Dinho lad Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Not suggesting I would like to see it happen, but the general format of the following might be the best shot: One or two Super Leagues consisting of the best teams in Europe playing each other 2x times a season with a winner and relegation spots. The rest of the domestic leagues carries on as normal - but the teams that are promoted to the super league are the Champions League winners and Europa League winners. (So, the winner of the CL for the following season competes in Super League 1 and the winner of the Europa League in Super League 2) Have a wank on that, Infantino! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Not suggesting I would like to see it happen, but the general format of the following might be the best shot: One or two Super Leagues consisting of the best teams in Europe playing each other 2x times a season with a winner and relegation spots. The rest of the domestic leagues carries on as normal - but the teams that are promoted to the super league are the Champions League winners and Europa League winners. (So, the winner of the CL for the following season competes in Super League 1 and the winner of the Europa League in Super League 2) Have a wank on that, Infantino! What if the champions league winners come from a different country to the relegated club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Scenario: If Man City get relegated from Super League 1, they fuck off back to the PL and if Celtic win the CL, they play in Super League 1 (). Possible solution: The Super League is to finish x weeks before the conclusion of the domestic season in order to 'give notice' to the PL clubs that a fourth relegation spot would be 'up for grabs'. (Similar principle in Scotland) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Jeeeez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Jeeeez. Roma's bantstastic Twitter is bad enough. That video is just sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 The baby bear makes it in the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 The baby bear makes it in the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I would have thought there's no reasons for the clubs to "break away" from their national leagues. They could maintain a presence in the PL (Liga, Serie A et al) but focus their energies on the Super League. All of those clubs could afford maintain a 25 man Super League squad and a national league squad comprised of reserves and fringe players. Imagine a Chelsea PL team of all their loan players! Whilst Hazard is doing it in the Super League, Loftus-Cheek could be playing first-team football... The obvious reply is for the leagues to tell them to do one. But would they? They could sell a rights package that was still "intact" if diminished. The remaining clubs would be happy to sign off on a league in which the best five teams are brought closer to the pack. Less money, sure, but they agree to less, or have a lot less forced on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 http://www.spiegel.de/international/manchester-city-exposed-bending-the-rules-to-the-tune-of-millions-a-1236346.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 http://www.spiegel.de/international/manchester-city-exposed-bending-the-rules-to-the-tune-of-millions-a-1236346.html Unreal to see it all spelled out like that. Apparently, companies like Etihad in Abu Dhabi wait for the Abu Dhabi United Group (ADUG), the holding company that belongs to Sheikh Mansour and which also owns Manchester City, to wire them money. That money is then "routed through the partners and they then forward onto us," wrote Finance Director Andrew Widdowson in an email. That, at least, is how things were done in 2015: At the time, the deal with Etihad was bringing in 67.5 million pounds annually. But Chief Financial Officer Chumillas emphasized in an email to Pearce: "Please note that out of those 67.5m pounds, 8m pounds should be funded directly by Etihad and 59.5 by ADUG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It has made the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46101803 Take away their titles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 FFP rules have always meant big clubs can get bigger by just agreeing to more sponsorship, small clubs with restricted income like Newcastle will never compete, I dont see how any of the current FFP rules have been broken here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It has made the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46101803 Take away their titles. 'deceived'. Didn't the general public call it out as dodgy as soon as the insanely high 'sponsorships' were announced? I'm sure UEFA had no idea, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 FFP rules have always meant big clubs can get bigger by just agreeing to more sponsorship, small clubs with restricted income like Newcastle will never compete, I dont see how any of the current FFP rules have been broken here Seriously? They are amending sponsorship agreements after the fact and funneling money from the club's owners through a sponsor and into the club. They'd be happy to admit to you that they are breaking the rules because they don't give a fuck. What is UEFA going to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 FFP rules have always meant big clubs can get bigger by just agreeing to more sponsorship, small clubs with restricted income like Newcastle will never compete, I dont see how any of the current FFP rules have been broken here Seriously? They are amending sponsorship agreements after the fact and funneling money from the club's owners through a sponsor and into the club. They'd be happy to admit to you that they are breaking the rules because they don't give a fuck. What is UEFA going to do? A big fine, that will sort them right out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 In a sense, if both parties know what is going on it's essentially a completely legal bribe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Part 2 http://www.spiegel.de/international/manchester-city-and-the-fight-against-financial-fairplay-a-1236347-amp.html?__twitter_impression=true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Unbelievable reading all that, football is well and truly fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 FFP rules have always meant big clubs can get bigger by just agreeing to more sponsorship, small clubs with restricted income like Newcastle will never compete, I dont see how any of the current FFP rules have been broken here While it is 'reality' at the moment, I can never get used to reading and hearing things like the above, where the sentence "Small clubs like Newcastle United" is written. If you supported Newcastle United through the 1990s and 2000s, we were a fabulously rich 'big' club (whatever your definition) so it is difficult to accept casually and routinely written statements like the above. This is the world we were in . . . https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=72784611&postcount=208 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Unbelievable reading all that, football is well and truly fucked. The most insane thing about all of this is you can guarantee not a single fucking punishment of substance will come out of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Ive always suspected for a while that money laundering was going on at the likes of City,Chelsea,PSG etc its got to be man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 you know I honestly don't give half a shit about City PSG etc ignoring FFP rules Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Unbelievable reading all that, football is well and truly fucked. The most insane thing about all of this is you can guarantee not a single fucking punishment of substance will come out of this. Exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Need to find a way of bringing fan ownership universally it’s the only thing that will save football imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Aye. “Now Manchester City, you’ve been very naughty, we want you to think of an appropriate punishment and ensure that you enact this. We won’t be checking to see if you did so we’re trusting that this will be done” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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