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TRon

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3 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

 

Alternatively Howe and the club could pander to the crying mob demanding instant gratification? 

 

Think they've done pretty well "nurturing" joint enterprise enough to be cut some slack.

Seems a canny chunk have fell at the first hurdle. 

Bit surprised you're one of them tbf

 

Howe himself seems to be pretty pissed at not having got at least a new CB in. Looks like he's giving interviews through gritted teeth in the last couple of weeks.

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1 hour ago, NEEJ said:

Gaslighting? Howay, man. I watched it live and it didn't come across like that to me at all. I think it was obvious he wasn't happy with our lack of signings, and he said that. 

 

He was asked the same question multiple times as usual, so ends up trying to give a slightly different answer to each reporter. The Irish lad asked him an absolutely pitiful question that was a straight up duplicate of a previous question, but without a contextual follow-up. "What lessons have been learned?..." 

I don’t mean just that interview - I mean the whole transfer window. I don’t think Howe or the club have been up front with fans. I just don’t accept that there’s only a small pool of players that improve our team. His hissy fit about Mitchell set a needlessly awkward tone and came across as an unwelcome power play to me. As I said earlier, I’ve no idea what’s gone on, but in my opinion (and it’s only an opinion) Howe hasn’t helped himself this window. 

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Just now, TRon said:

 

Howe himself seems to be pretty pissed at not having got at least a new CB in. Looks like he's giving interviews through gritted teeth in the last couple of weeks.

He's had a face like a dropped quiche for about 3 month tbh.

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Kid Icarus

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1 minute ago, Groundhog63 said:

 

Alternatively Howe and the club could pander to the crying mob demanding instant gratification? 

 

Think they've done pretty well "nurturing" joint enterprise enough to be cut some slack.

Seems a canny chunk have fell at the first hurdle. 

Bit surprised you're one of them tbf

 

This is just a ridiculous framing of it tbh. To suggest that being critical of what's happened in this transfer window is 'a crying mob demanding instant gratification' when Howe himself has admitted it's been shite is a deliberate misrepresentation of completely valid criticisms to try and disregard them as petty entitlement. 

 

The surprise you have for me not being part of a crying mob demanding instant gratification is mutually held for you in terms of me being surprised you'd resort to such utter tosh. 

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Geogaddi

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From the quotes below it sounds like we have tried to sign a few players but it's not happened , as Eddie implies you don't just buy players for the sake of it when we have PSR concerns and the player you are buying isn't much better than what you already have.

 

Howe was asked at his Press conference if Newcastle wasted too much time on one player. He said: "Without going into the individual situation here, we've tried to sign several players. It's never been about one player. It can never be about one player, because as soon as you're in that position, then your negotiation strength is over.

So, no, we've tried for several targets, but it still has to be the right player though. And there isn't an unlimited number of players. It's not like you can, well, we'll just go on to the next one, the next one, the next one. Because then the quality dilutes and then you have to question whether you're doing the right thing for the long-term future of the club.

"There isn't a bottomless pit of money. We're not able to spend that way. Everything that we do has a long-term consequence. So you've got to be very sure whatever you do is right for the long-term future and short-term future of the club."

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39 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said:

Really don't know what to think tbh. I don't think Ashworth/Mitchell had grand plans of signing DCL, Kilman, Trafford, Kelly but then I have no evidence to suggest they're all Howe picks either. The comments KaKa highlighted from that Bournemouth fan do concern me, though.

 

I'll find it ever hard to say a bad word about Howe. If there's anybody who would be the one in charge when (probably more if) we eventually win something, I'd want it to be him. Absolutely adore the bloke.

 

But if it becomes apparent he's unable to work with a Sporting Director or is insistent that the targets are identified by him/Tindall/his nephew I think it will put us in a really tricky situation. Having a Fergie type gaffer who runs the club from top down is a dated model in 2024. I'm not saying players should be forced upon a manager - he should definitely have a say if not the final say - but we certainly need to do a lot better in future windows. Even the most positive amongst NUFC fans couldn't possibly dress this window up as anything other than shambolic. I'm sorry but rewind 3 years to the summer of 2021 & we signed Ruddy, Kelly & Osula (we'd have obviously been used to it by that point) but we'd still be saying how utterly horrendous it is.

 

Totally understand we're held back by PSR and rules to protect the elite. I also don't think we're unambitious by any means. The rules are the reason we've not signed anyone, but it has still been an absolute shitshow. I hate to say it but there might be a few grumblings on Sunday if we put up a poor performance & get a bad result.

 

The really unfortunate thing is that with Howe being so good at working with players, getting the best out of them and bringing them along, in theory, it should be so great having a top DOF that brings in the talent for him to work with.

