Beren Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Is it safe yet? It's perfectly safe - we're far more focused on self-immolation to take it personally! Besides which we've been battered far more embarrassingly and on a fairly consistent basis at this point, sadly. Good post - agree with a lot of it, though I don't have as high hopes for De Jong as you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I think it was fair enough to believe Hughton was limited, as he's now showing with Norwich. What we didn't know is that he'd be replaced with Pardew. Which sort of backs up the 'devil you know' argument as well. I never really understand how his results with Norwich prove anything tbh. He doesn't exactly have much to work with there. Or am I missing something? Hughton is clearly a really nice guy but I guess it's safe to say that he's not a top level PL manager (nor is Pardew obviously). He has been given decent money and Norwich play horrible football. Neither are good enough for us. Also, the recent results are disgraceful but we are not getting relegated this season ffs. See, this bit is just not true I'm afraid. I've watched them more often than not this season just to see if this was actually made up or not and it's nonsense. They are trying to play football the right way every match with some limited players, last match for example carved West Ham open 3/4 times and just couldn't finish. This has been their problem all season. RVW has been a poor signing and yes you can blame Hughton for that, but who saw that coming? And they haven't really spent anymore money than anyone else around them btw. Yes it's not been a great season for them but to say they play horrible football is incorrect unless you are a fan of the shit Pardew offers up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 The decision to go 442 with a big guy and a quick guy showed his limited imagination, but he didn't have too many options. Which one of them is supposed to be quick? Cissé wouldn't get away from Williamson. I think Cissé was quick before he got upgraded to windows 8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 At least Hughton had the ability to motivate his players, there was some sort of pride in the performances of his team. Maybe he wasn't the long term answer, but I'd argue he was a shit load better at what he does than Pardew. The way we thumped opposition in the Championship AND Premier League under CH, it would never, ever happen under Pardew. If Barnsley came to SJP, he'd try and lock down the 1-0 lead. Not go on and murder them 6-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 At least Hughton had the ability to motivate his players, there was some sort of pride in the performances of his team. Maybe he wasn't the long term answer, but I'd argue he was a shit load better at what he does than Pardew. The way we thumped opposition in the Championship AND Premier League under CH, it would never, ever happen under Pardew. If Barnsley came to SJP, he'd try and lock down the 1-0 lead. Not go on and murder them 6-1. I think you've got a selective memory there mind. We didn't open up and hammer teams in the championship properly under CH until promotion was all but assured. We'd been a lot more cautious previously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Hughton isn't a good manager, tbh not many British managers are. Pardew is far worse though and that's the important factor here. Pardew is absolute shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 That was all a bit tl;dr I guess . One thing did strike me. It may just have even a quirk of the NBC coverage, but the contrast between the way the teams behaved while Kaboul was injured seemed marked. The Spurs players and coaches were focused, happy, involved and together - geeing each other up, pointing out things to work on, and engaging in animated discussions. The Newcastle players and coaches seemed disengaged and listless. Like I say, that may not have been the case, but it certainly seemed like that on camera. Said that at the time, loads of your lot went over the bench whereas our lot just stood around playing with their nobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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