Carlito Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 They have some pace and attack-minded players though. The most attack-minded player we have is probably Aarons or Atsu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 palace should comfortably be top 8 with that squad. seriously underachieving. Yet Woy would do a better job than Rafa with our squad apparently. go figure! serously though - rafa would have those clowns a lot higher. a couple of decent defenders and he would be pushing top 6 with them. (WARNING!!! in my opinion only). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Give Rafa Zaha, Townsend, and a bang average striker (someone like Shane Long) and we’d be very comfortable. Zaha alone would transform us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 You conveniently missed one stat though the number of shots city had on our goal compared to Palace if you’re going to try and make a comparison then do it properly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Just remember this same palace team lost the first 7 games without scoring, the same players look a much better team now, this blind notion that the way we are playing is purely down to the players is ridiculous. I like Benitez to suggest it’s nothing to do with him is just blind abdication. Also to suggest anyone that disagrees is ‘thick’ is positively Maoist, we are allowed to have different opinions. Massive difference is that Palace's side is full of proven quality players compared to ours. They were clearly playing worse than their abilities and have now improved. That proves that a manager can have significant influence on the players, if you think that Benitez has us playing near their maximum I disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 You conveniently missed one stat though the number of shots city had on our goal compared to Palace if you’re going to try and make a comparison then do it properly Two more shots on target and 6 off target with a better team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 They've been brilliant since Woy arrived though, De Boer is why they're down the bottom. Although not for long. Indifferent, only 4 wins. Certainly not brilliant, but comfortable mid table record. Ok, not brilliant. But two missed injury-time penalties from brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 You conveniently missed one stat though the number of shots city had on our goal compared to Palace if you’re going to try and make a comparison then do it properly Two more shots on target and 6 off target with a better team Exactly. City goal attempts vs. Newcastle = 21 City shots on target vs. Newcastle = 6 City goal attempts vs. Palace = 15 City shots on target vs. Palace = 4 Given the fact that our squad is easily worse than theirs, I think that sits about right on paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 aye but divn't tell hairyhands keys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 You conveniently missed one stat though the number of shots city had on our goal compared to Palace if you’re going to try and make a comparison then do it properly Two more shots on target and 6 off target with a better team Not going by the sky stats mind city v palace 15 shots 4 on target 4 off 7 blocked compared to 22 shots 6 on 12 off and 4 blocked versus us. Bit different from yours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 You conveniently missed one stat though the number of shots city had on our goal compared to Palace if you’re going to try and make a comparison then do it properly Two more shots on target and 6 off target with a better team Not going by the sky stats mind city v palace 15 shots 4 on target 4 off 7 blocked compared to 22 shots 6 on 12 off and 4 blocked versus us. Bit different from yours. I wasn't looking at Sky stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 You conveniently missed one stat though the number of shots city had on our goal compared to Palace if you’re going to try and make a comparison then do it properly Two more shots on target and 6 off target with a better team Not going by the sky stats mind city v palace 15 shots 4 on target 4 off 7 blocked compared to 22 shots 6 on 12 off and 4 blocked versus us. Bit different from yours. I wasn't looking at Sky stats. Well maybe you should have then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 You conveniently missed one stat though the number of shots city had on our goal compared to Palace if you’re going to try and make a comparison then do it properly Two more shots on target and 6 off target with a better team Not going by the sky stats mind city v palace 15 shots 4 on target 4 off 7 blocked compared to 22 shots 6 on 12 off and 4 blocked versus us. Bit different from yours. I wasn't looking at Sky stats. Well maybe you should have then I used Flash Scores and they're the same, so that doesn't make your argument any more credible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 You conveniently missed one stat though the number of shots city had on our goal compared to Palace if you’re going to try and make a comparison then do it properly Two more shots on target and 6 off target with a better team Not going by the sky stats mind city v palace 15 shots 4 on target 4 off 7 blocked compared to 22 shots 6 on 12 off and 4 blocked versus us. Bit different from yours. I wasn't looking at Sky stats. Well maybe you should have then I used Flash Scores and they're the same, so that doesn't make your argument any more credible. Their obviously not the same and yeah it does 18 shots on goal against 8 is a pretty big difference. But never mind you stick to Flash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 FlashScores get their data from Bet365 fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 FlashScores get their data from Bet365 fwiw. Other way round I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 You conveniently missed one stat though the number of shots city had on our goal compared to Palace if you’re going to try and make a comparison then do it properly Two more shots on target and 6 off target with a better team Not going by the sky stats mind city v palace 15 shots 4 on target 4 off 7 