Aiston Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Shelvey is being far too overrated here. He's not even in good form for us either, never mind the other good reasons why he shouldn't be included in the England squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I'd go as far to say that Hayden should be getting called up before Lewis Cook. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Hayden's lucky to be in our side let alone an England call-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Hope we batter you guys on Tuesday so Southgate wakes up. Really want England to do well next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Aye although i think Shelvey would be an asset to England, he hasn't really done enough to earn a call up. Not that i'm saying the others have mind as i haven't seen enough of them and i do think Southgate is crap. Shelvey comes with baggage so he's gona have to do a hell of a lot more to force a call up. I want to see more goals for a start, someone of his ability should be getting close to 10 goals a season IMO, and probably more assists aswell but that might prove difficult considering how shit our strikers are. Oh yeah and cutting out the petulant red cards might help his cause aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Hayden's lucky to be in our side let alone an England call-up. And Lewis Cook doesn't get into the Bournemouth side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Hope we batter you guys on Tuesday so Southgate wakes up. Really want England to do well next year. A battering from a mediocre Brazil side won't do anything especially as we'll have a virtual 3rd choice line-up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 He's a regular in the Under 21s though and as with the others, all helps give them the experience for when in 2-3 years time they are there on merit, they know what it's all about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I don't actually mind Southgate. It's not pretty but we look like a team, and we have genuine goal threats in Kane, Alli & Rashford. I think we'll go to the Quarters but think we'll be competitive against the elite and organised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Hope we batter you guys on Tuesday so Southgate wakes up. Really want England to do well next year. A battering from a mediocre Brazil side won't do anything especially as we'll have a virtual 3rd choice line-up Mediocre? Or best team in the world right now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just seen the England side. Jesus. Is everyone injured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 He's a regular in the Under 21s though and as with the others, all helps give them the experience for when in 2-3 years time they are there on merit, they know what it's all about. He only made his debut for the under 21s about 2 months ago so not that much of a regular Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I assumed so based on the U20 World Cup where he was captain. Point stands, no harm at all putting people like him in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I assumed so based on the U20 World Cup where he was captain. Point stands, no harm at all putting people like him in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 No idea why there's online outrage over no Shelvey, like. He's nowhere near the England squad, partly because he's consistently a letdown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Pretty certain Venables included Rio Ferdinand in the pre-Euro 1996 squad even though he'd just made his West Ham debut a few months earlier so that he could get a taste of it. Much better than picking players we've seen over and over again who won't go to the World Cup anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 There's no outrage if yous read like, it's utter bewilderment of his selections. 3 defensive midfielders, 2 of which are completely pointless, and then calling up Lewis Cook for no reason at all. He's 'trying something different' though so it's sound. Jake Livermore is the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 There's no outrage if yous read like, it's utter bewilderment of his selections. 3 defensive midfielders, 2 of which are completely pointless, and then calling up Lewis Cook for no reason at all. He's 'trying something different' though so it's sound. Jake Livermore is the future. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Hope we batter you guys on Tuesday so Southgate wakes up. Really want England to do well next year. A battering from a mediocre Brazil side won't do anything especially as we'll have a virtual 3rd choice line-up Mediocre? Or best team in the world right now? We've just played the best team in the world, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 There's no outrage if yous read like, it's utter bewilderment of his selections. 3 defensive midfielders, 2 of which are completely pointless, and then calling up Lewis Cook for no reason at all. He's 'trying something different' though so it's sound. Jake Livermore is the future. Jake Livermore is 27? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Hope we batter you guys on Tuesday so Southgate wakes up. Really want England to do well next year. A battering from a mediocre Brazil side won't do anything especially as we'll have a virtual 3rd choice line-up Mediocre? Or best team in the world right now? We've just played the best team in the world, yes. There's three of them who have been dominant on the international stage since 2016. Germany, Brazil and Spain. They're above everyone else at the moment and I say this despite Germany not having really played anyone of note except France in the Euros where they lost. While Spain have beaten Italy, Belgium and France convincingly and Brazil demolished everyone in the qualifiers after Tite took over. At the moment I'd probably rank Spain as the best team, followed by Brazil and then Germany in third. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 7-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Hope we batter you guys on Tuesday so Southgate wakes up. Really want England to do well next year. We wouldn't do well even if Guardiola or Pochettino had the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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