xLiaaamx Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just stick Jonjo on set pieces. I'm pretty sure Ritchie only ever takes half of them when Shelvey plays anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just stick Jonjo on set pieces. I'm pretty sure Ritchie only ever takes half of them when Shelvey plays anyway. And yet he doesn't have an assist to his name this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Keeping him in the side because he takes good set pieces is like arguing Shola should have always played because he took good penalties. It's not though is it. Teams generally get corners and free kicks in every single match, and can go months without getting a penalty. The basic argument is that he is vital to the team because of his set piece play, I’m arguing that doesn’t justify playing him all the time on the off chance that he does something on a set piece... just why Shola shouldn’t have played all the time on the off chance we get a penalty and he puts it away. Anyway we are going around in circles here... The 'off chance'? He's comfortably our most consistent assister because he's good at it. The comparison with Shola and penalties you've made is absolutely crazy, they're nothing alike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Keeping him in the side because he takes good set pieces is like arguing Shola should have always played because he took good penalties. It's not though is it. Teams generally get corners and free kicks in every single match, and can go months without getting a penalty. The basic argument is that he is vital to the team because of his set piece play, I’m arguing that doesn’t justify playing him all the time on the off chance that he does something on a set piece... just why Shola shouldn’t have played all the time on the off chance we get a penalty and he puts it away. Anyway we are going around in circles here... The 'off chance'? He's comfortably our most consistent assister because he's good at it. The comparison with Shola and penalties you've made is absolutely crazy, they're nothing alike. He is good at it, but then he does take the majority of set pieces. His set piece play doesn’t make him undropbable though given we have others who are capable, not when he has contributed to just as many goals being conceded as well. Yesterday was one of the most pathetic displays I’ve seen from one of our players in a long time, he was constantly done by simple balls in between and was twisted inside out by anyone that ran at him. He failed to block crosses and on the ball he rarely looked to play it forward. I say pathetic because he was a major factor in allowing Chelsea to score and cause us problems and just as much because he constantly blamed anothers’ if say someone misplaced a pass. I’d like to see him dropped, give others a chance at set play. Let’s start being more of a threat in open play which Ritchie simply doesn’t offer with his inability to beat a man and his annoying self checking to slow the game down before playing the ball back. These days he hardly gets into the final 3rd even. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just stick Jonjo on set pieces. I'm pretty sure Ritchie only ever takes half of them when Shelvey plays anyway. And yet he doesn't have an assist to his name this season. It's weird he didn't get one for that Joselu goal If Joselu could finished maybe he would have but Matip kicked it off him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Keeping him in the side because he takes good set pieces is like arguing Shola should have always played because he took good penalties. It's not though is it. Teams generally get corners and free kicks in every single match, and can go months without getting a penalty. The basic argument is that he is vital to the team because of his set piece play, I’m arguing that doesn’t justify playing him all the time on the off chance that he does something on a set piece... just why Shola shouldn’t have played all the time on the off chance we get a penalty and he puts it away. Anyway we are going around in circles here... The 'off chance'? He's comfortably our most consistent assister because he's good at it. The comparison with Shola and penalties you've made is absolutely crazy, they're nothing alike. He is good at it, but then he does take the majority of set pieces. His set piece play doesn’t make him undropbable though given we have others who are capable, not when he has contributed to just as many goals being conceded as well. Yesterday was one of the most pathetic displays I’ve seen from one of our players in a long time, he was constantly done by simple balls in between and was twisted inside out by anyone that ran at him. He failed to block crosses and on the ball he rarely looked to play it forward. I say pathetic because he was a major factor in allowing Chelsea to score and cause us problems and just as much because he constantly blamed anothers’ if say someone misplaced a pass. I’d like to see him dropped, give others a chance at set play. Let’s start being more of a threat in open play which Ritchie simply doesn’t offer with his inability to beat a man and his annoying self checking to slow the game down before playing the ball back. These days he hardly gets into the final 3rd even. Disagree with most of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Good as this is boring! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 If we're going back to 4-3-2-1 next week I'd be tempted to drop him for Aaron's. I agree he's a threat from dead balls, however he's been responsible for us conceding the same number of goals in the last week as he's assisted all season. Time for a break for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 If we're going back to 4-3-2-1 next week I'd be tempted to drop him for Aaron's. I agree he's a threat from dead balls, however he's been responsible for us conceding the same number of goals in the last week as he's assisted all season. Time for a break for me Back to a formation we haven't played once this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 It's December. Perfect time to bring out the Christmas tree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I stopped reading at "mediocre set piece assists". Without them we'd be bottom of the league. When I say "mediocre" I'm going by the dictionary definition of distinctly average. And I view his set pieces as average because I'm judging by what I see when it comes to technical execution of e.g. corners - I think he floats it more than he whips it, at a higher trajectory that makes it harder to score and easier to defend. Better set piece takers can whip the into an area at a trajectory/pace that causes far more problems. You must be blind or partially sighted. We're probably the best we've been for 15 years + at attacking set pieces and a lot of that is down to the delivery from Ritchie. So far this season it is his one redeeming feature. No need to be a cunt if you can't understand simple arguments and also fail to actually bring up any relevant points already not covered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I stopped reading at "mediocre set piece assists". Without them we'd be bottom of the league. When I say "mediocre" I'm going by the dictionary definition of distinctly average. And I view his set pieces as average because I'm judging by what I see when it comes to technical execution of e.g. corners - I think he floats it more than he whips it, at a higher trajectory that makes it harder to score and easier to defend. Better set piece takers can whip the into an area at a trajectory/pace that causes far more problems. You must be blind or partially sighted. We're probably the best we've been for 15 years + at attacking set pieces and a lot of that is down to the delivery from Ritchie. So far this season it is his one redeeming feature. No need to be a c*** if you can't understand simple arguments and also fail to actually bring up any relevant points already not covered. He can't help himself unfortunately. Shame as I've met him before when I helped him out for tickets for Blackpool away a few years ago and he was very pleasant face to face but sometimes people act differently when sat behind a computer screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Please don’t take anything I say on here too seriously! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 If we're going back to 4-3-2-1 next week I'd be tempted to drop him for Aaron's. I agree he's a threat from dead balls, however he's been responsible for us conceding the same number of goals in the last week as he's assisted all season. Time for a break for me Back to a formation we haven't played once this season? Eeeeee, got me 3s and 2s in the wrong order Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 We have the highest percentage of headed goals before Chelsea. 30% something. Assuming most assisted by Ritchie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 We're not a good enough team from open play to risk losing his set piece delivery. He's not hopeless, like Rory Delap was when not taking long throws, but is in poor form. I would have had him down to chip in with five or six goals this season, so he's definitely underperforming there. Yedlin's been struggling too, so that won't have helped either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Would people rest him though? I don't want him dropped, but he looks shattered imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Aye he's lost his snarl recently. He's in desperate need of a refresh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FustinoSolano Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Probably does need to be left out for a game or two but that leaves us without his corners & freekicks which have been a huge source of assists this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 He needs to play a lot better than Saturday, couldn't really be much worse, costing us the two goals we lost by ! It's either feast or famine it seems with him lately, 2 assists for us against Brom and two assist against us Versus Chelsea. I highly doubt Rafa will drop him though with Atsu back but he's got to produce positively more the he has lately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 He’s having another absolute stinker! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 He's a liability from open play. Utter garbage footballer with an eye for a freekick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Truthfully he's limited at Prem level, the work rate might be endearing but offers little outside deadballs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Needs dropping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Truthfully he's limited at Prem level, the work rate might be endearing but offers little outside deadballs. It really isn't though. Once in 3 matches he'll actually get a tackle right and that's about it. Everything about his game apart from some of his freekicks and sideways passes is substandard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now