 

Might be that he's just not comfortable with that though, which would be a huge shame really. And with all Howe has going for him, it could end up limiting how far he goes as a manager.

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53 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Us all being united is something that has to be nutured, you can't just say we need to do it and it'll happen. With the best will in the world if the fans think you and the club have fucked up and left us weaker for it, the belief that's needed to drive it can't be faked. 


Agreed, if it repeatedly happens, sure. But one bad summer shouldn’t spark a revolt in the fan base. It’s just fucking childish.

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4 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:


Agreed, if it repeatedly happens, sure. But one bad summer shouldn’t spark a revolt in the fan base. It’s just fucking childish.

 

Aye, but you're using over the same over the top language there. There wouldn't be a fan revolt, that's not remotely realistic. Criticism? Absolutely, and it's fully warranted

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Just now, Kid Icarus said:

 

Aye, but you're using over the same over the top language there. There wouldn't be a fan revolt, that's not remotely realistic. Criticism? Absolutely, and it's fully warranted


Have you seen the state of Twitter this morning? “Heads need to roll”… sounds like the start of a pathetic revolt to me.

 

Criticism is fine and as things stand, warranted, but the messages to Eales and Rueben… it’s pathetic.

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Kid Icarus

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6 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:


Have you seen the state of Twitter this morning? “Heads need to roll”… sounds like the start of a pathetic revolt to me.

 

Criticism is fine and as things stand, warranted, but the messages to Eales and Rueben… it’s pathetic.

 

That's not what a revolt is though. You're talking about people going overboard and then doing the same thing :lol: Daft shites on Twitter will always be daft shites and don't represent the majority of fans, even then they're not going to all stop supporting the club or anything approaching that en masse. That lot couldn't bother their arses to do it under Ashley for 14 years, they're not going to do it now. They'll bitch and moan online and that'll be as far as it goes. 
 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Howe himself seems to be pretty pissed at not having got at least a new CB in. Looks like he's giving interviews through gritted teeth in the last couple of weeks.

Maybees he's just sick of the press group asking shit stirring questions. 

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Groundhog63

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43 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

This is just a ridiculous framing of it tbh. To suggest that being critical of what's happened in this transfer window is 'a crying mob demanding instant gratification' when Howe himself has admitted it's been shite is a deliberate misrepresentation of completely valid criticisms to try and disregard them as petty entitlement. 

 

The surprise you have for me not being part of a crying mob demanding instant gratification is mutually held for you in terms of me being surprised you'd resort to such utter tosh. 

 

In my defence, today of all days is tosh day. 

 

 

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From today's prezza:

 

"We’re working well, in respect of our relationships. I think that is fine, there are no issues there. Of course, turning that into transfers, I’ve said all summer that I’m not involved in negotiations for players, that is separate to me. So, hopefully, that answers the question.

 

'You have to understand that in the majority of the other windows, the whole structure of the club has been different, so that is not necessarily a criticism of the structure we have now. There are different personalities and there’s a different way of working now. Yes, it probably has been the most hands off I’ve been, but that’s not necessarily a negative.’

 

He added: ‘All together we want to find the right solutions, but they have to be the right solutions. The worst thing we could do is bring the wrong players into the football club. That would cause harm for a long time, so it’s always about the right players.

 

‘It's never about one player, we've tried for numerous players. But there's not a bottomless pit of names. There's probably four or five players that you go through and, once you get to the end of that, you're then going, is this player of sufficient quality?"

 

When asked about the mood of the stressing room:

 

"If I’m being honest, it probably mirrors the narrative created and it’s my job to shape that in the most powerful way that I can,’

 

'What I mean by that is there’s been a number of unsettled players during this window. It’s not been a clear window for us in terms of just bringing players in. It’s been difficult the other way as well. So I think once the window shuts we’ll have clarity. The players will have clarity. “Right, we’re all here now together for the same aim”, and then I’d like to think we will all go together until January in the pursuit of excellence and in the pursuit of success.

 

'We have some brilliant characters in the squad and a great changing room, so there is no criticism of the changing room. It’s just it has been unsettling. That’s always difficult when the situation is like that."

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3 minutes ago, andycap said:

Makes you wonder why we didn't pay tosin higher wages to makesure we got him through the door. 

When our alternative was to howk 65 million on Guehi. 


Well, its wages and signing on fee and agent fee that probably went above and beyond what we wanted to pay. Or, he just wanted to stay in London to go to Chelsea. 

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Just now, Kanji said:


Well, its wages and signing on fee and agent fee that probably went above and beyond what we wanted to pay. Or, he just wanted to stay in London to go to Chelsea. 

From reports chelsea didn't offer a great deal more on wages but we refused to match them. 

If we signed Guehi you'd expect him to be top earner with the price of the transfer. 

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