The College Dropout Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 HBA is better than Raylor - fine and obvious. X player being more entertaining or talented than Y player and therefore he should play instead however, is a simplistic approach to the sport. Talent or footballing ability isn't the reason Hatem's no longer at our club. That's why I brought up Mata, he was in the same boat at Chelsea. Constantly bleating on about Raylor indicates a lack of intelligence. He's pretty inconsequential to Hatem Ben Arfa being at Hull. My point was that I'd rather watch HBA than Ryan Taylor. And what is the point of this statement? It's an obvious point that has little relevance to anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Dogs chase own tails...repeat... ad infinitum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 HBA is better than Raylor - fine and obvious. X player being more entertaining or talented than Y player and therefore he should play instead however, is a simplistic approach to the sport. Talent or footballing ability isn't the reason Hatem's no longer at our club. That's why I brought up Mata, he was in the same boat at Chelsea. Constantly bleating on about Raylor indicates a lack of intelligence. He's pretty inconsequential to Hatem Ben Arfa being at Hull. My point was that I'd rather watch HBA than Ryan Taylor. And what is the point of this statement? It's an obvious point that has little relevance to anything. I was referring to a much larger comment that I made on the chronicle website and to someone's oxymoronic response of 'oh my god your an idiot' You could have just gone back and read the OP like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Banished to France apparently. Won't play for Hull again and will be looking for a new club in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Lad's spent far more time in France than England since signing for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Lad's spent far more time in France than England since signing for us. No he hasn't! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He was so fucking great at one point, but now he's an utter joke. It's such a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Lad's spent far more time in France than England since signing for us. No he hasn't! You in panto mode already? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He was so f***ing great at one point, but now he's an utter joke. It's such a shame. He's still a pretty good footballer tbh. Always a different player to the rest on the pitch and that for me is enough to still want him here starting no matter what type of person he is outside. Players like him are few and he's been managed by some absolute shit managers as well (obviously he has himself to blame for a lot as well). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He must be an utter twat like. I mean, football players are by and large twats, but to be continually pinpointed by managers as a more powerful twat is quite something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He must be an utter t*** like. I mean, football players are by and large t***s, but to be continually pinpointed by managers as a more powerful t*** is quite something. He probably snaps at managers who play shit football and don't understand what it's really all about. He's a revolutionary that is misunderstood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He might not be a twat. I just think he's relied on his talent way too much and never really had that drive to get out of his comfort zone. I couldn't give a shit about him not tracking back, by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I think he lost the last bit of motivation and hope that he had when was kicked out by Pardew. I truly believe that IF he hadn't been dropped those times where he didn't deserve to he would have continued to show that he's worth having in the team every week for his offensive quality. But we know that Pardew prefers graft before skill. I genuinely think Hatem loved it here but he never really got the support or arm around his shoulder that was needed. Hatem isn't blameless, of course not. But he's been badly treated imo. Now he simply has no motivation or hunger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Twat or not, he's not on the pitch and unless he's massively negatively impacting upon the rest of the team, it shouldn't matter. Players are twats, if they're worth keeping despite being twats, then you keep them. We've had far too many nice, worthless grafters at NUFC over the years and it does my head in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Banished to France apparently. Won't play for Hull again and will be looking for a new club in January. Bloody hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He might not be a twat. I just think he's relied on his talent way too much and never really had that drive to get out of his comfort zone. I couldn't give a shit about him not tracking back, by the way. This is it like, at the end of the day there's no one who ever made the top grade in football who didn't push themselves as far and father than anyone else. Messi has "dropped off"* as his work rate and attitude have seemingly taken a nose dive. If Benny has the attitude he'd have been at the top, it's really that simple. *in relative terms before anyone starts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 They'll start, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He might not be a twat. I just think he's relied on his talent way too much and never really had that drive to get out of his comfort zone. I couldn't give a shit about him not tracking back, by the way. This is it like, at the end of the day there's no one who ever made the top grade in football who didn't push themselves as far and father than anyone else. Messi has "dropped off"* as his work rate and attitude have seemingly taken a nose dive. If Benny has the attitude he'd have been at the top, it's really that simple. *in relative terms before anyone starts lol, you'd rather have Ryan Taylor than Messi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I don't think anyone could argue that Messi's form (relative to his own insane standards) have dropped off. Now he's merely human. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I don't think anyone could argue that Messi's form (relative to his own insane standards) have dropped off. Now he's merely human. He's been class the last 3 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I don't think anyone could argue that Messi's form (relative to his own insane standards) have dropped off. Now he's merely human. He's been class the last 3 weeks. Aye? Like '08-'13 form level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 That isn't a loaded question, btw. I haven't seen him as much as I would've liked recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He's been class so far, but like all things it's far too early to tell. Read rumours he got back with his old trainer from Guardiola days to get back into shape, Not sure how true that is though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 That last year culminating in the world cup was hard to watch with Messi, I can't imagine what was going on with him strolling about the pitch looking barely interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 L’Equipe: Hatem Ben Arfa has returned to his native Paris where he is working with a fitness coach and searching for a new club #nufc Pardew said he was overweight and not fit. People said it was bullshit. What do said people have to say now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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