KaKa Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The Salah guy must be an absolute moron tbh. The players really do p*ss me off just as much. The guy is going to be a part time scrub on that team. Why settle for that. I know more money, I mean f*** me, you're going to be paid handsomely either way. Go somewhere to play you tit. This is Wilian to Tottenham all over again, as they screwed Spurs over royally, but at least Wilian plays now. He's going to the team who play in London, offer the biggest payday and the greatest potential for a medal. It would be hard for any young player to turn down. There should be restrictions in place to stop clubs acting like this, but I'm not about to blame the player. Liverpool are on the up, will definitely pay him well, and he is more likely to play regularly in the first team. This London shit is peculiar to me it really is. These jokers train a coupe of hours a day. Go into London after, or on your days off for goodness sake. So over the top. If that was your son you would honestly advice him to go to Chelsea and end up like Sturridge did, or Demba Ba is now? I will never understand it. The guy is a moron. And the medal thing?! What point is that if you played the odd 15 mins here and there. I'd throw the thing away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The Salah guy must be an absolute moron tbh. The players really do p*ss me off just as much. The guy is going to be a part time scrub on that team. Why settle for that. I know more money, I mean f*** me, you're going to be paid handsomely either way. Go somewhere to play you tit. This is Wilian to Tottenham all over again, as they screwed Spurs over royally, but at least Wilian plays now. He's going to the team who play in London, offer the biggest payday and the greatest potential for a medal. It would be hard for any young player to turn down. There should be restrictions in place to stop clubs acting like this, but I'm not about to blame the player. Liverpool are on the up, will definitely pay him well, and he is more likely to play regularly in the first team. This London shit is peculiar to me it really is. These jokers train a coupe of hours a day. Go into London after, or on your days off for goodness sake. So over the top. If that was your son you would honestly advice him to go to Chelsea and end up like Sturridge did, or Demba Ba is now? I will never understand it. The guy is a moron. And the medal thing?! What point is that if you played the odd 15 mins here and there. I'd throw the thing away. Careful not to overreact there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I imagine a professional footballer believes in their own ability that much that they feel whatever team they move to they will be a major part of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The Salah guy must be an absolute moron tbh. The players really do p*ss me off just as much. The guy is going to be a part time scrub on that team. Why settle for that. I know more money, I mean f*** me, you're going to be paid handsomely either way. Go somewhere to play you tit. This is Wilian to Tottenham all over again, as they screwed Spurs over royally, but at least Wilian plays now. He's going to the team who play in London, offer the biggest payday and the greatest potential for a medal. It would be hard for any young player to turn down. There should be restrictions in place to stop clubs acting like this, but I'm not about to blame the player. Liverpool are on the up, will definitely pay him well, and he is more likely to play regularly in the first team. This London shit is peculiar to me it really is. These jokers train a coupe of hours a day. Go into London after, or on your days off for goodness sake. So over the top. If that was your son you would honestly advice him to go to Chelsea and end up like Sturridge did, or Demba Ba is now? I will never understand it. The guy is a moron. And the medal thing?! What point is that if you played the odd 15 mins here and there. I'd throw the thing away. Liverpool aren't even in European competition right now. They are irrelevant. I'm sure you're more than aware of the differences of living in London to living a few hours outside of London. Plus it'll be far easier to fly home from London. I would not advise my son to go to Chelsea, no. Liverpool would be the better option. But I certainly see why people would choose to pick the more relevant team in the more relevant city with the more impressive wages. Plenty of people play to make money, and he'll make significantly more money at Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Didn't mean for that to come across as having a go at SEMTEX if it did. Sorry I just think these players are so idiotic, and don't really consider the long term ramifications of these moves. Look at Scott Sinclair. Was flying at Swansea then opted for Man City and didn't play for a whole season. Now the guy can't even feature regularly for West Brom. He's been set back massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 SEMTEX the guy is 21 years old. If he was 28 I would understand. Just don't get it myself sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Surely it makes far more sense for the 21 year old to take the pay day than the 28 year old who has already had his pay day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Mata's set pieces will be a big boon for Man Utd. Everyone likes a big boon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpet Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Apparently we verbally agreed a fee with Basel in first week of