way the club is run we could probably do with a manager who is more adaptable than Pardew and can work with what he's given because that's how it's going to be under Ashley. I'm still doubtful good managers will come to work under those circumstances but hopefully the size of the club might tempt an up and coming manager. It's a totally confused approach from the top. It's like they want to try all methods at once. They clearly stated that they must put an end to big pay-outs for managers being sacked...but moreso for the massive restructuring job required on the squad every time a manager goes. It makes good business sense to have a coach independent of recruitment. Have a club policy on transfers and an interchangeable manager that can be jettisoned and replaced with out too much distruption. Kepp him on his toes. But then, they've got the notion that a manager needs stability and support, irrespective of his performance he should get a long term contract and be entrusted to build...despite not having any say on transfers. Totally shambolic and contradictory policies. The second one only works for an empowered Manager, able to build his vision of a squad. The former only works if you actually replace underperforming managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 The problem with the club's blueprint now is that they believe stability will bring rewards yet don't seem to give the manager sufficient freedom to build his own team. I don't think that works long term. There's no point sticking with the same man over a long period while giving him little control over transfers. I think Ashley got his fingers burnt with Allardyce, who it seems had greater freedom to bring in his own type of players and left us with a load of dross on sizeable wages that had to be cleared out. Since then, Keegan was messed around and Pardew seems to have little say over who comes in. The way the club is run we could probably do with a manager who is more adaptable than Pardew and can work with what he's given because that's how it's going to be under Ashley. I'm still doubtful good managers will come to work under those circumstances but hopefully the size of the club might tempt an up and coming manager. Llambias (or possibly even Mort) was very clear about this point in the aftermath of Allardyce leaving. They were astonished at the cost of player turnover associated with every managerial change - of course, every manager insists on having enough time (and cash) to bring in and bed 'his own' players before being judged on results. It was said at the time that the club would be moving away from this 'traditional' method in order to separate player acquisitions and the manager's role. Whoever was in charge would be given a squad and expected to concentrate on getting results from that. Worked a treat last season,. not so much this season. EDIT: what HF said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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