Guest Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 He's started one game in dokeys and look fine. Scored a goal that was probably unfairly chalked off and you're focusing on him missing a good chance to berate him? Howay man His finishing is good, that's never been an issue. Him missing one good chance isn't evidence of him being s**** or that he will consistently be missing sitters. At this level, since his initial first season where he was an unknown quantity and mainly a supersub, he's not exactly pulled up many trees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 He's started one game in dokeys and look fine. Scored a goal that was probably unfairly chalked off and you're focusing on him missing a good chance to berate him? Howay man His finishing is good, that's never been an issue. Him missing one good chance isn't evidence of him being s**** or that he will consistently be missing sitters. Saying he "didn't do much" is hardly berating him like mate. Saying he's worse than Joselu is though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Think the words I used was 'he didn't do much'. And he didn't. If he had scored we would have drew the match 1-1. The linesman decided he didn't score so he didn't. We don't make these decisions. Gayle had the chance to rectify it as I just said, and he failed to take it. That's nonsense like, your criticism is with Gayle, not the officials. To me, if the officials decide a goal is offside, I move on and so should the player involved. Gayle had 90 minutes to score a goal deemed legitimate, and he didn't, regardless of whether you view his goal on or offside. Therefore my original post of 'didn't do much' is perfectly valid. Because he didn't do much, did he? Care to elaborate Greg? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 It's not as simple as he had 90 minutes to score and didn't so he didn't do much. Football doesn't work like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 He's started one game in dokeys and look fine. Scored a goal that was probably unfairly chalked off and you're focusing on him missing a good chance to berate him? Howay man His finishing is good, that's never been an issue. Him missing one good chance isn't evidence of him being s**** or that he will consistently be missing sitters. Saying he "didn't do much" is hardly berating him like mate. Saying he's worse than Joselu is though I prefer Joselu in the team aye, as shown today he wins things in the air and creates possession for us in the opponents half. Gayle doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 He's started one game in dokeys and look fine. Scored a goal that was probably unfairly chalked off and you're focusing on him missing a good chance to berate him? Howay man His finishing is good, that's never been an issue. Him missing one good chance isn't evidence of him being s**** or that he will consistently be missing sitters. Saying he "didn't do much" is hardly berating him like mate. You said he's our 3rd choice striker. Your whole argument is quite clearly based around criticising him too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Think the words I used was 'he didn't do much'. And he didn't. If he had scored we would have drew the match 1-1. The linesman decided he didn't score so he didn't. We don't make these decisions. Gayle had the chance to rectify it as I just said, and he failed to take it. That's nonsense like, your criticism is with Gayle, not the officials. To me, if the officials decide a goal is offside, I move on and so should the player involved. Gayle had 90 minutes to score a goal deemed legitimate, and he didn't, regardless of whether you view his goal on or offside. Therefore my original post of 'didn't do much' is perfectly valid. Because he didn't do much, did he? Fucking hell. So because the ref disallowed his perfectly fine goal, that means it didn't happen and it's Gayle's fault. Flawless logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 He's started one game in dokeys and look fine. Scored a goal that was probably unfairly chalked off and you're focusing on him missing a good chance to berate him? Howay man His finishing is good, that's never been an issue. Him missing one good chance isn't evidence of him being s**** or that he will consistently be missing sitters. Saying he "didn't do much" is hardly berating him like mate. Saying he's worse than Joselu is though I prefer Joselu in the team aye, as shown today he wins things in the air and creates possession for us in the opponents half. Gayle doesn't. Aye but Gayle actually looks like he might score, which is the point of football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 He's started one game in dokeys and look fine. Scored a goal that was probably unfairly chalked off and you're focusing on him missing a good chance to berate him? Howay man His finishing is good, that's never been an issue. Him missing one good chance isn't evidence of him being s**** or that he will consistently be missing sitters. Saying he "didn't do much" is hardly berating him like mate. Saying he's worse than Joselu is though I prefer Joselu in the team aye, as shown today he wins things in the air and creates possession for us in the opponents half. Gayle doesn't. Aye but Gayle actually looks like he might score, which is the point of football Needs a target man next to him to look at all useful though. I'd sooner see the Mitrovic/Perez partnership given a chance. There's chemistry there and they are balanced as a pairing. Doubt we'll keep playing two up top so reverting back to 4231, Gayle becomes totally ineffective unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Looked sharp as