January, and then decided to lowball and bring the price down by a million or 2. Ian Ayre doing his best Joe Kinnear impression. Honestly, our best chance of top 4 in half a decade, had all the momentum in the world 1 month ago after Suarez' contract...now down to 15 fit players training and doesn't look like we'll sign anybody either. Infuriating. A very Mike Ashley-esque transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 You say Liverpool aren't relevant, but what does that really mean. Suarez is tearing it up for them and is getting massive recognition. Cabaye has elevated his reputation massively since coming to us. He was such a low key signing when he came to us it was unreal. That team was all about Gervinho and hazard. Now Cabaye is the main man in the French team. How relevant are we? Salah will go and join Demba Ba on the bench for a relevant team, but will become an irrelevant player. I'd much rather be a relevant player for a less relevant team anyday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Surely it makes far more sense for the 21 year old to take the pay day than the 28 year old who has already had his pay day? Liverpool want him at 21. He will make his money either way for sure if he is playing regularly and performing well. My point was if he was 28 and having not made it to a more significant club, then maybe he'd feel it was a last chance to do so, and get that final big pay before retirement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpet Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Mourinho actually running the transfer window in England. Just as I thought I couldn't hate the c*ntish c*ntface even more. He'll probably now sign Draxler and loans him to Vitesse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Salah to Chelsea, how many midfielders does Jose want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpet Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Salah to Chelsea, how many midfielders does Jose want Salah was scheduled to have medical at Melwood tomorrow, like 24 hours ago Willian all over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 See Wenger is whinging about the January transfer window again with regards to the Mata transfer. I'm sure he did this last season as well, it's been like this for ages, just accept it man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Salah to Chelsea, how many midfielders does Jose want Salah was scheduled to have medical at Melwood tomorrow, like 24 hours ago Willian all over again. Mourinho is like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Would love it if Mourinho went all and pulled the plug on the Mata transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 See Wenger is whinging about the January transfer window again with regards to the Mata transfer. I'm sure he did this last season as well, it's been like this for ages, just accept it man. He's moaning about Chelsea selling players to rivals with Mata going to Man Utd. Erm RVP and Nasri, wonderfully short and selective memory Wenger has Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 See Wenger is whinging about the January transfer window again with regards to the Mata transfer. I'm sure he did this last season as well, it's been like this for ages, just accept it man. He's moaning about Chelsea selling players to rivals with Mata going to Man Utd. Erm RVP and Nasri, wonderfully short and selective memory Wenger has He's moaning because Chelsea have already played Man U twice, but the rest of the teams have to play them again, so it's unfair on poor Arsenal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I mean, money is unfair full stop, bit silly to complain about specifically when it's spent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 So who's Salah going on loan to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 See Wenger is whinging about the January transfer window again with regards to the Mata transfer. I'm sure he did this last season as well, it's been like this for ages, just accept it man. He's moaning about Chelsea selling players to rivals with Mata going to Man Utd. Erm RVP and Nasri, wonderfully short and selective memory Wenger has He's moaning because Chelsea have already played Man U twice, but the rest of the teams have to play them again, so it's unfair on poor Arsenal He can buy players if he wants, it's the same for everyone, well the ones with money. Such a whiney fecker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The Salah guy must be an absolute moron tbh. The players really do p*ss me off just as much. The guy is going to be a part time scrub on that team. Why settle for that. I know more money, I mean f*** me, you're going to be paid handsomely either way. Go somewhere to play you tit. This is Wilian to Tottenham all over again, as they screwed Spurs over royally, but at least Wilian plays now. He's going to the team who play in London, offer the biggest payday and the greatest potential for a medal. It would be hard for any young player to turn down. There should be restrictions in place to stop clubs acting like this, but I'm not about to blame the player. Liverpool are on the up, will definitely pay him well, and he is more likely to play regularly in the first team. This London s*** is peculiar to me it really is. These jokers train a coupe of hours a day. Go into London after, or on your days off for goodness sake. So over the top. If that was your son you would honestly advice him to go to Chelsea and end up like Sturridge did, or Demba Ba is now? I will never understand it. The guy is a moron. And the medal thing?! What point is that if you played the odd 15 mins here and there. I'd throw the thing away. Imagine being offered 2.3m a year or 5m a year. That might change your tune. