Guest ElCid Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Could it be lack of personnel or even lack of trust in personnel? I do actually think that's a part of it especially after January but the same players are getting results away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Could it be lack of personnel or even lack of trust in personnel? It's definitely a factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Could it be lack of personnel or even lack of trust in personnel? It's one of the problems, we are hampered by injuries to Hayden and Yedlin and all in all our squad is nowhere near as good as many seem to think it is. I think the players are also still very nervous and apprehensive when playing at home in front of 50,000 moans and groans at every single misplaced pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Thing is Mick I would agree but it's not a one off and that's the problem. The away tactics are superb and exactly what is required but they're not working at home and haven't been in a fair portion of games either. The one thing I totally agree is that he was shafted in January. The operation of a number ten at home is not working but is still being persisted with. We look totally clueless at home and there has to be a reason for that as the same players are getting results away even with the likes of Colback and gouffran amongst others playing. You need to be on the front foot at home and not playing the same counter attacking game. It works away as teams are more inclined to be attacking leaving space for the ball over the top to play in the likes of Gayle but it then becomes an issue at home as teams are sitting deeper and that option is more limited and actually becomes a hindrance as the ball just comes straight back. Our issues at home are not as simple as tactics, before Saturday we've had an average of 59% possession which doesn't suggest that we just hoof it, like we did yesterday. Our average possession figure suggests that we're a team that is patient in the build up. Our previous 4 home defeats have seen us have 65%, 68%, 66% and 64%. Saturday was a one off in that respect and the only time we've been taken apart at home this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Could it be lack of personnel or even lack of trust in personnel? It's one of the problems, we are hampered by injuries to Hayden and Yedlin and all in all our squad is nowhere near as good as many seem to think it is. I think the players are also still very nervous and apprehensive when playing at home in front of 50,000 moans and groans at every single misplaced pass. Agreed, look at the difference between the first and second half against Bristol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Could it be lack of personnel or even lack of trust in personnel? It's one of the problems, we are hampered by injuries to Hayden and Yedlin and all in all our squad is nowhere near as good as many seem to think it is. I think the players are also still very nervous and apprehensive when playing at home in front of 50,000 moans and groans at every single misplaced pass. Don't buy that and if it is the case then the ones who are should be transferred as soon as possible out of the club. I watched the Barcelona game the other day and before the unreal last few minutes there were a few moans when even Messi misplaced a pass it happens at every ground when things are not going right. It's up to the team to get the crowd going at times like it was during the Keegan and Robson years. The fact that the fat c*** of an owner has nearly totally decimated the club doesn't help mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Thing is Mick I would agree but it's not a one off and that's the problem. The away tactics are superb and exactly what is required but they're not working at home and haven't been in a fair portion of games either. The one thing I totally agree is that he was shafted in January. The operation of a number ten at home is not working but is still being persisted with. We look totally clueless at home and there has to be a reason for that as the same players are getting results away even with the likes of Colback and gouffran amongst others playing. You need to be on the front foot at home and not playing the same counter attacking game. It works away as teams are more inclined to be attacking leaving space for the ball over the top to play in the likes of Gayle but it then becomes an issue at home as teams are sitting deeper and that option is more limited and actually becomes a hindrance as the ball just comes straight back. Our issues at home are not as simple as tactics, before Saturday we've had an average of 59% possession which doesn't suggest that we just hoof it, like we did yesterday. Our average possession figure suggests that we're a team that is patient in the build up. Our previous 4 home defeats have seen us have 65%, 68%, 66% and 64%. Saturday was a one off in that respect and the only time we've been taken apart at home this season. Our possession at home is mainly playing sideway balls between the back 4 and away teams sitting deeper will allow you that but totally different away when teams are on top of you. We're not going to agree though which is fine and hopefully we will be still ok at the end of the season with Rafa still in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I've come to the conclusion his strength isn't league management. Too cautious. Over a 38 league season he's only over managed 80 points or more once. A minimum of 12 losses or draws. Certainly the Liverpool team didn't win the title due to too many home draws. But we will get promoted. If Ashley can show some ambition over the next few years we will become a top 8 side and with Rafa in charge - we should really grab some silverware. Can't see Ashley matching the ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 :lol: oh Alan Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 'I've come to the conclusion his strength isn't league management.