anything for the first 30 minutes or so then understandably got tired and completely drifted out of the game. The fact he still looked more effective than Joselu even when he barely moved is quite a damning indictment of our current strikeforce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 He's started one game in dokeys and look fine. Scored a goal that was probably unfairly chalked off and you're focusing on him missing a good chance to berate him? Howay man His finishing is good, that's never been an issue. Him missing one good chance isn't evidence of him being s**** or that he will consistently be missing sitters. Saying he "didn't do much" is hardly berating him like mate. You said he's our 3rd choice striker. Your whole argument is quite clearly based around criticising him too. Well yeah I am criticising him because I don't think he does enough. Same as Mitrovic, same as Joselu, same as Perez. Not sure why people are so quick to defend Gayle and not the others as much. Just reinstating some balance to the N-O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 People go on about the Perez Mitrovic partnership as if we didn't get relegated with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I'm just happy he's looking fit and hoping he can remain injury free as he's the only striker we have who isn't hilarious in front of goal. I think he made a decent enough account of himself today. Not great, but a marked improvement on the last couple of month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 People go on about the Perez Mitrovic partnership as if we didn't get relegated with it Best we have as a partnership in my opinion. Much better than Gayle/Diame from the first 6 months of the Championship. And with Joselu's confidence looking shot to bits, I don't see any other viable option than to give them a chance up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I'm just happy he's looking fit and hoping he can remain injury free as he's the only striker we have who isn't hilarious in front of goal. I think he made a decent enough account of himself today. Not great, but a marked improvement on the last couple of month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 People go on about the Perez Mitrovic partnership as if we didn't get relegated with it Best we have as a partnership in my opinion. Much better than Gayle/Diame from the first 6 months of the Championship. And with Joselu's confidence looking shot to bits, I don't see any other viable option than to give them a chance up top. But why Perez? I can understand giving Mitro a go beside Gayle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Think the words I used was 'he didn't do much'. And he didn't. If he had scored we would have drew the match 1-1. The linesman decided he didn't score so he didn't. We don't make these decisions. Gayle had the chance to rectify it as I just said, and he failed to take it. That's nonsense like, your criticism is with Gayle, not the officials. To me, if the officials decide a goal is offside, I move on and so should the player involved. Gayle had 90 minutes to score a goal deemed legitimate, and he didn't, regardless of whether you view his goal on or offside. Therefore my original post of 'didn't do much' is perfectly valid. Because he didn't do much, did he? f***ing hell. So because the ref disallowed his perfectly fine goal, that means it didn't happen and it's Gayle's fault. Flawless logic. I prefer to focus on what was in a player's hands rather than what was out. It's not his responsibility that the linesman deemed him offside, but it is his responsibility to then go and take the chance he had after that, and he didn't. Other than those two moments, he didn't do much/anything else in the game. So arriving back to my initial point, no Gayle didn't do much. Fucking hell I hardly called him worse than shit, I said he didn't do much. And he didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Thought he actually gave the defenders more trouble in hold up play than Joselu actually. We got worse because Perez came on, not because Joselu went off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 People go on about the Perez Mitrovic partnership as if we didn't get relegated with it Best we have as a partnership in my opinion. Much better than Gayle/Diame from the first 6 months of the Championship. And with Joselu's confidence looking shot to bits, I don't see any other viable option than to give them a chance up top. But why Perez? I can understand giving Mitro a go beside Gayle Yeah sure why not, I just don't see one of them instinctively dropping off, but maybe Mitrovic could. He operates fairly deep for Serbia so he probably can do the job. I just want to see him in and around the box myself, he causes havoc and opens up space for Atsu, Ritchie & Shelvey to shoot. So important for us. Even if he doesn't score he can severely impact a game, which is why I criticise Gayle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Thought he actually gave the defenders more trouble in hold up play than Joselu actually. We got worse because Perez came on, not because Joselu went off. I disagree mate, I think Joselu, even though he was shit in possession, won a lot in the air and allowed us to advance up the pitch. When he went off nobody was doing that and we couldn't get out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Think the words I used was 'he didn't do much'. And he didn't. If he had scored we would have drew the match 1-1. The linesman decided he didn't score so he didn't. We don't make these decisions. Gayle had the chance to rectify it as I just said, and he failed to take it. That's nonsense