Ikon Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hovagod said: Bollocks to that. Most important game of the season so far. Ok. Let’s push them and risk months out. I’d start Trippier at a push. Krafth isn’t the same as a fit Trippier but I’d be tempted to start him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I'd be more interested in how many have been forced by injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Massive risk asking Wilson to start his 3rd game in a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Massive risk asking Wilson to start his 3rd game in a week. What are we playing for then? This is a massive game for the club, couple of games away from lifting a trophy. I'd rather have rested players against Fulham and Luton if that was to be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Be good to rest Gordon and Miggy at some point as they’re the two who look most dead on their feet to me. We have absolutely nobody to rotate them with though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 If there's any scope to rotate then we absolutely should. Of course it's an opportunity to lift a trophy but the weight of opportunity isn't determined exclusively by the very simple issue of number of games left to play. When you factor in the state of the squad, the fixture list ahead of us and the difficulty of the game itself, I wouldn't say the odds were so much in our favour that it would be absurd to de-prioritise it. The team is out on its feet already and we can't afford to lose any more key players. We have to remedy our away form if we've any hope of maintaining our position in the top 6 because there will come a point where SJP isn't a guaranteed three points. Luton (a) is a big chance to get the ball rolling where that's concerned, so we could do without having to recruit blokes from the stands to occupy one of the wings. Dubravka Krafth Lascelles Dummett Hall/Burn Bruno Longstaff Miley Tino Gordon Ritchie Rests for Trippier, Miggy and Wilson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: If there's any scope to rotate then we absolutely should. Of course it's an opportunity to lift a trophy but the weight of opportunity isn't determined exclusively by the very simple issue of number of games left to play. When you factor in the state of the squad, the fixture list ahead of us and the difficulty of the game itself, I wouldn't say the odds were so much in our favour that it would be absurd to de-prioritise it. The team is out on its feet already and we can't afford to lose any more key players. We have to remedy our away form if we've any hope of maintaining our position in the top 6 because there will come a point where SJP isn't a guaranteed three points. Luton (a) is a big chance to get the ball rolling where that's concerned, so we could do without having to recruit blokes from the stands to occupy one of the wings. Dubravka Krafth Lascelles Dummett Hall/Burn Bruno Longstaff Miley Tino Gordon Ritchie Rests for Trippier, Miggy and Wilson. What's the point in finishing further up the league If we aren't going to try and win trophies? Why priories Luton over this game? We'd have a greater chance of beating Luton with a weakened team then Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 It's not just prioritising the Luton game but the rest of the season. If we play Wilson again he'll explode and then we'll be back to being forced to playing an injured Isak until he returns. Likewise if Miggy/Gordon, who are playing every game, pick up an injury then we're looking at starting Matt Ritchie in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, The Butcher said: 66 subs made by wor Eddie. Would like to see the stats on when he makes subs. feel like 80% of those are Almiron for Murphy and Wilson for Isak or vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, WideopenMag said: What's the point in finishing further up the league If we aren't going to try and win trophies? Why priories Luton over this game? We'd have a greater chance of beating Luton with a weakened team then Chelsea. Luton are no mugs at Kenilworth Road by any means; they've pushed Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City all the way in consecutive home matches and are pretty unlucky to have come out of that with only one point. It's obviously a winnable game but so was Bournemouth, Wolves etc. The important caveat to assign to the pro-rotation argument is that we're blessed with an incredibly well-drilled system that players can fit into seamlessly. 'Rest Miggy' doesn't equate to 'throw the game', as would've been the case in years gone by. With Howe in the dugout I'd fancy us to get a result regardless of who we named. