Ashley17 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I don't understand the Sammy hatred. I mean, he's not a world beater by any means but I don't recall ever being disgusted by his performances. He's got a goal and an assist in both starts this season (against lowerl eague teams, admittedly). Would rather Marveaux but he's not even a sub so here we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Mick Lowes towing the club line on Radio Newcastle. He could tow a boat that fat fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Hope this Armstrong kid is given a cameo. He'll probably be played out of position, but nevertheless. He'll be our youngest ever debutant? Nope, Steve Watson was. He will be our youngest goalscorer though if he did score. Anyone know who our current youngest goalscorer is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The Sammy stick He's only 21, started a handful of games and Marveaux isn't remotely similar so I am not sure why people still bang on about players like Sammy or Obertan starting ahead of him. The fact he's "only 21 and started a handful of games" is why people are annoyed at his inclusion. He's never looked ready for the Premiership, maybe he's improved behind closed doors or something? Fuck knows. Either way if him being on the pitch and Marveaux not even being in the squad has anything to do with their footballing ability, and not down to other concerns, then Pardew is off his fucking tits. Marveaux wide left in a 4-3-3 would have been slightly less visible that Cabaye tonight. At least Sammy is positive, always wants the ball and tries to take people on. If Marveaux was playing he would have been in for Anita or Sissoko. Might as well moan about Sammy starting over MYM. Fucking depressing that a player born in 1997 (Armstrong) is making our bench mind Aye because Marveaux hasn't been a match winner playing on the wings before... I like Marveaux a lot but he isn't a wide player, he might have had the odd good game out there but will have had just as many where you forget he is even on the pitch. With Cabaye going he might get more games but I doubt they will be out wide. We really haven't seen enough of him there to decide this as a cast-iron certainty - this is what I was being told when I was saying he should be in the team ahead of Jonas for an entire season - I didn't buy it then and I don't buy it now. He might be better central but he's sat far too many games out when a much inferior player has featured ahead of him out wide. He never gets played there so I'd love to know how everyone's so certain he'll disappear. From what I have seen he doesn't have what it takes out wide, he is lovely on the ball, can spot and execute a fantastic pass but none of that makes him a wide player. The closest player I can liken him to who did work well out wide was Solano but he was so much more involved, had more ability to get away from a player despite not being massively quick and would get back and not leave the full back stranded. I struggle to think of a single part of Marveaux's game that makes me think he would work well out wide. Just my opinion obviously. I don't think Gouffran or Sissoko are wide players either, they still get played there. Really don't think there's only one position on the pitch for a player like Marveaux. They are both more involved in the games though. Both work hard and both have contributed their share of goals and assists. I would love us to set up with Marveaux being given a role where he can just drift in and out but I don't think we are really good enough for that. Cabaye was class because he would do all the things Marveaux could but would also get about the pitch and help control the midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The Sammy stick He's only 21, started a handful of games and Marveaux isn't remotely similar so I am not sure why people still bang on about players like Sammy or Obertan starting ahead of him. The fact he's "only 21 and started a handful of games" is why people are annoyed at his inclusion. He's never looked ready for the Premiership, maybe he's improved behind closed doors or something? Fuck knows. Either way if him being on the pitch and Marveaux not even being in the squad has anything to do with their footballing ability, and not down to other concerns, then Pardew is off his fucking tits. Marveaux wide left in a 4-3-3 would have been slightly less visible that Cabaye tonight. At least Sammy is positive, always wants the ball and tries to take people on. If Marveaux was playing he would have been in for Anita or Sissoko. Might as well moan about Sammy starting over MYM. Fucking depressing that a player born in 1997 (Armstrong) is making our bench mind Aye because Marveaux hasn't been a match winner playing on the wings before... I like Marveaux a lot but he isn't a wide player, he might have had the odd good game out there but will have had just as many where you forget he is even on the pitch. With Cabaye going he might get more games but I doubt they will be out wide. I've never really considered him a wide player either but I'd still have him out there ahead of the energetic but ultimately inexperienced and not very talented (by the Premier League's standards) Sammy Ameobi. I think his dissapearing man act is overplayed a little too, certainly when we consider his replacement. Sammy may have improved and I hope he has, I just cannot see it being anything other than a typical ungainly performance from him. Marveaux can go 80 minutes doing nothing and then stick an inch perfect ball to the back post, he has that quality, just not the graft that Pardew demands. On the other side of the coin Sammy may run straight into the full back 10 times but that time where it works, maybe even by fluke and he gets through then we have a very good chance. His persistence and willingness to attack a full back counts for a lot which is why I don't feel the same as those who are astounded/angry that he is starting. Obviously if he isn't fantastic now I will be wrong and Marveaux would have definitely been the better option.. Is anyone angry, I'm not keeping up. Personally I'm not even saying Marveaux should have played ahead of Sammy tonight, Marveaux has been that far away from the first team picture for so long Sammy is probably a better option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Mick Lowes towing the club line on Radio Newcastle. Did you expect any different? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The Sammy stick He's only 21, started a handful of games and Marveaux isn't remotely similar so I am not sure why people still bang on about players like Sammy or Obertan starting ahead of him. The fact he's "only 21 and started a handful of games" is why people are annoyed at his inclusion. He's never looked ready for the Premiership, maybe he's improved behind closed doors or something? Fuck knows. Either way if him being on the pitch and Marveaux not even being in the squad has anything to do with their footballing ability, and not down to other concerns, then Pardew is off his fucking tits. Marveaux wide left in a 4-3-3 would have been slightly less visible that Cabaye tonight. At least Sammy is positive, always wants the ball and tries to take people on. If Marveaux was playing he would have been in for Anita or Sissoko. Might as well moan about Sammy starting over MYM. Fucking depressing that a player born in 1997 (Armstrong) is making our bench mind Aye because Marveaux hasn't been a match winner playing on the wings before... I like Marveaux a lot but he isn't a wide player, he might have had the odd good game out there but will have had just as many where you forget he is even on the pitch. With Cabaye going he might get more games but I doubt they will be out wide. We really haven't seen enough of him there to decide this as a cast-iron certainty - this is what I was being told when I was saying he should be in the team ahead of Jonas for an entire season - I didn't buy it then and I don't buy it now. He might be better central but he's sat far too many games out when a much inferior player has featured ahead of him out wide. He never gets played there so I'd love to know how everyone's so certain he'll disappear. From what I have seen he doesn't have what it takes out wide, he is lovely on the ball, can spot and execute a fantastic pass but none of that makes him a wide player. The closest player I can liken him to who did work well out wide was Solano but he was so much more involved, had more ability to get away from a player despite not being massively quick and would get back and not leave the full back stranded. I struggle to think of a single part of Marveaux's game that makes me think he would work well out wide. Just my opinion obviously. I don't think Gouffran or Sissoko are wide players either, they still get played there. Really don't think there's only one position on the pitch for a player like Marveaux. They are both more involved in the games though. Both work hard and both have contributed their share of goals and assists. I would love us to set up with Marveaux being given a role where he can just drift in and out but I don't think we are really good enough for that. Cabaye was class because he would do all the things Marveaux could but would also get about the pitch and help control the midfield. So was Marveaux when he was involved, man. Find it very unfair that the guy gets called invisible when he hasn't been that way when given a run of games and is inexplicably nowhere near the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Taylor over Yanga-Mbiwa is a disgrace, otherwise it's fine. f*** all I would've changed, given how s**** the bench is. i do not mind taylor. But Yanga dropped for him is pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Fuck off Delia ya fat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Use match thread now please, gentlemen http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,95040.0.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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