like, your criticism is with Gayle, not the officials. To me, if the officials decide a goal is offside, I move on and so should the player involved. Gayle had 90 minutes to score a goal deemed legitimate, and he didn't, regardless of whether you view his goal on or offside. Therefore my original post of 'didn't do much' is perfectly valid. Because he didn't do much, did he? f***ing hell. So because the ref disallowed his perfectly fine goal, that means it didn't happen and it's Gayle's fault. Flawless logic. I prefer to focus on what was in a player's hands rather than what was out. It's not his responsibility that the linesman deemed him offside, but it is his responsibility to then go and take the chance he had after that, and he didn't. Other than those two moments, he didn't do much/anything else in the game. So arriving back to my initial point, no Gayle didn't do much. Fucking hell I hardly called him worse than shit, I said he didn't do much. And he didn't. I'm out, you're nuts. It was in his hands when the ball came to him off the post and he had the chance to score and he took it. That happened. You can't just stop and start these things at your convenience and say he didn't do much in the whole match because he didn't do much AFTER and the disallowed goal, it's all or nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Think the words I used was 'he didn't do much'. And he didn't. If he had scored we would have drew the match 1-1. The linesman decided he didn't score so he didn't. We don't make these decisions. Gayle had the chance to rectify it as I just said, and he failed to take it. That's nonsense like, your criticism is with Gayle, not the officials. To me, if the officials decide a goal is offside, I move on and so should the player involved. Gayle had 90 minutes to score a goal deemed legitimate, and he didn't, regardless of whether you view his goal on or offside. Therefore my original post of 'didn't do much' is perfectly valid. Because he didn't do much, did he? f***ing hell. So because the ref disallowed his perfectly fine goal, that means it didn't happen and it's Gayle's fault. Flawless logic. I prefer to focus on what was in a player's hands rather than what was out. It's not his responsibility that the linesman deemed him offside, but it is his responsibility to then go and take the chance he had after that, and he didn't. Other than those two moments, he didn't do much/anything else in the game. So arriving back to my initial point, no Gayle didn't do much. f***ing hell I hardly called him worse than s***, I said he didn't do much. And he didn't. I'm out, you're nuts. It was in his hands when the ball came to him off the post and he had the chance to score and he took it. That happened. You can't just stop and start these things at your convenience and say he didn't do much in the whole match because he didn't do much AFTER and the disallowed goal, it's all or nothing. He didn't do much in the match regardless of the offside/onside crack. Do you think he did like? Cause' there's evidence that says he clearly didn't do much in the game and many would agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Thought Gayle did well overall, linked up well. Should have made more of a couple of chances and of course did score a perfectly good goal. Also might have had a chance to score again if he wasn't blatantly pushed over when almost clear on goal at the end (another amazing refereeing decision). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Think the words I used was 'he didn't do much'. And he didn't. If he had scored we would have drew the match 1-1. The linesman decided he didn't score so he didn't. We don't make these decisions. Gayle had the chance to rectify it as I just said, and he failed to take it. That's nonsense like, your criticism is with Gayle, not the officials. To me, if the officials decide a goal is offside, I move on and so should the player involved. Gayle had 90 minutes to score a goal deemed legitimate, and he didn't, regardless of whether you view his goal on or offside. Therefore my original post of 'didn't do much' is perfectly valid. Because he didn't do much, did he? f***ing hell. So because the ref disallowed his perfectly fine goal, that means it didn't happen and it's Gayle's fault. Flawless logic. I prefer to focus on what was in a player's hands rather than what was out. It's not his responsibility that the linesman deemed him offside, but it is his responsibility to then go and take the chance he had after that, and he didn't. Other than those two moments, he didn't do much/anything else in the game. So arriving back to my initial point, no Gayle didn't do much. f***ing hell I hardly called him worse than s***, I said he didn't do much. And he didn't. I'm out, you're nuts. It was in his hands when the ball came to him off the post and he had the chance to score and he took it. That happened. You can't just stop and start these things at your convenience and say he didn't do much in the whole match because he didn't do much AFTER and the disallowed goal, it's all or nothing. He didn't do much in the match regardless of the offside/onside crack. Do you think he did like? Cause' there's evidence that says he clearly didn't do much in the game and many would agree. Why are you only judging him aside from his goal? This is the point, discounting it because it was wrongly disallowed is nuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Nah I'm judging him with his offside/onside 'goal' included. Didn't do much imo. As ridiculous a statement that appears to be to you... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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