Greg Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 He's started 7 out of the last 10 games which included a run of 4 games in 2 weeks. I meant he needs to start every game if fit. If you want us to get relegated. 0.45 - Points Per Game when Gayle starts 1.50 - Points Per Game when Gayle doesn't start I’m saying if people want Gayle to start scoring regularly, he has to play regularly, and not in fits and starts which is what has happened this season. Your stats btw, you could say the same for Hayden, for Shelvey, for half the team. It’s irrelevent. Doesn’t mean we are losing games not winning because Gayle is playing or even vice versa. Play Gayle and we get relegated is that what you are saying, or rather your stats? Basically I’m just defending him today. I thought he was a goal threat, a nuisance and generally played really well. Put one or two of them chances away and it’s MOTM and 8/10. He was awful today, 4 good chances, cocked them all up. He's played plenty of football recently. He's not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 He's started 7 out of the last 10 games which included a run of 4 games in 2 weeks. I meant he needs to start every game if fit. If you want us to get relegated. 0.45 - Points Per Game when Gayle starts 1.50 - Points Per Game when Gayle doesn't start I’m saying if people want Gayle to start scoring regularly, he has to play regularly, and not in fits and starts which is what has happened this season. Your stats btw, you could say the same for Hayden, for Shelvey, for half the team. It’s irrelevent. Doesn’t mean we are losing games not winning because Gayle is playing or even vice versa. Play Gayle and we get relegated is that what you are saying, or rather your stats? Basically I’m just defending him today. I thought he was a goal threat, a nuisance and generally played really well. Put one or two of them chances away and it’s MOTM and 8/10. He was awful today, 4 good chances, cocked them all up. He's played plenty of football recently. He's not good enough. He didn't have 4 good chances mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 That second header was terrible. Fabianski was nowhere, all he had to do was miss him and it was in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 He's started 7 out of the last 10 games which included a run of 4 games in 2 weeks. I meant he needs to start every game if fit. If you want us to get relegated. 0.45 - Points Per Game when Gayle starts 1.50 - Points Per Game when Gayle doesn't start I’m saying if people want Gayle to start scoring regularly, he has to play regularly, and not in fits and starts which is what has happened this season. Your stats btw, you could say the same for Hayden, for Shelvey, for half the team. It’s irrelevent. Doesn’t mean we are losing games not winning because Gayle is playing or even vice versa. Play Gayle and we get relegated is that what you are saying, or rather your stats? Basically I’m just defending him today. I thought he was a goal threat, a nuisance and generally played really well. Put one or two of them chances away and it’s MOTM and 8/10. He was awful today, 4 good chances, cocked them all up. He's played plenty of football recently. He's not good enough. His finishing was awful, the rest was very good. No-one else in our squad would get into those positions to score. I also trust him to score more goals than anyone else in our squad. He’s not good enough long term, but is more than good enough at this current moment in time. Again tuck one or two of them chances away today and he’s MOTM/8-10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 He's started 7 out of the last 10 games which included a run of 4 games in 2 weeks. I meant he needs to start every game if fit. If you want us to get relegated. 0.45 - Points Per Game when Gayle starts 1.50 - Points Per Game when Gayle doesn't start I’m saying if people want Gayle to start scoring regularly, he has to play regularly, and not in fits and starts which is what has happened this season. Your stats btw, you could say the same for Hayden, for Shelvey, for half the team. It’s irrelevent. Doesn’t mean we are losing games not winning because Gayle is playing or even vice versa. Play Gayle and we get relegated is that what you are saying, or rather your stats? Basically I’m just defending him today. I thought he was a goal threat, a nuisance and generally played really well. Put one or two of them chances away and it’s MOTM and 8/10. He was awful today, 4 good chances, cocked them all up. He's played plenty of football recently. He's not good enough. He didn't have 4 good chances mind Watching it back now, certainly had 3 good chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 headers from memory which someone like Shearer would have burried. The rest from memory were half chances, one from a distance IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 He's started 7 out of the last 10 games which included a run of 4 games in 2 weeks. I meant he needs to start every game if fit. If you want us to get relegated. 0.45 - Points Per Game when Gayle starts 1.50 - Points Per Game when Gayle doesn't start I’m saying if people want Gayle to start scoring regularly, he has to play regularly, and not in fits and starts which is what has happened this season. Your stats btw, you could say the same for Hayden, for Shelvey, for half the team. It’s irrelevent. Doesn’t mean we are losing games not winning because Gayle is playing or even vice versa. Play Gayle and we get relegated is that what you are saying, or rather your stats? Basically I’m just defending him today. I thought he was a goal threat, a nuisance and generally played really well. Put one or two of them chances away and it’s MOTM and 8/10. He was awful today, 4 good chances, cocked them all up. He's played plenty of football recently. He's not good enough. He didn't have 4 good chances mind Watching it back now, certainly had 3 good chances. Considering how pedantic you are at times I stand by what I said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 He's started 7 out of the last 10 games which included a run of 4 games in 2 weeks. I meant he needs to start every game if fit. If you want us to get relegated. 