Eddie Howe

[janpawel]

Man City even with Rodri, still have someone support him in the middle, whether John Stones, Rico Lewis or a CM dropping in etc, it usually isn't just Rodri there left to defend that space all by himself, though when he is left to it, he is a lot quicker/stronger/taller than our Bruno 

 

Man City were even in for Declan Rice, now imagine a midfield 3 of Rodri/Rice and Silva/De Bruyne etc 

 

I guess my point is that even the best teams still value defensive stability and having someone in midfield who can do this

 

Bruno is our best DM, AM, best everything until Tonali shows me otherwise imo. Howe clearly rates his ability to beat the press and dictate our play more than anything 

 

I'll probably get pelters for this as not many rate him, but I reckon Amadou Onana would have been great for us he's young with great potential. With Bruno as an 8, he could drop deep to support and help build up our play, then has more freedom in the final third when we have possession in their half. Would make the most of his abilities and he'd have someone huge and athletic to help him against counters 

 

 

[janpawel]

@brummieHow has Onana been for you guys? 

[Holmesy]

29 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

IMO that was the players doing. Finding their own patterns. when the personnel changes we stop doing it or something really discernible.  
 

Our 8 push high and wide when we get the ball and we try and play the ball in those pockets. 

We often looked bereft of ideas going forward.  

 

If that is the case then fair play to them. That Trippier/Miggy partnership was one of the highlights of EH's reign - such great movement

[Holmesy]

14 minutes ago, janpawel said:

Man City even with Rodri, still have someone support him in the middle, whether John Stones, Rico Lewis or a CM dropping in etc, it usually isn't just Rodri there left to defend that space all by himself, though when he is left to it, he is a lot quicker/stronger/taller than our Bruno 

 

Man City were even in for Declan Rice, now imagine a midfield 3 of Rodri/Rice and Silva/De Bruyne etc 

 

I guess my point is that even the best teams still value defensive stability and having someone in midfield who can do this

 

Bruno is our best DM, AM, best everything until Tonali shows me otherwise imo. Howe clearly rates his ability to beat the press and dictate our play more than anything 

 

I'll probably get pelters for this as not many rate him, but I reckon Amadou Onana would have been great for us he's young with great potential. With Bruno as an 8, he could drop deep to support and help build up our play, then has more freedom in the final third when we have possession in their half. Would make the most of his abilities and he'd have someone huge and athletic to help him against counters 

 

 

Man City are so precise with their passing that they can afford to be a bit more high-risk because they ultimately have less defending to do. They also win the ball back quickly or commit cynical fouls in good positions to negate counter-attacks.

We lose the ball so often, and our players aren't quick enough to commit cynical fouls so we need defensive cover more than most.

I actually agree with you on Onana. I had no idea how good he was until I saw him play for Villa

[Memphis]

I wanted us to use Guehi as a Stones-esque CB/6, I think he's got the perfect profile to do that. We desperately need a platform to build from that isn't Bruno. He needs to be able to get more forward and make incisive passes into the final third. 

[Nine]

1 minute ago, Memphis said:

I wanted us to use Guehi as a Stones-esque CB/6, I think he's got the perfect profile to do that. We desperately need a platform to build from that isn't Bruno. He needs to be able to get more forward and make incisive passes into the final third. 

I totally agree with this and it’s why that signing was so important, however we should have had a back up plan that wasn’t a desperate bid for Elanga 

[nufc4eva]

The only other team to play 433 this weekend was spurs. Other teams mostly seem to play a 4231 now with a few 442 (Arsenal/Brighton) and 352 for palace, Man city play 4141 but have the players to do that.

 

Generally think we need to go 442 or 4231 to try and gain more control and link up midfield to attack, as a stop gap put Joelinton, Gordon or Tonali in that attacking mid role, get 2 players to sit deeper and at least try something different. Would give Hall/Livramento more room to attack as well. 

 

[janpawel]

24 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

Man City are so precise with their passing that they can afford to be a bit more high-risk because they ultimately have less defending to do. They also win the ball back quickly or commit cynical fouls in good positions to negate counter-attacks.

We lose the ball so often, and our players aren't quick enough to commit cynical fouls so we need defensive cover more than most.

I actually agree with you on Onana. I had no idea how good he was until I saw him play for Villa

Absolutely 

 

And in turn, I think this is the weakest Man City have been for a good fear years, and I thought this even before Rodri did his ACL. A lot of their midfielders are getting older / slower 

 

No wonder they wanted Rice, Bruno etc 

[DiddyLevine]

18 minutes ago, nufc4eva said:

The only other team to play 433 this weekend was spurs. Other teams mostly seem to play a 4231 now with a few 442 (Arsenal/Brighton) and 352 for palace, Man city play 4141 but have the players to do that.