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippity Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I think Anita could be in midfield in our next game. Anita is a better midfielder than he is a rightback...and he's a better rightback than Colback is a midfielder so aye, I'd go for that. It's a bit 'would you prefer one kick in the bollocks or two?' but it is what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I've come to the conclusion his strength isn't league management. Too cautious. Over a 38 league season he's only over managed 80 points or more once. A minimum of 12 losses or draws. Certainly the Liverpool team didn't win the title due to too many home draws. But we will get promoted. If Ashley can show some ambition over the next few years we will become a top 8 side and with Rafa in charge - we should really grab some silverware. Can't see Ashley matching the ambition. I wonder who won him the two league titles in Spain with a club that wasn't one of the big 2? He didn't win it once which you could put down as a fluke but you don't usually fluke your way to two titles. I guess he could have treated the league season as a cup competition though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I think Anita could be in midfield in our next game. Anita is a better midfielder than he is a rightback...and he's a better rightback than Colback is a midfielder so aye, I'd go for that. It's a bit 'would you prefer one kick in the bollocks or two?' but it is what it is. No way. He's a terrible midfielder and an ok right back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I think Anita could be in midfield in our next game. Anita is a better midfielder than he is a rightback...and he's a better rightback than Colback is a midfielder so aye, I'd go for that. It's a bit 'would you prefer one kick in the bollocks or two?' but it is what it is. No way. He's a terrible midfielder and an ok right back Better than Colback and more suited to Shelvey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 My only problem is that he's persisting with colback in midfield. I know the options are limited, but Diame has played better in a deeper role than in #10 for a while now so why not kill two birds with one rock? Its not like colback is any good at defending Also shows that the decision to send Saivet out on loan was pretty stupid. No doubt in my mind that he wouldve been very useful in this league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Yeah, I do have to wonder about the colback decisions. Surely he can see how shoit he is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Wish we'd at least try 4-4-2 at home. Diame or Hayden with Shelvey in the middle and Gayle upfront with the Murph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Wish we'd at least try 4-4-2 at home. Diame or Hayden with Shelvey in the middle and Gayle upfront with the Murph. not gonna happen though is it?, too much of a one directional manager, not willing to change his outlook. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Wish we'd at least try 4-4-2 at home. Diame or Hayden with Shelvey in the middle and Gayle upfront with the Murph. not gonna happen though is it?, too much of a one directional manager, not willing to change his outlook. Nah, I don't think he's one dimensional but more meticulous. I don't think he'll try anything else as a base formation until he's happy that the players know their roles and duties in that formation perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Wish we'd at least try 4-4-2 at home. Diame or Hayden with Shelvey in the middle and Gayle upfront with the Murph. not gonna happen though is it?, too much of a one directional manager, not willing to change his outlook. Nah, I don't think he's one dimensional but more meticulous. I don't think he'll try anything else as a base formation until he's happy that the players know their roles and duties in that formation perfectly. He's very one dimentional.its been like this all season.it wont change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Well first we should decide if he's directional, dimensional or dimentional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 This isn't his league. Same way that you've got championship managers who ace it consistently but can't hack it at the next tier. Hopefully we'll get promoted and he'll be back in his element where he belongs.. ...hopefully still with us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Except people don't. Strawmantastic. People take exception to daft comments by our quasi-WUM pal Chris and others who claim were likely to blow it. We have a squad with marginal quality above championship league standard, a top manager who's juggling that with underinvestment in January and yes sometimes a lack of dynamism due to tactics and a mix of those factors. We're top 6 points ahead of third and 9 games left - perfectly fine to take issue with those overly criticising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 We get 9 points in our next 3 games and people will calm again. Fulham are a decent side and we have glaring weaknesses in the team, but we will be fine Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Couldn't have a better game than Birmingham to sort it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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