madras Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 If we stay up, no club will have deserved it less and achieved it rubbish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 the amount of goals we score is in our own hands the amount they score isn't......is it possible for us to win all 3 and go down ? Yes, but the amount they score won't matter if we score more. It's in our hands. hull can say exactly the same,as can boro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 the amount of goals we score is in our own hands the amount they score isn't......is it possible for us to win all 3 and go down ? Yes, but the amount they score won't matter if we score more. It's in our hands. hull can say exactly the same,as can boro. yes, but we have the better goal difference already so it is in our own hands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 the amount of goals we score is in our own hands the amount they score isn't......is it possible for us to win all 3 and go down ? Yes, but the amount they score won't matter if we score more. It's in our hands. hull can say exactly the same,as can boro. yes, but we have the better goal difference already so it is in our own hands it's in and out of the hands of all three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 tbf, none of the teams at the bottom deserve to stay up. I've never seen 5 teams so desperate to be relegated in all my life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 tbf, none of the teams at the bottom deserve to stay up. I've never seen 5 teams so desperate to be relegated in all my life. Agree but at least we have the excuse of all the turmoil. What are the other teams excuses? Sunderland with Keane leaving improved their results! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 can someone give me an example of a team worse than us that has stayed up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 can someone give me an example of a team worse than us that have stayed up? Bolton for many years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 tbf, none of the teams at the bottom deserve to stay up. I've never seen 5 teams so desperate to be relegated in all my life. Agree but at least we have the excuse of all the turmoil. What are the other teams excuses? Sunderland with Keane leaving improved their results! They don't have a 50k wage budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Albert Square Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 can someone give me an example of a team worse than us that have stayed up? Not sure about this season but previously West Brom, they were just awful that year of the "great escape". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 bradford, west brom (last time), blackburn (this season) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Blackburn are worse than us? Have a word man they've done the double over us and looked a well functioning outift since Allardyce took charge. Horrible football but they've won 4 games since our last win EDIT: 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Blackburn are worse than us? Have a word man they've done the double over us and looked a well functioning outift since Allardyce took charge. Horrible football but they've won 4 games since our last win Our problem is that we have drawn a lot of games. We have the least number of wins out of all the teams. If we go down that will be one of the main reasons and it would be hard to complain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Blackburn are worse than us? Have a word man they've done the double over us and looked a well functioning outift since Allardyce took charge. Horrible football but they've won 4 games since our last win Our problem is that we have drawn a lot of games. We have the least number of wins out of all the teams. If we go down that will be one of the main reasons and it would be hard to complain. Its funny, thats the reason why teams are relegated every season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Blackburn are worse than us? Have a word man they've done the double over us and looked a well functioning outift since Allardyce took charge. Horrible football but they've won 4 games since our last win Our problem is that we have drawn a lot of games. We have the least number of wins out of all the teams. If we go down that will be one of the main reasons and it would be hard to complain. Its funny, thats the reason why teams are relegated every season Take it literally why don't you? The point is we can't complain about being where we are because based on wins we are the worst team in the league at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 West Brom are creeping up the blindside. In the unlikely event they beat Liverpool they're in line for one of the greatest escapes yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 We have been an utter shambles of an outfit for a few years now but you have to factor in the seemingly never ending crisis this club has been in which in more ways than one has effected on pitch performances and our overall position in the league. We are where we are in the league in the main thanks to such problems off the pitch. Managerial changes, coaches coming and going, takeovers and continued under investment in the playing staff despite a huge turnover of players cannot be a healthy existence for any set of players regardless of their talent which we severely lack. If we stay up we will have deserved it, just as we'll deserve to go down should we. I mean had KK stayed, does anyone think we'd be where we are now? Had Shearer been brought in much earlier perhaps safety would have resulted weeks ago. Had Venables arrived instead of Kinnear. Had Ashley spent some money and so on and so on. While those players are obviously not good enough and haven't been for a while, many many factors outside of them has played arguably a bigger role in our demise or drop to the relegation spots and potentially relegation full stop. If we do survive, with all that has gone on and with these players we really MUST take advantage of what will feel like a miracle because as far back as Stoke at home when a former Mag equalised in the dying minutes I thought fate was conspiring against us and that we were heading one way only and events since haven't exactly made me feel any different, indeed more nailed on. So if we do somehow survive I truly hope all concerned use this lesson if you want to call it that as a yardstick to finally do what is needed and what is right by this great club of ours which has only ever needed a good manager being backed to the hilt and not necessarily in the transfer market either. A good manager will be able to more than survive on a reasonable budget as KK and Sir Bobby proved in their respective time here, spending what turned out to be something like a net spend of £8m per season or something. I hope that man can be Alan Shearer, one of us. Roll on the 'Boro and with any luck 3 points. Anything less just won't do. COME ON NEWCASTLE! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Oh and I'm now on a 9 from a 10. Beat 'Boro and it will be a 7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Blackburn are worse than us? Have a word man they've done the double over us and looked a well functioning outift since Allardyce took charge. Horrible football but they've won 4 games since our last win Our problem is that we have drawn a lot of games. We have the least number of wins out of all the teams. If we go down that will be one of the main reasons and it would be hard to complain. Its funny, thats the reason why teams are relegated every season Take it literally why don't you? The point is we can't complain about being where we are because based on wins we are the worst team in the league at the moment. anly pulling ya pisser man, your right btw, we cant complain if we go down anyway, cos the club is a fucking shambles from pillar to pisspot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Oh and I'm now on a 9 from a 10. Beat 'Boro and it will be a 7. Anything above a 5 means its more likely than not that we go down. So if we beat boro I would say that we are more likely to stay up than Hull - so I've gone from a 8 to a 6 today, and will move to a 4 if we beat boro! Who can possibly still be on a 9 or 10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 We have been an utter shambles of an outfit for a few years now but you have to factor in the seemingly never ending crisis this club has been in which in more ways than one has effected on pitch performances and our overall position in the league. We are where we are in the league in the main thanks to such problems off the pitch. Managerial changes, coaches coming and going, takeovers and continued under investment in the playing staff despite a huge turnover of players cannot be a healthy existence for any set of players regardless of their talent which we severely lack. If we stay up we will have deserved it, just as we'll deserve to go down should we. I mean had KK stayed, does anyone think we'd be where we are now? Had Shearer been brought in much earlier perhaps safety would have resulted weeks ago. Had Venables arrived instead of Kinnear. Had Ashley spent some money and so on and so on. While those players are obviously not good enough and haven't been for a while, many many factors outside of them has played arguably a bigger role in our demise or drop to the relegation spots and potentially relegation full stop. If we do survive, with all that has gone on and with these players we really MUST take advantage of what will feel like a miracle because as far back as Stoke at home when a former Mag equalised in the dying minutes I thought fate was conspiring against us and that we were heading one way only and events since haven't exactly made me feel any different, indeed more nailed on. So if we do somehow survive I truly hope all concerned use this lesson if you want to call it that as a yardstick to finally do what is needed and what is right by this great club of ours which has only ever needed a good manager being backed to the hilt and not necessarily in the transfer market either. A good manager will be able to more than survive on a reasonable budget as KK and Sir Bobby proved in their respective time here, spending what turned out to be something like a net spend of £8m per season or something. I hope that man can be Alan Shearer, one of us. Roll on the 'Boro and with any luck 3 points. Anything less just won't do. COME ON NEWCASTLE! the players are equally as responsible with many of them living on their reputations at this club, so saying that they are not good enough won't wash with me or many others tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 We have been an utter shambles of an outfit for a few years now but you have to factor in the seemingly never ending crisis this club has been in which in more ways than one has effected on pitch performances and our overall position in the league. We are where we are in the league in the main thanks to such problems off the pitch. Managerial changes, coaches coming and going, takeovers and continued under investment in the playing staff despite a huge turnover of players cannot be a healthy existence for any set of players regardless of their talent which we severely lack. If we stay up we will have deserved it, just as we'll deserve to go down should we. I mean had KK stayed, does anyone think we'd be where we are now? Had Shearer been brought in much earlier perhaps safety would have resulted weeks ago. Had Venables arrived instead of Kinnear. Had Ashley spent some money and so on and so on. While those players are obviously not good enough and haven't been for a while, many many factors outside of them has played arguably a bigger role in our demise or drop to the relegation spots and potentially relegation full stop. If we do survive, with all that has gone on and with these players we really MUST take advantage of what will feel like a miracle because as far back as Stoke at home when a former Mag equalised in the dying minutes I thought fate was conspiring against us and that we were heading one way only and events since haven't exactly made me feel any different, indeed more nailed on. So if we do somehow survive I truly hope all concerned use this lesson if you want to call it that as a yardstick to finally do what is needed and what is right by this great club of ours which has only ever needed a good manager being backed to the hilt and not necessarily in the transfer market either. A good manager will be able to more than survive on a reasonable budget as KK and Sir Bobby proved in their respective time here, spending what turned out to be something like a net spend of £8m per season or something. I hope that man can be Alan Shearer, one of us. Roll on the 'Boro and with any luck 3 points. Anything less just won't do. COME ON NEWCASTLE! Just because players aren't good enough doesn't excuse them for the lack of effort they put in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I can't see that next season will be much fun if we stay up to be fair! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovineblue Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Down from a 9 to an 8. Goes to a 5 if we beat boro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yet again the results have gone for us. We're a win and a draw away from staying up imo. I reckon we'll do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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