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jackyboy

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These clubs are not the big six in football terms. Arsenal and Spurs have been dreadful and so have Real Madrid who are playing in a league similar to the SPL with only 2 teams capable of winning their league. No, what the big six are is the six greediest owners

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3 minutes ago, Nobody said:

According to the daily mail (I think) Boris Johnson is considering not giving work permits to the foreign players for these six teams should it happen :lol:

As well as not giving the policing certificates meaning they wouldn't legally be able to play games.

One rule I saw floating around yesterday was making the Super League a Designated event, meaning the ESL games would have to be shown on terrestrial TV, and the clubs then lose a load of money from TV deals.

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2 minutes ago, jackyboy said:

These clubs are not the big six in football terms. Arsenal and Spurs have been dreadful and so have Real Madrid who are playing in a league similar to the SPL with only 2 teams capable of winning their league. No, what the big six are is the six greediest owners

This is a strange take. How have Real Madrid been dreadful? They're in the CL semis and have won 4 CLs in the last decade. Also who is leading that 2 team league at the moment?

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I'm actually quite disgusted at how little self awareness these 12 clubs are displaying. They are not even the 12 best clubs in Europe at this point in time (the current CL champion and runner up are not in), let alone looking at the past. 

Since the start of the competition the CL or its predecessor was won by a non-founding club 19 times. Another 35 times the final was lost by a non-founding club. Combined in 66 finals 45 times at least one non-founding club was involved.

Clubs like Ajax (4 wins, 2 lost finals) and Benfica (2 wins, 5 lost finals) are not even considered, yet their heritage in top level European competition makes a mockery of the likes of Arsenal's and Tottenham's with only one lost final to their names each.

In recent decades the top clubs in the biggest competitions have been able to tilt the playing field massively in their favour through sheer commercial weight, disturbing the balance of what was a pretty fair game where 11 lads of two clubs turned up to kick a ball around and see who's best. Any half talented Dutch or Portuguese player nowadays has left the country before they've even broken through for their club such is the financial disparity. And rather than fixing this, these 12 clubs, some of which can barely hold a candle to their commercially smaller counterparts without going into massive amounts of debt, decide for themselves to start a closed shop competition to make the gap even bigger?

Fuck the lot of them. Expel them from the leagues and existing European competition altogether right now and let their places be taken by more deserving teams that are committed to fair competition, while they get their ass sued by the EU for competition law infringement.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said:

All they've done is looked at the Deloitte Football Money League and taken the top teams from that.

Aye, the top 15 are these 12 and Bayern, PSG and Dortmund who have rejected it. There's literally nothing more to it

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6 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said:

That's what Charnley's been doing all morning instead of attending this meeting.

I hope so, he’ll have gone up in my estimations.

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  • "UEFA is a monopoly but it needs to be more transparent. We want to save football for the next 20 years, it is in a time of serious danger. If you win, you receive €120 to € 130m from UEFA but with #SuperLeague we will earn much more".

Perez really needs a PR person.

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So, a very well connected dude I know has been told the ESL lot have a big media platform behind them (he thinks Amazon, doesn't know for sure) that wants to have high level sports globally and this is the way to secure them - since CL rights are sold piecemeal for each country.

 

 

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According to a graph on the BBC, Madrid's revenue has gone from around 700m to around 600m during covid. With similar relative drops for other clubs. That shouldn't cause an existential threat to your business, surely?

Seems like football clubs are just really badly managed, and overspend for no good reason other than the culture they themselves have established. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, BlueStar said:

 

ikr?

Indeed. I know it's almost a secondary battle at the moment given we're on the brink of 'the end of football as we know it', but there really needs to be more scrutiny than ever on the regulators and associations that have let this happen. Launching anger and hatred at the financiers and schemers who have come up with this is like us unloading all of our anger at Steve Bruce. They warrant the hatred, certainly, but ultimately it's the powers that be who are to blame for us being in this position.

When this inevitably sorts itself out, which I believe it will, their needs to be more pressure then ever on the way football has been allowed to become dictated by investors who care nothing for the game itself. This is the proof of how the power has totally shifted. Chickens coming home to roost, big time. 

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I don't think they realise that a glorified exhibition league is not particularly appealing. 

Even in the US the franchise format only works due to the draft which you would t have here. 

Its not like it's a appealing concept and I'm opposed on moral grounds, it's a fundamentally shit concept.

Obviously I am also opposed on moral grounds.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

According to a graph on the BBC, Madrid's revenue has gone from around 700m to around 600m during covid. With similar relative drops for other clubs. That shouldn't cause an existential threat to your business, surely?

Seems like football clubs are just really badly managed, and overspend for no good reason other than the culture they themselves have established. 

its an existential threat when your up to your gills in debt and decided to start a renovation project on your stadium when theres no guarantee when fans can return and at what capacity in the next few years 

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2 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said:

I don't think they realise that a glorified exhibition league is not particularly appealing. 

Even in the US the franchise format only works due to the draft which you would t have here. 

Its not like it's a appealing concept and I'm opposed on moral grounds, it's a fundamentally shit concept.

honestly one of the things I don't get and maybe the amercians on here can explain it to me what the fuck is the appeal of the regular season in nfl etc 

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