Tisd09 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Shut the fuck up Joe, that's the best way you can respect the fans and the club. Just shut up and get on with the job you are supposed to do or at least what you tell is you are here for. This week has been depressing. Newcastle have come out of this week or so with zero credibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Shearer doesn't and never will have the intelligence to be a manager but most of the blame (from a managerial perspective) has to rest with JFK for the relegation. That said, I think we'd have stayed up had he not had his heart problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Shearer doesn't and never will have the intelligence to be a manager but most of the blame (from a managerial perspective) has to rest with JFK for the relegation. That said, I think we'd have stayed up had he not had his heart problem. Do those two sentences not sort of contradict each other? JFK is to blame for relegation, but we would have stayed up had he not fallen ill? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 No, because he had the biggest window to get points on the board and failed to get the best out of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 we would also of stayed up if Keegan or big sam had of stayed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TRon Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Shearer doesn't and never will have the intelligence to be a manager but most of the blame (from a managerial perspective) has to rest with JFK for the relegation. That said, I think we'd have stayed up had he not had his heart problem. I tend to agree. Shearer gave the impression he was more concerned about his own image than the team and that's part of the reason IMO he couldn't get the players to give 100%. His arrogance was absolutely necessary as a footballer, but as a manager you need to put the players first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Does it matter whether or not Shearer was any good? He's not the one who's come back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Quite scary how quickly we reach the apathy stage these days. Already seeing people on Twitter saying to drop it and "let him get on with the job he was supposedly brought in to do." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 What else can we do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Put a witch spell on Ashley and set the stadium on fire? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 In all seriousness, I'm still angry about this (and its far from over IMO). Last thing I want is someone telling me to 'let him get on with it' when the appointment is less than a week old. That's someit you say in August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I can see where you're coming from, just think the best approach at the moment may well be to let the dust settle a little bit and see where things fall. Individually there's not much else we can do that has any impact at all aside from withdrawing our funds from the club by cancelling whatever subscriptions we have (season tickets, memberships, NUFC TV, etc.) Kinnear's first test is obviously the transfer window and the type of dealing we get through. You never know, hopefully they'll be keen to impress and show that the appointment was worthwhile! Not holding my breath, of course. I was initially angry and embarrassed, but Graham Carr staying has placated me somewhat and I'm just settling in to see what the next month or so brings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Im far from happy. But theres not alot we can do about it. Just going to sit back and see how it all unfolds. The best situation we can hope for now, is for Kinnear (a fucking idiot) to realise Pardew is a fucking idiot and completely inept at his job. There is then a slight chance we could get a manager in that is capable of getting our squad to play good successful football, rather than shit unsuccessful football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Quite scary how quickly we reach the apathy stage these days. Already seeing people on Twitter saying to drop it and "let him get on with the job he was supposedly brought in to do." Im sure I read someone saying we should be "nice" cos he had a son die. Justifying his appointment on the basis of pity and charity almost. I give up at times. He was brought in as gesture to us imo Two fingers stuck up at us from an owner who couldn't give two shits about our club, its future and most importantly us. The apathy and the willingness of some to continue being trodden on, shat on and ignored staggers me. "its cos I'm loyal". Bullshit imo. They are part of the problem and are partly culpable. Feck me imagine if we had been led by these cow towers and collaborators in general society: no votes, no rights. Just do as his Lordship says, after all they know best. they must do, they're in positions of power and authority: we should know our place... Christ we are seeing the people of Brazil currently making an effort at saying "This isn't right". Saying it over important matters and they are being listened too and have the respect of most of the world for doing so. Some of us are prepared to pull down our pants and say "Just keep on shaftin Mike", for a relatively trivial matter of a football club and its future. Makes me sick to my stomach. You get what you deserve more often than not. We are fucked with these idiots in charge of NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I still think it's an absolutely mental decision, but not as bad now Carr and Pardew have stayed. We're just waiting to see when/how the time bomb is going to go off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I can see where you're coming from, just think the best approach at the moment may well be to let the dust settle a little bit and see where things fall. Individually there's not much else we can do that has any impact at all aside from withdrawing our funds from the club by cancelling whatever subscriptions we have (season tickets, memberships, NUFC TV, etc.) Kinnear's first test is obviously the transfer window and the type of dealing we get through. You never know, hopefully they'll be keen to impress and show that the appointment was worthwhile! Not holding my breath, of course. I was initially angry and embarrassed, but Graham Carr staying has placated me somewhat and I'm just settling in to see what the next month or so brings. My problem is I can see Pardew/Kinnear being quite similar and almost 'out voting' Carr on transfers. Just get the feeling this window will be more Darren Bent than unearthed European young star. We'll become exactly what I don't want us to be. Full of old, overrated Brits that can 'put in a tackle'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Was Kinnear's appointment not just more to do with getting at Llambias and Pardew than sticking two fingers up at the fans? If so, does that not give anyone a modicum of hope that Ashley isn't content to just survive in the league year-on-year? I appreciate that short-term it looks awful, given Kinnear's character