blocked compared to 22 shots 6 on 12 off and 4 blocked versus us. Bit different from yours. I wasn't looking at Sky stats. Well maybe you should have then I used Flash Scores and they're the same, so that doesn't make your argument any more credible. Their obviously not the same and yeah it does 18 shots on goal against 8 is a pretty big difference. But never mind you stick to Flash. https://www.flashscores.co.uk/match/Y3iI5c4U/#match-statistics;0 http://www.skysports.com/football/newcastle-vs-man-city/stats/373293 Possession (%) = 22/78 Total shots = 6/21 (22 shots for City on Sky Sports) Shots on target = 2/6 Shots off target = 3/12 Shots blocked = 1/3 (1/4 on Sky Sports because of the 22 shots stat) Shots saved = 5/2 (5/1 on Sky Sports) So yeah, the base for your argument is 1 shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 FlashScores get their data from Bet365 fwiw. And Bet365 get their info from somewhere else. Sky get their info from analysts covering the games live. Come on man I watched the two games myself and it’s not hard to see which stats are correct and were the ones reported by sky when they showed the game live on Wednesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 You conveniently missed one stat though the number of shots city had on our goal compared to Palace if you’re going to try and make a comparison then do it properly Two more shots on target and 6 off target with a better team Not going by the sky stats mind city v palace 15 shots 4 on target 4 off 7 blocked compared to 22 shots 6 on 12 off and 4 blocked versus us. Bit different from yours. I wasn't looking at Sky stats. Well maybe you should have then I used Flash Scores and they're the same, so that doesn't make your argument any more credible. Their obviously not the same and yeah it does 18 shots on goal against 8 is a pretty big difference. But never mind you stick to Flash. https://www.flashscores.co.uk/match/Y3iI5c4U/#match-statistics;0 http://www.skysports.com/football/newcastle-vs-man-city/stats/373293 Possession (%) = 22/78 Total shots = 6/21 (22 shots for City on Sky Sports) Shots on target = 2/6 Shots off target = 3/12 Shots blocked = 1/3 (1/4 on Sky Sports because of the 22 shots stat) Shots saved = 5/2 (5/1 on Sky Sports) So yeah, the base for your argument is 1 shot. No the base of my argument is that city had 10 more shots on goal against us than palace and one you conveniently forgot to mention when you posted your original stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 You conveniently missed one stat though the number of shots city had on our goal compared to Palace if you’re going to try and make a comparison then do it properly Two more shots on target and 6 off target with a better team Not going by the sky stats mind city v palace 15 shots 4 on target 4 off 7 blocked compared to 22 shots 6 on 12 off and 4 blocked versus us. Bit different from yours. I wasn't looking at Sky stats. Well maybe you should have then I used Flash Scores and they're the same, so that doesn't make your argument any more credible. Their obviously not the same and yeah it does 18 shots on goal against 8 is a pretty big difference. But never mind you stick to Flash. https://www.flashscores.co.uk/match/Y3iI5c4U/#match-statistics;0 http://www.skysports.com/football/newcastle-vs-man-city/stats/373293 Possession (%) = 22/78 Total shots = 6/21 (22 shots for City on Sky Sports) Shots on target = 2/6 Shots off target = 3/12 Shots blocked = 1/3 (1/4 on Sky Sports because of the 22 shots stat) Shots saved = 5/2 (5/1 on Sky Sports) So yeah, the base for your argument is 1 shot. No the base of my argument is that city had 10 more shots on goal against us than palace and one you conveniently forgot to mention when you posted your original stats. They didn't. They had 7 more against us, not that many really in the grand scheme of things given we let them have the ball in front us and they took lots of shots from 25+ yards against us in the first half. Other than that the match stats are very similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Look at the game stats for city's last two games Exactly the point I was trying to make a page or two back. Palace will be praised by the media I'm assuming, whereas we were absolutely slated. - City had 74% possession against Palace in comparison to 78% against us - We had one more shot on target than Palace, whereas they had one more shot off target - We had 228 passes in comparison to Palace's 208 You conveniently missed one stat though the number of shots city had on our goal compared to Palace if you’re going to try and make a comparison then do it properly Two more shots on target and 6 off target with a better team Not going by the sky stats mind city v palace 15 shots 4 on target 4 off 7 blocked compared to 22 shots 6 on 12 off and 4 blocked versus us. Bit different from yours. I wasn't looking at Sky stats. Well maybe you should have then I used Flash Scores and they're the same, so that doesn't make your argument any more credible. Their obviously not the same and yeah it does 18 shots on goal against 8 is a pretty big difference. But never mind you stick to Flash. https://www.flashscores.co.uk/match/Y3iI5c4U/#match-statistics;0 http://www.skysports.com/football/newcastle-vs-man-city/stats/373293 Possession (%) = 22/78 Total shots = 6/21 (22 shots for City on Sky Sports) Shots on target = 2/6 Shots off target = 3/12 Shots blocked = 1/3 (1/4 on Sky Sports because of the 22 shots stat) Shots saved = 5/2 (5/1 on Sky Sports) So yeah, the base for your argument is 1 shot. No the base of my argument is that city had 10 more shots on goal against us than palace and one you conveniently forgot to mention when you posted your original stats. Where the hell are you getting 10 more shots from? Do you even math bro? City had 15 shots against Palace, and 21-22 (depending on where you look) against us. They had 6 on target against us and 4 on target against Palace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Thank fuck the next game starts soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Thank fuck the next defeat starts soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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