The Prophet Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 For the benefit of the cheap seats. "I don't think it takes much of an internal investigation,” said the Magpies boss, who will once again assess the walking wounded before selecting his squad for Tuesday’s Carabao Cup quarter-final at Chelsea. “The problem we've had is because we've had injuries to start with. The early ones we picked up, it meant our squad has just not managed the games. “It’s been impossible to, we’ve had to pick the same players continually and eventually those players with the load that they’re playing under will break, so I think we’ve just been a victim of circumstance. “Don’t get me wrong, there have been mistakes made and there will always be mistakes made medically because it’s that kind of profession. You’re not going to get every assessment right. A lot of the time, you’re in the hands of the specialist. "But the weight of games we've had – and it’s still unrelenting for us – we just haven’t recovered properly.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 everton or spurs away, i would have been happy for him to play a weakened team. i know we're desperate for points but it may have helped is in the long run. luckily Eddie, like KK, isnt built like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Press conference on SSN just now, said: - Joelinton and Schar don't look too bad but he's reluctant to confirm that til they see the scan results today - Botman has recovered well, they need to decide if/when he's ready to start - Trippier will be in squad for Chelsea but has a knock, need to see how he is in training - Anderson went to a specialist for a review, injury is healing slowly - Targett is on target with rehab after surgery - Had some hard League Cup draws, determined to progress and create more memories - Have a bond with competition, thinks last year has helped us with the games this year - Game on Saturday was important mentally for us to re-focus, not be too emotional about setback versus Milan - All players are popular as there is a good camaraderie but certain players lift the team and Botman is one of those - Everyone at club rates Botman as a footballer highly, he gives confidence to everyone around him on the pitch - Isak had a scan last week, groin problem only minor but they are being cautious. Has a chance for tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) Rest Botman, Trippier and Isak against Chelsea no matter what please. Give Botman 20-25 minutes. Edited December 18, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Dubravka Krafth Lascelles Burn Livramento Miley Bruno Longstaff Miggy Wilson Gordon I think will be the team. Trippier might force himself onto the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, Ikon said: Rest Botman, Trippier and Isak against Chelsea no matter what please. Give Botman 20-25 minutes. Bollocks to that. Most important game of the season so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, Ikon said: Rest Botman, Trippier and Isak against Chelsea no matter what please. Give Botman 20-25 minutes. Out of any of them I think Gordon is desperate for a rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Would like to rotate some of the players that have played almost every game recently (Lascelles, Tino, Gordon etc), but also remain a competitive XI, something like: Karius Krafth Dummett Burn Hall (if he eligible, Tino if not) Miley Longstaff Bruno Ritchie Miggy Wilson/ Parkinson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, 54 said: Would like to rotate some of the players that have played almost every game recently (Lascelles, Tino, Gordon etc), but also remain a competitive XI, something like: Karius Krafth Dummett Burn Hall (if he eligible, Tino if not) Miley Longstaff Bruno Ritchie Miggy Wilson/ Parkinson Wtf is that shit 😂 this is now the biggest game of our season and a real opportunity to win a trophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 66 subs made by wor Eddie. Would like to see the stats on when he makes subs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hovagod said: Bollocks to that. Most important game of the season so far. Ok. Let’s push them and risk months out. I’d start Trippier at a push. Krafth isn’t the same as a fit Trippier but I’d be tempted to start him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I'd be more interested in how many have been forced by injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Massive risk asking Wilson to start his 3rd game in a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Massive risk asking Wilson to start his 3rd game in a week. What are we playing for then? This is a massive game for the club, couple of games away from lifting a trophy. I'd rather have rested players against Fulham and Luton if that was to be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Be good to rest Gordon and Miggy at some point as they’re the two who look most dead on their feet to me. We have absolutely nobody to rotate them with though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 If there's any scope to rotate then we absolutely should. Of course it's an opportunity to lift a trophy but the weight of opportunity isn't determined exclusively by the very simple issue of number of games left to play. When you factor in the state of the squad, the fixture list ahead of us and the difficulty of the game itself, I wouldn't say the odds were so much in our favour that it would be absurd to de-prioritise it. The team is out on its feet already and we can't afford to lose any more key players. We have to remedy our away form if we've any hope of maintaining our position in the top 6 because there will come a point where SJP isn't a guaranteed three points. Luton (a) is a big chance to get the ball rolling where that's concerned, so we could do without having to recruit blokes from the stands to occupy one of the wings. Dubravka Krafth Lascelles Dummett