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpet Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Just saw the detailed process of how Salah deal happened. f***ing hell, we are embarrassing. Extremely unprofessional by the clowns who negotiate the deals. Ok guys, I was the source the RAWK source during this whole thing. I didn't want to reveal myself cause I didn't want to get bombarded with PMs every couple of hours about him, but since this one is basically as good as over for us, there is no harm in pointing out some details about this transfer to let the RAWK universe know how much we f***ed up during this transfer as my source is as close to the player as you can get. First of all, let me tell you that I'm not a fan of the club overpaying by any stretch, I hate it when clubs like City or Chelsea pay over the top fees for the likes of Lescott or Shaun Wright Phillips cause that means the market is inflated. However, just because the market is inflated doesn't mean that there are some players out there who are worth a good chunk of money to be paid for. There is also a fine line between being too smart and being too smart for your own good, I didn't exactly followed the ins & outs of our other negotiation models with the other targets in the summer but there is a pattern developing of us missing out on first targets like Dempsey, Mkhitaryan, Costa, Willian and bar a miracle now, Salah. It is hard to properly judge the transfer committee plus I feel for the scouts who have their hard work cut out for when a club comes in and gets the players we have been following for months. Now we were following Salah closely since October, we sent a lot of scouts to Basel games, began negotiating in November and his agent met with Ayre in the West Ham game to discuss terms with them. We had a verbal agreement with Basel regarding everything and we quickly became Salah's favoured destination as he saw us as a club where he can grow, get a lot of 1st team action and become a world class player. I don't know what happened between Salah's agent and Ayre, but the impression that the club got from that meeting was that, in reality there is no way Salah is going to leave for anyone bar Liverpool and/or there are no real offers on the table for Basel bar us. When we got to sending Basel our opening offer, it was a laughable offer well below what was verbally agreed upon, think of Wenger 40 million plus one pound bid, this was even more laughable. Basel raised their as a result of being p*ssed off. We tried to up our offer but it was again well below what was previously agreed upon and Basel didn't want to lower their demands as they sensed that we were wasting their time. They even began courting other clubs that Salah is available. Milan & Inter thought that Basel's original demands were too high for them, Leverkusen, Wolfsburg & Monchengladbach were ready to pay but Salah didn't want to go to Germany. Basel tried to claim that Atletico was interested but it was a bluff by all accounts, however a host of other clubs wanted to be kept updated on the deal one of whom was Chelsea. Since we saw that Salah didn't want to go to the Bundesliga and with no other club offering Basel any offer, we assumed he'll stay there till the summer and we can re-open negotiations, but Newcastle offered Basel a good first offer and now him coming to us in the summer was in doubt if Basel & Newcastle agree a fee. That's why we came back with a much more improved offer, almost what was verbally agreed upon before the window even started. Salah's personal demands were also agreed previously so there was no problems with him & his agent, just us agreeing some minor details with Basel. Chelsea, who were updated on the deal, at last asked about his availability and Basel asked about 8 million more than what we were offering (they tried to fleece Chelsea and I'm sorry last night I got confused cause I misunderstood my source as telling me Chelsea offered 8 million more, which isn't true) but Chelsea really offered a couple of million more than us but with a lot of add ons that favour Basel heavily, we didn't even hesitate and backed off, not even matching their deal. The only thing stopping Salah from going to Chelsea is that he doesn't want to go there, full stop. Him & his advisers believe he won't get much playing time there and if it is in his hands, it is better to stay at Basel and wait till the summer to get his move, however Basel want to sell & get their money now and begin scouting their next target (who will also be from Egypt). There is a third club who asked for Salah's availability (my source won't tell me cause Salah doesn't want this to go public as he prefers to join that third club over Chelsea and doesn't want a repeat of the fiasco surrounding his negotiations with Liverpool) but like I said barring a miracle, most probably he won't be our player come the end of the window. What makes this irritating is that we wasted three months of scouting him, weeks of negotiations and then tried to lowball Basel and looked stupid at the end when we fell flat on our arses. Board wise, there have to be some questions asked about how good we are at negotiating some deals. It's fine though....we've managed to sign a commercial deal with Dunkin Donuts this window. That'll do for top 4 race. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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