Guest firetotheworks Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Twat or not, he's not on the pitch and unless he's massively negatively impacting upon the rest of the team, it shouldn't matter. Players are twats, if they're worth keeping despite being twats, then you keep them. We've had far too many nice, worthless grafters at NUFC over the years and it does my head in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Banished to France apparently. Won't play for Hull again and will be looking for a new club in January. Bloody hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He might not be a twat. I just think he's relied on his talent way too much and never really had that drive to get out of his comfort zone. I couldn't give a shit about him not tracking back, by the way. This is it like, at the end of the day there's no one who ever made the top grade in football who didn't push themselves as far and father than anyone else. Messi has "dropped off"* as his work rate and attitude have seemingly taken a nose dive. If Benny has the attitude he'd have been at the top, it's really that simple. *in relative terms before anyone starts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 They'll start, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He might not be a twat. I just think he's relied on his talent way too much and never really had that drive to get out of his comfort zone. I couldn't give a shit about him not tracking back, by the way. This is it like, at the end of the day there's no one who ever made the top grade in football who didn't push themselves as far and father than anyone else. Messi has "dropped off"* as his work rate and attitude have seemingly taken a nose dive. If Benny has the attitude he'd have been at the top, it's really that simple. *in relative terms before anyone starts lol, you'd rather have Ryan Taylor than Messi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I don't think anyone could argue that Messi's form (relative to his own insane standards) have dropped off. Now he's merely human. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I don't think anyone could argue that Messi's form (relative to his own insane standards) have dropped off. Now he's merely human. He's been class the last 3 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I don't think anyone could argue that Messi's form (relative to his own insane standards) have dropped off. Now he's merely human. He's been class the last 3 weeks. Aye? Like '08-'13 form level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 That isn't a loaded question, btw. I haven't seen him as much as I would've liked recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He's been class so far, but like all things it's far too early to tell. Read rumours he got back with his old trainer from Guardiola days to get back into shape, Not sure how true that is though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 That last year culminating in the world cup was hard to watch with Messi, I can't imagine what was going on with him strolling about the pitch looking barely interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 L’Equipe: Hatem Ben Arfa has returned to his native Paris where he is working with a fitness coach and searching for a new club #nufc Pardew said he was overweight and not fit. People said it was bullshit. What do said people have to say now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Fuck off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Fuck off? You mean "I was wrong" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Working with a fitness coach doesn't mean he's fat. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Fuck off? You mean "I'm insufferable" FYP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He's a professional athlete in mid season, did you think he was going to go back to Paris and slob out on croissants and beer all day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He has no club so he's working with a fitness coach in the meantime to keep in shape? Pretty desperate stuff if you're using that to try and defend Pardew's decision to fine him and then send him out on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Needs to get a club in France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Or maybe Roma under Garcia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Wonder if Bielsa would want him at Marseille ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 bahahaha, still defending him. Jesus christ. Get your blinkers off ffs. edit: actually I'm not even getting into this. He'll retire early or end up in some shite league in the middle east, and people will still say he's the best http://weknowgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/seinfeld-gif.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 L’Equipe: Hatem Ben Arfa has returned to his native Paris where he is working with a fitness coach and searching for a new club #nufc Pardew said he was overweight and not fit. People said it was bullshit. What do said people have to say now? Because working with a fitness coach for the job that you do automatically means that you were unfit and overweight? Right oh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 bahahaha, still defending him. Jesus christ. Get your blinkers off ffs. There's nowt to defend in terms of the way that you're presenting it. All players generally work with fitness coaches when they're not playing, it's the done thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 bahahaha, still defending him. Jesus christ. Get your blinkers off ffs. edit: actually I'm not even getting into this. He'll retire early or end up in some shite league in the middle east, and people will still say he's the best http://weknowgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/seinfeld-gif.gif The way you presented your argument was completely pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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