Fugazi Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 http://srslycute.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/tumblr_mozlwp3oBT1rdtxcyo1_500.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30151774 Sheffield United co-chairman Jim Phipps says he is "angry" they have been forced to deny convicted rapist Ched Evans the chance to train at the club. The Blades retracted the offer to Evans after heavy criticism and high-profile club supporters speaking out. "I'm angry that we are not able to get a chance to do for this footballer what should be done," Phipps said. "The influence of mob-like behaviour has made it difficult to take the simple step of allowing Ched to train." The American added: "I'm upset that we are not able to do what we wanted to do. "But I acknowledge that my view is not the only view. My principles and the board's principles are not the only thing that matter. "I will acknowledge that our decision to not let Ched train is probably a decision that will make it harder for him to get on with his football career in the immediate future. "The people who believe that Ched should be punished for the rest of his life might call that a victory. I think of it as a defeat for the principle that punishment under the justice system should be left to those that are authorised by law." "Footballers must be treated the same way as everybody else before the law. They should have a right to rehabilitation like everybody else does. "Ched was convicted and he has served his sentence. He now has a right and an obligation to go about making a livelihood." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 It's a fair statement and I pretty much agree with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hartlepool want him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hartlepool want him Should stay well clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hartlepool want him Should stay well clear. Have little choice, worth a gamble tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hartlepool want him Should stay well clear. Have little choice, worth a gamble tbh. They might take him because of the position they are in but he would generate too much adverse publicity. Be interesting to hear what Jeff Stelling thinks if it is true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 He's done his time so in that respect he deserves a chance, his problem is that he came across like a right bell end. If he believes he was innocent he's entitled not to apologise for the crime but I'm sure he could have found better words and sentiment to have used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Not signing him - SSN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Looks like Oldham are going to bite: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30671692 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Loads of publicity for the fat man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Didn't Oldham take Lee Hughes when he got released? Love a good felon like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He's done his time so in that respect he deserves a chance, his problem is that he came across like a right bell end. If he believes he was innocent he's entitled not to apologise for the crime but I'm sure he could have found better words and sentiment to have used. He hasn't done his time he has only served half of his sentence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 'No I don't want to leave! Let me back in! NOOOOOOOOO!' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He's done his time so in that respect he deserves a chance, his problem is that he came across like a right bell end. If he believes he was innocent he's entitled not to apologise for the crime but I'm sure he could have found better words and sentiment to have used. He hasn't done his time he has only served half of his sentence. all those who go on their holidays do not fulfill the alloted time , they all serve less for good behaviour, along with also depending on whether the jails need the space, is he any worse than a drunk driver knowing fine well he's over the top and killing someone in the process, then also being released early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He's done his time so in that respect he deserves a chance, his problem is that he came across like a right bell end. If he believes he was innocent he's entitled not to apologise for the crime but I'm sure he could have found better words and sentiment to have used. He hasn't done his time he has only served half of his sentence. all those who go on their holidays do not fulfill the alloted time , they all serve less for good behaviour, along with also depending on whether the jails need the space, is he any worse than a drunk driver knowing fine well he's over the top and killing someone in the process, then also being released early. If your question was directed at me then no he's no worse. Though the debate is probably in the premeditation of his act. I was merely highlighting he hasn't completed his sentence yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Forgot Oldham are Mike Ashley's other team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He's done his time so in that respect he deserves a chance, his problem is that he came across like a right bell end. If he believes he was innocent he's entitled not to apologise for the crime but I'm sure he could have found better words and sentiment to have used. He hasn't done his time he has only served half of his sentence. all those who go on their holidays do not fulfill the alloted time , they all serve less for good behaviour, along with also depending on whether the jails need the space, is he any worse than a drunk driver knowing fine well he's over the top and killing someone in the process, then also being released early. If your question was directed at me then no he's no worse. Though the debate is probably in the premeditation of his act. I was merely highlighting he hasn't completed his sentence yet. no, not aimed at you, just trying to explain to those not sure of the system that everything is not black & white (excuse the pun) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 He's done his time so in that respect he deserves a chance, his problem is that he came across like a right bell end. If he believes he was innocent he's entitled not to apologise for the crime but I'm sure he could have found better words and sentiment to have used. He hasn't done his time he has only served half of his sentence. all those who go on their holidays do not fulfill the alloted time , they all serve less for good behaviour, along with also depending on whether the jails need the space, is he any worse than a drunk driver knowing fine well he's over the top and killing someone in the process, then also being released early. Hell yes. You get killed you're killed. Raped? Say hello to a lifetime of depression, PTSD, high risk of having contracted an STD, possible infertility, the public stigma, I can go on... Fact is rape is the only act known to man that can't be justified and if it happened to you or your sister/wife/daughter etc I'm sure your opinion would change. Evans shouldn't be anywhere near football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'd love to see you justify paedophilia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Lack of remorse or acknowledgment of wrongdoing plays a part for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Say Evans was a plumber, stock trader, green grocer, car salesman etc. Would he not be allowed to practice any of those professions after committing a crime and serving his sentence. He should be allowed back into football but then of course it's up to the individual club to employ him, again their own choice. If a club is willing to give him a 2nd chance they are to be commended in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Lack of remorse or acknowledgment of wrongdoing plays a part for me What if he didnt do it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Lack of remorse or acknowledgment of wrongdoing plays a part for me What if he didnt do it? That's never been denied, what's been denied is the rape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Say Evans was a plumber, stock trader, green grocer, car salesman etc. Would he not be allowed to practice any of those professions after committing a crime and serving his sentence. He should be allowed back into football but then of course it's up to the individual club to employ him, again their own choice. If a club is willing to give him a 2nd chance they are to be commended in my opinion. Actually he probably wouldn't. This isn't just any crime though it's the most heinous crime I can think of. I don't get how anybody's sticking up for a rapist TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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