sempuki Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hartlepool want him Should stay well clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hartlepool want him Should stay well clear. Have little choice, worth a gamble tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hartlepool want him Should stay well clear. Have little choice, worth a gamble tbh. They might take him because of the position they are in but he would generate too much adverse publicity. Be interesting to hear what Jeff Stelling thinks if it is true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 He's done his time so in that respect he deserves a chance, his problem is that he came across like a right bell end. If he believes he was innocent he's entitled not to apologise for the crime but I'm sure he could have found better words and sentiment to have used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Not signing him - SSN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Looks like Oldham are going to bite: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30671692 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Loads of publicity for the fat man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Didn't Oldham take Lee Hughes when he got released? Love a good felon like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He's done his time so in that respect he deserves a chance, his problem is that he came across like a right bell end. If he believes he was innocent he's entitled not to apologise for the crime but I'm sure he could have found better words and sentiment to have used. He hasn't done his time he has only served half of his sentence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 'No I don't want to leave! Let me back in! NOOOOOOOOO!' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He's done his time so in that respect he deserves a chance, his problem is that he came across like a right bell end. If he believes he was innocent he's entitled not to apologise for the crime but I'm sure he could have found better words and sentiment to have used. He hasn't done his time he has only served half of his sentence. all those who go on their holidays do not fulfill the alloted time , they all serve less for good behaviour, along with also depending on whether the jails need the space, is he any worse than a drunk driver knowing fine well he's over the top and killing someone in the process, then also being released early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He's done his time so in that respect he deserves a chance, his problem is that he came across like a right bell end. If he believes he was innocent he's entitled not to apologise for the crime but I'm sure he could have found better words and sentiment to have used. He hasn't done his time he has only served half of his sentence. all those who go on their holidays do not fulfill the alloted time , they all serve less for good behaviour, along with also depending on whether the jails need the space, is he any worse than a drunk driver knowing fine well he's over the top and killing someone in the process, then also being released early. If your question was directed at me then no he's no worse. Though the debate is probably in the premeditation of his act. I was merely highlighting he hasn't completed his sentence yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Forgot Oldham are Mike Ashley's other team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He's done his time so in that respect he deserves a chance, his problem is that he came across like a right bell end. If he believes he was innocent he's entitled not to apologise for the crime but I'm sure he could have found better words and sentiment to have used. He hasn't done his time he has only served half of his sentence. all those who go on their holidays do not fulfill the alloted time , they all serve less for good behaviour, along with also depending on whether the jails need the space, is he any worse than a drunk driver knowing fine well he's over the top and killing someone in the process, then also being released early. If your question was directed at me then no he's no worse. Though the debate is probably in the premeditation of his act. I was merely highlighting he hasn't completed his sentence yet. no, not aimed at you, just trying to explain to those not sure of the system that everything is not black & white (excuse the pun) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He's done his time so in that respect he deserves a chance, his problem is that he came across like a right bell end. If he believes he was innocent he's entitled not to apologise for the crime but I'm sure he could have found better words and sentiment to have used. He hasn't done his time he has only served half of his sentence. all those who go on their holidays do not fulfill the alloted time , they all serve less for good behaviour, along with also depending on whether the jails need the space, is he any worse than a drunk driver knowing fine well he's over the top and killing someone in the process, then also being released early. Hell yes. You get killed you're killed. Raped? Say hello to a lifetime of depression, PTSD, high risk of having contracted an STD, possible infertility, the public stigma, I can go on... Fact is rape is the only act known to man that can't be justified and if it happened to you or your sister/wife/daughter etc I'm sure your opinion would change. Evans shouldn't be anywhere near football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'd love to see you justify paedophilia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Lack of remorse or acknowledgment of wrongdoing plays a part for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Say Evans was a plumber, stock trader, green grocer, car salesman etc. Would he not be allowed to practice any of those professions after committing a crime and serving his sentence. He should be allowed back into football but then of course it's up to the individual club to employ him, again their own choice. If a club is willing to give him a 2nd chance they are to be commended in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Lack of remorse or acknowledgment of wrongdoing plays a part for me What if he didnt do it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Lack of remorse or acknowledgment of wrongdoing plays a part for me What if he didnt do it? That's never been denied, what's been denied is the rape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Say Evans was a plumber, stock trader, green grocer, car salesman etc. Would he not be allowed to practice any of those professions after committing a crime and serving his sentence. He should be allowed back into football but then of course it's up to the individual club to employ him, again their own choice. If a club is willing to give him a 2nd chance they are to be commended in my opinion. Actually he probably wouldn't. This isn't just any crime though it's the most heinous crime I can think of. I don't get how anybody's sticking up for a rapist TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 What I don't get is why he didn't just make a statement apologising for getting into such a situation where he was convicted of rape. He didn't have to apologise directly for raping her if he truly believes he didn't, but he could still apologise to her for creating a scenario she later (rightly or wrongly) considered to be rape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Say Evans was a plumber, stock trader, green grocer, car salesman etc. Would he not be allowed to practice any of those professions after committing a crime and serving his sentence. He should be allowed back into football but then of course it's up to the individual club to employ him, again their own choice. If a club is willing to give him a 2nd chance they are to be commended in my opinion. Actually he probably wouldn't. This isn't just any crime though it's the most heinous crime I can think of. I don't get how anybody's sticking up for a rapist TBH. What's the alternative bud, he pays for a mistake for the rest of his life? When is he allowed back into the fold of society so to speak. He's served his time at her majesty's pleasure so he's square with the house. You get a very short career as a footballer so why shouldn't he be allowed back to work as long as he fulfills the terms of his licence. Or Do we shun him, not allowing him gainful employment all down to a stupid drunken mistake? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 What I don't get is why he didn't just make a statement apologising for getting into such a situation where he was convicted of rape. He didn't have to apologise directly for raping her if he truly believes he didn't, but he could still apologise to her for creating a scenario she later (rightly or wrongly) considered to be rape. That's a solid point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The victim has had to change identities 5 times since it happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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