and history, but personally I've taken some solace in the fact that at least Ashley was apparently arsed that we did shite. At times I have wondered whether it did actually matter to him or not how well we performed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I can see where you're coming from, just think the best approach at the moment may well be to let the dust settle a little bit and see where things fall. Individually there's not much else we can do that has any impact at all aside from withdrawing our funds from the club by cancelling whatever subscriptions we have (season tickets, memberships, NUFC TV, etc.) Kinnear's first test is obviously the transfer window and the type of dealing we get through. You never know, hopefully they'll be keen to impress and show that the appointment was worthwhile! Not holding my breath, of course. I was initially angry and embarrassed, but Graham Carr staying has placated me somewhat and I'm just settling in to see what the next month or so brings. My problem is I can see Pardew/Kinnear being quite similar and almost 'out voting' Carr on transfers. Just get the feeling this window will be more Darren Bent than unearthed European young star. We'll become exactly what I don't want us to be. Full of old, overrated Brits that can 'put in a tackle'. It could happen like that, definitely, but if it's just one or two then I could live with it. Still not sure how exactly Bent and Cisse would be supposed to work. Pardew is still the main problem, for me, it's him we've got to thank for this series of events more than anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I am at the point of genuinely believing he couldn't give a toss. He hates owning the club, but cant shift it, hates us for a variety of reasons and is just being vindictive and spiteful. What was it Llambias sais? " You don't know how horrible/nasty we can be"?? I think we will find out. The JFK apt makes no sense at all, on any level. Conspiracies about wheedling Pardew out etc don't wash with me. The question over an owner actually running a club in a proper and fair manner needs addressed imo. Wullie started the thread about a parliamentary role or statute etc. Spot on for me. The Venkys, Hearts, Coventry, Pompey, Leeds to an extent: all symptoms of the national sport of our country being pissed by irresponsible and culpable rogues. we are in the same boat now imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Quite scary how quickly we reach the apathy stage these days. Already seeing people on Twitter saying to drop it and "let him get on with the job he was supposedly brought in to do." Im sure I read someone saying we should be "nice" cos he had a son die. Justifying his appointment on the basis of pity and charity almost. I give up at times. He was brought in as gesture to us imo Two fingers stuck up at us from an owner who couldn't give two s***s about our club, its future and most importantly us. The apathy and the willingness of some to continue being trodden on, shat on and ignored staggers me. "its cos I'm loyal". Bullshit imo. They are part of the problem and are partly culpable. Feck me imagine if we had been led by these cow towers and collaborators in general society: no votes, no rights. Just do as his Lordship says, after all they know best. they must do, they're in positions of power and authority: we should know our place... Christ we are seeing the people of Brazil currently making an effort at saying "This isn't right". Saying it over important matters and they are being listened too and have the respect of most of the world for doing so. Some of us are prepared to pull down our pants and say "Just keep on shaftin Mike", for a relatively trivial matter of a football club and its future. Makes me sick to my stomach. You get what you deserve more often than not. We are f***ed with these idiots in charge of NUFC. I really am equally flabbergasted why folks get so wound up about stuff they can't (and shouldn't even try to) influence. last I looked football was about 11 blokes playing 11 blokes on a weekend (used to be Saturday) and what happens in that encounter, win some, lose some, draw some. It supposed to be about the game. What happens on the periphery of the actual game itself is just not that important IMO. If you enjoy "the match" go, if you don't, don't go, simple, all else is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Quite scary how quickly we reach the apathy stage these days. Already seeing people on Twitter saying to drop it and "let him get on with the job he was supposedly brought in to do." Im sure I read someone saying we should be "nice" cos he had a son die. Justifying his appointment on the basis of pity and charity almost. I give up at times. He was brought in as gesture to us imo Two fingers stuck up at us from an owner who couldn't give two s***s about our club, its future and most importantly us. The apathy and the willingness of some to continue being trodden on, shat on and ignored staggers me. "its cos I'm loyal". Bullshit imo. They are part of the problem and are partly culpable. Feck me imagine if we had been led by these cow towers and collaborators in general society: no votes, no rights. Just do as his Lordship says, after all they know best. they must do, they're in positions of power and authority: we should know our place... Christ we are seeing the people of Brazil currently making an effort at saying "This isn't right". Saying it over important matters and they are being listened too and have the respect of most of the world for doing so. Some of us are prepared to pull down our pants and say "Just keep on shaftin Mike", for a relatively trivial matter of a football club and its future. Makes me sick to my stomach. You get what you deserve more often than not. We are f***ed with these idiots in charge of NUFC. I really am equally flabbergasted why folks get so wound up about stuff they can't (and shouldn't even try to) influence. last I looked football was about 11 blokes playing 11 blokes on a weekend (used to be Saturday) and what happens in that encounter, win some, lose some, draw some. It supposed to be about the game. What happens on the periphery of the actual game itself is just not that important IMO. If you enjoy "the match" go, if you don't, don't go, simple, all else is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 That's a fair point if NUFC is just a match to you. it isn't to me. its part of my region, the pride I have in it, the city I love and the people who mean so much to me. Its not about the match or the 11 players. Rarely has been for me. I've seen mostly dross over the years on the field, the PL years under KK and SBR being part of the exception. Didn't matter. I loved going, home and away. Being crap was never the issue, still isn't to some extent. The wilful destruction of the club, its name being dragged through the mud, the area and region being vilified, that I cant stomach. As you say though just stay away. I have been and will continue to do so. Wish more had the same opinion obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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