0.45 - Points Per Game when Gayle starts 1.50 - Points Per Game when Gayle doesn't start I’m saying if people want Gayle to start scoring regularly, he has to play regularly, and not in fits and starts which is what has happened this season. Your stats btw, you could say the same for Hayden, for Shelvey, for half the team. It’s irrelevent. Doesn’t mean we are losing games not winning because Gayle is playing or even vice versa. Play Gayle and we get relegated is that what you are saying, or rather your stats? Basically I’m just defending him today. I thought he was a goal threat, a nuisance and generally played really well. Put one or two of them chances away and it’s MOTM and 8/10. He was awful today, 4 good chances, cocked them all up. He's played plenty of football recently. He's not good enough. He didn't have 4 good chances mind Watching it back now, certainly had 3 good chances. Considering how pedantic you are at times I stand by what I said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 headers from memory which someone like Shearer would have burried. The rest from memory were half chances, one from a distance IIRC. Would fancy Joselu to score one of them, never mind Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 headers from memory which someone like Shearer would have burried. The rest from memory were half chances, one from a distance IIRC. Through on goal 15 yards out second half, missed the target. Small margins but they matter at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 headers from memory which someone like Shearer would have burried. The rest from memory were half chances, one from a distance IIRC. Through on goal 15 yards out second half, missed the target. Small margins but they matter at this level. Well let’s replace him with... oh wait! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 headers from memory which someone like Shearer would have burried. The rest from memory were half chances, one from a distance IIRC. Would fancy Joselu to score one of them, never mind Shearer. Not after seeing some of his ‘efforts’ this season. They were shocking headers though. Real powder puff stuff. You couldn’t even blame the pace of the cross or anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 headers from memory which someone like Shearer would have burried. The rest from memory were half chances, one from a distance IIRC. Through on goal 15 yards out second half, missed the target. Small margins but they matter at this level. Well let’s replace him with... oh wait! In an ideal world but you and I know that Ashley isn't spending. So we have to make do. Not the whole picture I know, especially as Gayle came in for the likes of Man United and Chelsea away but still relatively telling... Won 1, lost 8 of 11 that Gayle has started. Won 5, lost 8 of 17 that Joselu has started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Cannat remember if it was before or after he took a knock in the first half, but he just didn't look interested, even more so after the knock in the second half. Felt like he fluffed those two chances and his head just dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 headers from memory which someone like Shearer would have burried. The rest from memory were half chances, one from a distance IIRC. Through on goal 15 yards out second half, missed the target. Small margins but they matter at this level. Well let’s replace him with... oh wait! In an ideal world but you and I know that Ashley isn't spending. So we have to make do. Not the whole picture I know, especially as Gayle came in for the likes of Man United and Chelsea away but still relatively telling... Won 1, lost 8 of 11 that Gayle has started. Won 5, lost 8 of 17 that Joselu has started. So six games more... stats can skewer anything really. I’d like to see goals to shots ratio. All I know is Gayle is our best bet for a goal and has shown recently he’s not to bad at holding the ball up etc. or putting himself about. His attributes also lend more to our game or way of playing. Anyway it’s a moot point when you’re drawing at home to Swansea, no money to spend, and a relegation fight is on the cards, it’s all shit really. Again, thanks Mike! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Watching his goals from the Championship again, about two thirds seem to be from the six yard box or very close by. Against the better defences in the PL, we've not been able to get in behind anything like as much, so those goals have disappeared. My comment was before the game, and he certainly can't blame the service yesterday. fwiw, most of those six yard goals were with his feet. I don't think he's ever beaten an in-position keeper with a shot from outside the box, so the other chance was not one he was likely to take. This wouldn't matter so much if he did better closer in, but the headers were woeful. Ayew's was straight at Darlow, but had enough power to get a second chance. It sounds like Rafa would have happily traded up on Gayle in the summer but the transfer people were too stingy and inept to do it. He can even do wheeler dealing to make the most of what little resources we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 S.H.I.T Don’t be too harsh on yourself. The king of banter strikes again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Not good enough like that majority of our team. I also do not think he has the desire/heart to make up for his lack of quality at the top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Not good enough like that majority of our team. I also do not think he has the desire/heart to make up for his lack of quality at the top level. Looked totally uninterested yesterday. When he's not scoring goals he contributes nothing else either. At least Joselu, his goal aside, won some headers and worked the two centre halves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 You know when your career has hit rock bottom when there is a genuine debate being had over whether you are more or less effective or better than Joselu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 HTT are you ok? You never used to talk this much shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 This forum is better with HTT in it, than without, but I can't say I've agreed with him much this last couple of days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 HTT's a very good egg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Not good enough like that majority of our team. I also do not think he has the desire/heart to make up for his lack of quality at the top level. Looked totally uninterested yesterday. When he's not scoring goals he contributes nothing else either. At least Joselu, his goal aside, won some headers and worked the two centre halves.u Not good enough like that majority of our team. I also do not think he has the desire/heart to make up for his lack of quality at the top level. Looked totally uninterested yesterday. When he's not scoring goals he contributes nothing else either. At least Joselu, his goal aside, won some headers and worked the two centre halves. He didn't score, but his general play was fine. Pressed well, nicked the ball a few times, won headers, held up play etc. I just think he’s low on confidence. Again I’d back him to score goals ahead of anyone else we have and his game is much better than Joselu’s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 HTT's a very good egg. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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