Aleksandar Mitrović

[samptime29]

So what happens if we don't sell him and no new striker comes in?

 

Will he still be frozen out?

[hoppaz]

Yup or we loan him out wait till he has a good World Cup in the summer and then get loads more money for him.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Rafa's not daft like.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

So what happens if we don't sell him and no new striker comes in?

 

Will he still be frozen out?

 

My guess would be yes.

[Footsoldier]

So Rafa doesn't want to sell mitrovic because he'll improve another team which probably has much better forwards than we have. But he doesn't need him to help save a sinking ship here because he doesn't think he's good enough. When our options are a joke. So he won't sell him to buy unless its abroad as half the league are a few losses off a relegation spot and a  safe club  don't need him.

 

The logic escapes me.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

So Rafa doesn't want to sell mitrovic because he'll improve another team which probably has much better forwards than we have. But he doesn't need him to help save a sinking ship here because he doesn't think he's good enough. When our options are a joke. So he won't sell him to buy unless its abroad as half the league are a few losses off a relegation spot and a  safe club  don't need him.

 

The logic escapes me.

 

Yup.

 

Not a clue what Mitro has done, but he’s very clearly done something to irk Rafa.

[Guest neesy111]

May rafa might be using not selling Mitrovic as a way to get back at the hierarchy at the club?

[Guest taps01]

So Rafa doesn't want to sell mitrovic because he'll improve another team which probably has much better forwards than we have. But he doesn't need him to help save a sinking ship here because he doesn't think he's good enough. When our options are a joke. So he won't sell him to buy unless its abroad as half the league are a few losses off a relegation spot and a  safe club  don't need him.

 

The logic escapes me.

 

Brightons centre forward options are hardly better than ours.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

May rafa might be using not selling Mitrovic as a way to get back at the hierarchy at the club?

 

They have the ultimate power to sell Mitro from under his nose, if they wanted to.

[Guest firetotheworks]

So Rafa doesn't want to sell mitrovic because he'll improve another team which probably has much better forwards than we have. But he doesn't need him to help save a sinking ship here because he doesn't think he's good enough. When our options are a joke. So he won't sell him to buy unless its abroad as half the league are a few losses off a relegation spot and a  safe club  don't need him.

 

The logic escapes me.

 

Yup.

 

Not a clue what Mitro has done, but he’s very clearly done something to irk Rafa.

Good/bad is a bit of a basic way to look at it. I think it's much more likely that Rafa thinks he's unsuitable for us, but could be suitable to Brighton because of the way they play. Mitrovic simply isn't good enough for us to change the way we play to suit someone who's let us down time and time again with sending offs and suspensions - which is obviously the thing that's irked Rafa.

 

[Heron]

Not every player fits every team like so it's not that illogical. Rafa wants someone he can rely and trust to bring others into the game and not go off sulking when he doesn't get his own way. Hence Joselu.

 

That being said I do think Mitro deserves a fairer crack at the whip, but expect that Rafa is also right in his judgement.

 

Why would we sell to anyone in the bottom 11. That goes for Shelvey too who has been rumoured away. Seems to me that it's as much trying to turn people's heads as owt else.

[Guest neesy111]

May rafa might be using not selling Mitrovic as a way to get back at the hierarchy at the club?

 

They have the ultimate power to sell Mitro from under his nose, if they wanted to.

 

Ofcourse but would they risk it?

[The College Dropout]

It’s the best thing for the club but I don’t like it.

 

Let the lad move and get on with his career. Even if it is to Brighton. If he’s not good enough for us let him go.

 

But obviously, I get it. 

 

[Footsoldier]

If Rafa doesn't rate him he should sell him as he's no help to us. If he can't help us, how can he help another team?

 

If Rafa rates him but has his knickers in a twist about something he's done then he should get over it. We need all the help we can get.

[hoppaz]

Mitro doesnt help himself mind. In the cup when we got beat 3-2 off Forrest when he scored he turned to the bench with a shush and I am not sure if that was his last game/start. You will see his actions on the highlights video.

[TRon]

So Rafa doesn't want to sell mitrovic because he'll improve another team which probably has much better forwards than we have. But he doesn't need him to help save a sinking ship here because he doesn't think he's good enough. When our options are a joke. So he won't sell him to buy unless its abroad as half the league are a few losses off a relegation spot and a  safe club  don't need him.

 

The logic escapes me.

 

More likely he realises that we aren't going to be getting a new striker through the door, so he's talking up Mitro so he can use him for the rest of the season.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

So Rafa doesn't want to sell mitrovic because he'll improve another team which probably has much better forwards than we have. But he doesn't need him to help save a sinking ship here because he doesn't think he's good enough. When our options are a joke. So he won't sell him to buy unless its abroad as half the league are a few losses off a relegation spot and a  safe club  don't need him.

 

The logic escapes me.