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Smal said: It's not just prioritising the Luton game but the rest of the season. If we play Wilson again he'll explode and then we'll be back to being forced to playing an injured Isak until he returns. Likewise if Miggy/Gordon, who are playing every game, pick up an injury then we're looking at starting Matt Ritchie in the Premier League. Can't approach games on the basis that players might get injured, we could rest them, get knocked out and they could get injured against Luton with that mind set? Edited December 18, 2023 by WideopenMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Yorkie said: If there's any scope to rotate then we absolutely should. Of course it's an opportunity to lift a trophy but the weight of opportunity isn't determined exclusively by the very simple issue of number of games left to play. When you factor in the state of the squad, the fixture list ahead of us and the difficulty of the game itself, I wouldn't say the odds were so much in our favour that it would be absurd to de-prioritise it. The team is out on its feet already and we can't afford to lose any more key players. We have to remedy our away form if we've any hope of maintaining our position in the top 6 because there will come a point where SJP isn't a guaranteed three points. Luton (a) is a big chance to get the ball rolling where that's concerned, so we could do without having to recruit blokes from the stands to occupy one of the wings. Dubravka Krafth Lascelles Dummett Hall/Burn Bruno Longstaff Miley Tino Gordon Ritchie Rests for Trippier, Miggy and Wilson. Trippier literally just had a rest, he has to start. I'm not convinced with Livra at RM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Luton are no mugs at Kenilworth Road by any means; they've pushed Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City all the way in consecutive home matches and are pretty unlucky to have come out of that with only one point. It's obviously a winnable game but so was Bournemouth, Wolves etc. The important caveat to assign to the pro-rotation argument is that we're blessed with an incredibly well-drilled system that players can fit into seamlessly. 'Rest Miggy' doesn't equate to 'throw the game', like would be the case in years gone by. With Howe in the dugout I'd fancy us to get a result regardless of who we named. I know theyre not, however I'd sooner win this and progress in the cup with a real opportunity to end our trophy drought than beat Luton in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, WideopenMag said: Can't approach games on the basis that players might get injured, we could rest them, get knocked out and they could get injured against Luton with that mind set? Most of them already are though. We're talking about not playing players who already have knocks/are exhausted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Most of them already are though. We're talking about not playing players who already have knocks/are exhausted. We're in the quater finals of a cup man ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 We're so close to the transfer window now that it's worth taking the risk, imo. We need to address the Isak-Wilson situation regardless, whether we solve it directly or give more options indirectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Fuck resting players in a quarter final man. Mental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, jonny1403 said: Trippier literally just had a rest, he has to start. I'm not convinced with Livra at RM. Well he missed the game at the weekend, aye. It's still less than a week since he played an incredibly intense match in the Champions League. Don't see any harm in letting Krafthu keep the spot warm before the Luton game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, mattypnufc said: Fuck resting players in a quarter final man. Mental Hilarious isn't it the negativity on here is off the scale people have lost the plot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, WideopenMag said: We're in the quater finals of a cup man ? I know, and I hope we go through. But when you consider how we fared against Man City and Man Utd with a heavily rotated side, I wouldn't necessarily bet against us even if - heaven forbid - Matt Ritchie plays instead of an utterly gassed Miggy Almiron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, WideopenMag said: Hilarious isn't it the negativity on here is off the scale people have lost the plot. Eh? Wtf are you on about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, Yorkie said: Eh? Wtf are you on about? People suggesting we rest or play a weaker team in the quater finals of a cup have lost the plot and are ridiculously negative. We may as well pack in now and not bother with the remainder of the season with that attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, WideopenMag said: Can't approach games on the basis that players might get injured, we could rest them, get knocked out and they could get injured against Luton with that mind set? they are less likely to pick up muscular injuries (like the ones Joelinton and Schar just picked up) Luton if they get a rest between now and then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, Smal said: they are less likely to pick up muscular injuries (like the ones Joelinton and Schar just picked up) Luton if they get a rest between now and then. Then we should have rested them against Fulham? a cup quater final is a lot bigger of a game than a league game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, WideopenMag said: People suggesting we rest or play a weaker team in the quater finals of a cup have lost the plot and are ridiculously negative. We may as well pack in now and not bother with the remainder of the season with that attitude. Christ. Another fun visit to the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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