cp40 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Like Ian says there's very little difference between the bottom six sides, other then luck that is, something that's dragged the likes of Stoke and Sunderland out of the bottom three and put us right in there. yeah, its lucky for stoke thier players care,...its unlucky for us ours dont give as shit,.... Luck plays a part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Like Ian says there's very little difference between the bottom six sides, other then luck that is, something that's dragged the likes of Stoke and Sunderland out of the bottom three and put us right in there. yeah, its lucky for stoke thier players care,...its unlucky for us ours dont give as shit,.... Luck plays a part. Well that as well like But I was talking about the decisions that have gone for them and against us. Stoke have five points more then they should have this season and we have five less then we should according to rightresult.net. I'm not going to complain that its unfair if we go down, because we should be good enough to stay up despite luck, but I'm not going to pretend that luck hasn't played a part either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 That rightresult website is a pile of shite tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 We are stayin' up, say we are stayin' up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 That rightresult website is a pile of shite tbf. What makes it a pile of shite then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 That rightresult website is a pile of shite tbf. What makes it a pile of shite then? Well unless it only counts decisions that were made right on the final whistle, they can't possibly predict what would have happened in a match just by pulling out one goal or whatever. The course of the game may have been completely different. It's ridiculously simplistic, and as a result a complete waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Well obviously they can't see the past and future and know how every game would change based on decisions during the game, that doesn't make it shite for fuck sake It just means you shouldn't take it 100% literally. I mean if we were 1:0 down against Villa needing a draw to stay up and we got a goal disallowed incorrectly I doubt anyone here would be saying "ah but if it was allowed Villa may have scored again".. All it does is give you a good indicating of what kind of crucial decisions sides have had go for and against them during the season. I think we'll all agree we've had some bad decisions go against us, however its interesting to see what other clubs have had the rub of the green or otherwise and that site seems like the best source available for that info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 I was referring to you mentioning we 'should have' x many points or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=643825&&&cc=5739 An Arsenal fan hung himself following his team's 4-1 aggregate drubbing by arch-rivals Manchester United in the Champions League semi-final, police said. Empics Arsenal lost 3-1 to United in the second leg of their semi-final tie. Suleiman Alphonso Omondi, a 29-year-old Kenyan living in the capital Nairobi's Embakasi neighbourhood, hanged himself in his Arsenal shirt after the match. "We were watching the match at Bamba 70 pub, and when Arsenal was defeated, Suleiman just walked out in protest and he was crying," Calvin Otieno, one of his friends, said. "We didn't know he was going to hang himself until this morning when we received the reports and came here to find his body at the balcony," Otieno said outside the deceased's home. Arsenal slumped to a 3-1 defeat at home in the second leg of the Champions League semi-final, capping a disappointing season for the Gunners who were already out of the Premier League title race early in the season. imagine if we go down.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 I was referring to you claiming we 'should have' x many points or whatever. I said according to that site we should have five more which shows that we've been unlucky and Stoke have been lucky this season. I don't literally think we deserve exactly five points more or anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 I was referring to you claiming we 'should have' x many points or whatever. Ah right, I said according to that site we should have five more, in other words that site says we've been unlucky and Stoke have been lucky, no way would I claim we should literally have five points more though. I edited my post a bit because I realise you didn't claim it as such. It might be a decent source of info on dodgy decisions, fair enough. I just find the concept of changing the results to the 'right result' in such a simple way a load of rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 That's just fucking insane! EDIT: Not replying to you there by the way Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest BooBoo Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 We've as much chance of staying up as a badly placed priceless vase in a "Beadle's About" sketch where some clown is left in charge of a china shop and a family of gruesomely obese buffoons pay a visit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Changed my vote to a 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 I'm still on an 8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 According to Paul Montgomery (who used to scout for us and now scouts for Birmingham) they've made enquiries about Owen, Viduka and Bassong and were told that all 3 WILL leave and have clubs lined up for the summer with Owen to Man City, Bassong to Arsenal and Viduka undecided It would sound like the ultimate in lazy journalism if it were journalism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Owen and Viduka will go either way, Bassong would also leave if we went down IMO. If we do go down we should be making sure we get a large fee for someone like Bassong though, he'll be on a small contract so its not like we need to get rid of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 we shouldn't allow Bassong to go anywhere to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 we shouldn't allow Bassong to go anywhere to be honest Good luck with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broonalegeordie Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 the wifes just told me she put £100 on us to go down, which was matched by another £100 by ladbrokes online offer thing.... that was at christmas, got 7/2 i think she said, so should return decent money if we go down. but this bet makes me think we will stay up now... i cant see how boro or fulham will beat us!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 the wifes just told me she put £100 on us to go down. http://www.ukdivorcelawyers.co.uk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 the wifes just told me she put £100 on us to go down, which was matched by another £100 by ladbrokes online offer thing.... that was at christmas, got 7/2 i think she said, so should return decent money if we go down. but this bet makes me think we will stay up now... i cant see how boro or fulham will beat us!! Hope u fuckin kicked off with her, putting a fuckin ton on us gannin down? crackin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 According to Paul Montgomery (who used to scout for us and now scouts for Birmingham) they've made enquiries about Owen, Viduka and Bassong and were told that all 3 WILL leave and have clubs lined up for the summer with Owen to Man City, Bassong to Arsenal and Viduka undecided It would sound like the ultimate in lazy journalism if it were journalism yeah, fuckin superb ITK stuff from Montgomery. Owen to Man C, Bassong to Arsenal, and Viduka to Oz, wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broonalegeordie Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 the wifes just told me she put £100 on us to go down. http://www.ukdivorcelawyers.co.uk/ cheers mate... she has said she will buy me a ST with the 'winnings' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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