 

Yup.

 

Not a clue what Mitro has done, but he’s very clearly done something to irk Rafa.

Good/bad is a bit of a basic way to look at it. I think it's much more likely that Rafa thinks he's unsuitable for us, but could be suitable to Brighton because of the way they play. Mitrovic simply isn't good enough for us to change the way we play to suit someone who's let us down time and time again with sending offs and suspensions - which is obviously the thing that's irked Rafa.

 

I see this argument all the time - which would make sense if we didn’t persist on playing Joselu.If Mitro doesn’t fit our system, then Joselu certainly doesn’t either.

 

I’m sure someone will point to Mitro’s disciplinary record now - so I’ll answer that anyway... when was he last sent off in a game? It’s a complete myth that we’ll go down to 10 men with him in the side because he’s not been sent off in recent times.

 

If anything, Mitro would suit our system more with a bit of physicality in his game allowing players like Murphy the chance to get close to him. Whereas Joselu either loses it or taps it to nobody.

 

 

[TRon]

Mitro doesnt help himself mind. In the cup when we got beat 3-2 off Forrest when he scored he turned to the bench with a shush and I am not sure if that was his last game/start. You will see his actions on the highlights video.

 

That was daft but don't think Rafa's that petty. If he's not playing him it's for other reasons like not training properly or failing to follow instructions.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

 

Similar quote to what is already out there but also confirms Shelvey to West Ham is a none starter.

[mrmojorisin75]

Can't agree with Rafa here mind. He needs money to sign better players than we've got so selling one he never plays for anything approaching a decent fee seems like something he should be doing. Shelvey argument is different as he's actually playing

[Footsoldier]

I have no problem if Mitrovic is not training or being disruptive or anything that means he won't help us on the field. If there is a legitimate reason for not picking him I wish Rafa would come out and tell us. The situation can't be any worse than it is.

 

Then I'll accept the only options are joselu and gayle and you can stick a fork in us.

[Heron]

If Rafa doesn't rate him he should sell him as he's no help to us. If he can't help us, how can he help another team?

 

If Rafa rates him but has his knickers in a twist about something he's done then he should get over it. We need all the help we can get.

Because in another team he might be effective. To use a cliche "there is no I in Team" so why would Rafa play him in his team if he is showing that he is more bothered about getting his own way. Other clubs or sides might adjust their play to suit him but we're not gonna do that. Therefore, it is totally logical not to sell to a fellow relegation candidate.

[Guest firetotheworks]

 

 

So Rafa doesn't want to sell mitrovic because he'll improve another team which probably has much better forwards than we have. But he doesn't need him to help save a sinking ship here because he doesn't think he's good enough. When our options are a joke. So he won't sell him to buy unless its abroad as half the league are a few losses off a relegation spot and a  safe club  don't need him.

 

The logic escapes me.

 

Yup.

 

Not a clue what Mitro has done, but he’s very clearly done something to irk Rafa.

Good/bad is a bit of a basic way to look at it. I think it's much more likely that Rafa thinks he's unsuitable for us, but could be suitable to Brighton because of the way they play. Mitrovic simply isn't good enough for us to change the way we play to suit someone who's let us down time and time again with sending offs and suspensions - which is obviously the thing that's irked Rafa.

 

I see this argument all the time - which would make sense if we didn’t persist on playing Joselu.If Mitro doesn’t fit our system, then Joselu certainly doesn’t either.

 

I’m sure someone will point to Mitro’s disciplinary record now - so I’ll answer that anyway... when was he last sent off in a game? It’s a complete myth that we’ll go down to 10 men with him in the side because he’s not been sent off in recent times.

 

If anything, Mitro would suit our system more with a bit of physicality in his game allowing players like Murphy the chance to get close to him. Whereas Joselu either loses it or taps it to nobody.

 

Because Joselu doesn't get himself sent off and suspended and does as he's told. Whether you agree with Rafa on that is your choice, but I do. If he was good enough/suitable enough for us to put up with it, I'd agree, but he just isn't. The discipline argument is a completely valid argument, like. Not getting sent off during the odd 10 minute cameo isn't anything to hang your hat on and his disciplinary record remains a joke. Whatever argument for him playing is negated by that for me.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aleksandar-mitrovic/ausfaelle/spieler/51152

 

[Footsoldier]

I'd agree if out style of play was effective. But come on. Really you are making that argument that he doesn't fit our style of play? What style is that?

[TRon]

Can't agree with Rafa here mind. He needs money to sign better players than we've got so selling one he never plays for anything approaching a decent fee seems like something he should be doing. Shelvey argument is different as he's actually playing

 

Firstly, we haven't been offered anything approaching a decent fee for Mitro, secondly, I'm pretty sure he'd have no problem selling if he thought we were definitely going to get a replacement HE asked for. Not some 4th option on the list for £6m.