 

Generally think we need to go 442 or 4231 to try and gain more control and link up midfield to attack, as a stop gap put Joelinton, Gordon or Tonali in that attacking mid role, get 2 players to sit deeper and at least try something different. Would give Hall/Livramento more room to attack as well. 

 

4 3 3 is athletics not football

[80]

6 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

With how long the club takes to do things, we may want to start interviewing now then if we want a replacement in by summer 

Realistically, yep.

[andycap]

Mitchell should be bringing in players to fix the weaknesses in the squad whether that be young players or ready made players. 

So a right winger centre half with pace. A new striker that offers more than isak. 

Take howe out of the equation as Mitchell is there for the long term philosophy of the way we wanna be run. 

[Kanj]

Barnes needs to reinvent himself as a RW. 

[timeEd32]

Just read this in an article about baseball, but it feels very appropriate after yesterday: players’ physical failures are easier to forgive than managers’ unforced mental missteps.

[OverThere]

2 hours ago, andycap said:

Mitchell should be bringing in players to fix the weaknesses in the squad whether that be young players or ready made players. 

So a right winger centre half with pace. A new striker that offers more than isak. 

Take howe out of the equation as Mitchell is there for the long term philosophy of the way we wanna be run. 

Correct. If you look at Brighton the manager/coach is somewhat interchangeable because the DOF has set out the strategy for the club. We shouldnt be in the position that we only have 1 serviceable striker, aging CBs and no PL level RW.

 

[Pata]

2 hours ago, andycap said:

A new striker that offers more than isak. 

Alright, good luck with that. He’s been out of form this season but fucking hell. 

[Pata]

5 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

The set pieces are atrocious and have been for a while.  I know there obviously is planning that goes into them, but it doesn't look like it.  It just seems like for corners, it is an inswinger aimed around the penalty spot or back post.

Everyone tries to copy what Arsenal do as they’ve been so dominant in corners. Burn just can’t attack the ball as well as Gabriel and Havertz do. Delivery shouldn’t be a problem with Hall on the other side and Trippier/Gordon/Tonali on the other.

 

 

Edited October 28, 2024 by Pata

[andycap]

15 minutes ago, Pata said:

Alright, good luck with that. He’s been out of form this season but fucking hell. 

I mean it's easy isak doesn't challenge for headers or give the centre half's a game physically. That would do. 

[andycap]

When we had rondon at the club even when isolated he was a nuisance that's what we need. 

[Holmesy]

2 hours ago, andycap said:

Mitchell should be bringing in players to fix the weaknesses in the squad whether that be young players or ready made players. 

So a right winger centre half with pace. A new striker that offers more than isak. 

Take howe out of the equation as Mitchell is there for the long term philosophy of the way we wanna be run. 

Most clubs in Europe would give their right arm to sign Isak.

Someone that offers something different to Isak makes sense but more??

[Shearergol]

6 minutes ago, andycap said:

When we had rondon at the club even when isolated he was a nuisance that's what we need. 

 

I'd rather solve the massive tactical issues that result in Isak being completely isolated before finding a striker who can cope with being isolated.

[PauloGeordio]

6 minutes ago, andycap said:

When we had rondon at the club even when isolated he was a nuisance that's what we need. 

Loved a bit of Rondon 🖤🤍

[Shearergol]

Just now, PauloGeordio said:

Loved a bit of Rondon 🖤🤍

 

Yeah he was class. That small moment in time where him, Perez and Almiron linked up was marvellous to watch.

[andycap]

Isak is a goalscorer and a real talent but as a striker he doesn't challenge for headers he doesn't rough defenders up he doesn't press a great deal his hold up play ain't great either. That's what I mean. Ba rondon mitrovic type that can bring others into the game. 

[Shearergol]

Just now, andycap said:

Isak is a goalscorer and a real talent but as a striker he doesn't challenge for headers he doesn't rough defenders up he doesn't press a great deal his hold up play ain't great either. That's what I mean. Ba rondon mitrovic type that can bring others into the game. 

 

Sure, there's a place for that in certain games. Wilson should be that player, but we know why he isn't and it's gonna be hard to do much about it.

[PauloGeordio]

Just now, Shearergol said:

 

Yeah he was class. That small moment in time where him, Perez and Almiron linked up was marvellous to watch.

It was indeed. Rafa moving that short blanket about