Hall/Burn Bruno Longstaff Miley Tino Gordon Ritchie Rests for Trippier, Miggy and Wilson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: If there's any scope to rotate then we absolutely should. Of course it's an opportunity to lift a trophy but the weight of opportunity isn't determined exclusively by the very simple issue of number of games left to play. When you factor in the state of the squad, the fixture list ahead of us and the difficulty of the game itself, I wouldn't say the odds were so much in our favour that it would be absurd to de-prioritise it. The team is out on its feet already and we can't afford to lose any more key players. We have to remedy our away form if we've any hope of maintaining our position in the top 6 because there will come a point where SJP isn't a guaranteed three points. Luton (a) is a big chance to get the ball rolling where that's concerned, so we could do without having to recruit blokes from the stands to occupy one of the wings. Dubravka Krafth Lascelles Dummett Hall/Burn Bruno Longstaff Miley Tino Gordon Ritchie Rests for Trippier, Miggy and Wilson. What's the point in finishing further up the league If we aren't going to try and win trophies? Why priories Luton over this game? We'd have a greater chance of beating Luton with a weakened team then Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 It's not just prioritising the Luton game but the rest of the season. If we play Wilson again he'll explode and then we'll be back to being forced to playing an injured Isak until he returns. Likewise if Miggy/Gordon, who are playing every game, pick up an injury then we're looking at starting Matt Ritchie in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, The Butcher said: 66 subs made by wor Eddie. Would like to see the stats on when he makes subs. feel like 80% of those are Almiron for Murphy and Wilson for Isak or vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, WideopenMag said: What's the point in finishing further up the league If we aren't going to try and win trophies? Why priories Luton over this game? We'd have a greater chance of beating Luton with a weakened team then Chelsea. Luton are no mugs at Kenilworth Road by any means; they've pushed Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City all the way in consecutive home matches and are pretty unlucky to have come out of that with only one point. It's obviously a winnable game but so was Bournemouth, Wolves etc. The important caveat to assign to the pro-rotation argument is that we're blessed with an incredibly well-drilled system that players can fit into seamlessly. 'Rest Miggy' doesn't equate to 'throw the game', as would've been the case in years gone by. With Howe in the dugout I'd fancy us to get a result regardless of who we named. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Smal said: It's not just prioritising the Luton game but the rest of the season. If we play Wilson again he'll explode and then we'll be back to being forced to playing an injured Isak until he returns. Likewise if Miggy/Gordon, who are playing every game, pick up an injury then we're looking at starting Matt Ritchie in the Premier League. Can't approach games on the basis that players might get injured, we could rest them, get knocked out and they could get injured against Luton with that mind set? Edited December 18, 2023 by WideopenMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Yorkie said: If there's any scope to rotate then we absolutely should. Of course it's an opportunity to lift a trophy but the weight of opportunity isn't determined exclusively by the very simple issue of number of games left to play. When you factor in the state of the squad, the fixture list ahead of us and the difficulty of the game itself, I wouldn't say the odds were so much in our favour that it would be absurd to de-prioritise it. The team is out on its feet already and we can't afford to lose any more key players. We have to remedy our away form if we've any hope of maintaining our position in the top 6 because there will come a point where SJP isn't a guaranteed three points. Luton (a) is a big chance to get the ball rolling where that's concerned, so we could do without having to recruit blokes from the stands to occupy one of the wings. Dubravka Krafth Lascelles Dummett Hall/Burn Bruno Longstaff Miley Tino Gordon Ritchie Rests for Trippier, Miggy and Wilson. Trippier literally just had a rest, he has to start. I'm not convinced with Livra at RM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Luton are no mugs at Kenilworth Road by any means; they've pushed Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City all the way in consecutive home matches and are pretty unlucky to have come out of that with only one point. It's obviously a winnable game but so was Bournemouth, Wolves etc. The important caveat to assign to the pro-rotation argument is that we're blessed with an incredibly well-drilled system that players can fit into seamlessly. 'Rest Miggy' doesn't equate to 'throw the game', like would be the case in years gone by. With Howe in the dugout I'd fancy us to get a result regardless of who we named. I know theyre not, however I'd sooner win this and progress in the cup with a real opportunity to end our trophy drought than beat Luton in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, WideopenMag said: Can't approach games on the basis that players might get injured, we could rest them, get knocked out and they could get injured against Luton with that mind set? Most of them already are though. We're talking about not playing players who already have knocks/are exhausted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Most of them already are though. We're talking about not playing players who already have knocks/are exhausted. We're in the quater finals of a cup man 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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