RobsonsWonderland Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Zero said: 1 point from Luton for the whole season is unacceptable imo. Nearly up there with Derby in their worst ever season ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I could see the point of Burn starting. He can get caught out by pace early on but he often makes the adjustments, even against the very best of wide players. There was a point quite early on in the match though where you could see trouble really brewing. And we did nothing to mitigate it. In fact, given we didn't really try to hold up play further up the pitch, our wide forwards were often too far up to help Burn. He often needs help with one vs one situations. Our set up for the game started to unravel and our reluctance to adjust was either born of naivety or stubborness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Zero said: 1 point from Luton for the whole season is unacceptable imo. Meaning, what? Dock his wages? Sack him? Public humiliation? What must we do given we cannot accept this? What are the repercussions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 We remind me a lot of Liveprool for most of last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, Zero said: 1 point from Luton for the whole season is unacceptable imo. Villa took 0 points from us this season. Is that unacceptable? Luton aren’t nearly as bad as their position suggests. They’re starting to get results - I mentioned in the preview thread that they don’t get battered, and usually lose even to the very top sides by the odd goal (the 3-4 vs Arsenal being a case in point). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: Nearly up there with Derby in their worst ever season ! I wouldn’t say so. This Luton team is decent enough and Liverpool, City and Arsenal struggled to get past them this season, they also slapped Brighton 4-0 last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Luton are a nightmare to play of late for everyone. Really respect how they are coming along. Their power, pace and running matches up well against us, especially with Joelinton missing in midfield along with Tonali. Brutal for Longstaff, Miley and Bruno as they just don't quite have the legs. Our back line isn't the quickest either. Mr. Howe please get us a starting left back next season, and don't use Burn there anymore. I am really growing to hate that selection. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, Decky said: I wouldn’t say so. This Luton team is decent enough and Liverpool, City and Arsenal struggled to get past them this season, they also slapped Brighton 4-0 last week. Yep. I’ve seen a few ‘Derby’ comparisons. Completely disrespectful to this Luton side - they’re not even close to being that shite. They’re on course for a 30+ point season - Derby took 11 points that year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybiotics Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Howe's inability to react or sack off his mates when they're a liability will ultimately cost him his job. Credit where its due, he's done a great job, but in the summer he needs to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 9 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Meaning, what? Dock his wages? Sack him? Public humiliation? What must we do given we cannot accept this? What are the repercussions? How about at the very least pointing out this is not the standard we should be expecting? This Howe love is getting ridiculous. If you don’t expect a win at home against a relegation fighters, then tell me what’s your expectation for our league position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, Zero said: How about at the very least pointing out this is not the standard we should be expecting? This Howe love is getting ridiculous. If you don’t expect a win at home against a relegation fighters, then tell me what’s your expectation for our league position? You think Howe is expecting and accepting 1pt from 6 vs. Luton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yep. I’ve seen a few ‘Derby’ comparisons. Completely disrespectful to this Luton side - they’re not even close to being that shite. They’re on course for a 30+ point season - Derby took 11 points that year so should we feel pleased to get 1 point today? If that’s the case then I apologise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, Andybiotics said: Howe's inability to react or sack off his mates when they're a liability will ultimately cost him his job. Credit where its due, he's done a great job, but in the summer he needs to go. I mean, it could well do, but the summer would be far too soon for me. Everything the man has achieved so far makes me think that I’d only be comfortable thinking that way if we’re in the same place this time next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, Andybiotics said: Howe's inability to react or sack off his mates when they're a liability will ultimately cost him his job. Credit where its due, he's done a great job, but in the summer he needs to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 No hindsight involved today. People in the ground calling for Tino before half time in place of BDB. I love Eddie but this one is on him today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, Andybiotics said: Howe's inability to react or sack off his mates when they're a liability will ultimately cost him his job. Credit where its due, he's done a great job, but in the summer he needs to go. Wow. If the end of the season is a mess he probably will go, but we can still get European football and a good run in the FA Cup. Let’s not give up on the man just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, Zero said: so should we feel pleased to get 1 point today? If that’s the case then I apologise No, I’m not suggesting one point is ever ideal at home. But teams do drop points at home, sometimes unexpectedly. And it isn’t usually after a bonkers 4-4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 32 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: We didn’t learn anything new today. Howe tends to pick players that he likes and trusts, and usually makes tactical substitutions reactively - and this season, this has often been after chucking away an unnecessary goal or two. If every game where it happens is as fun as this one was, I’d be ok. Doubt his employers share this view, mind. Agreed. He’s been here 2 years now and it feels like I know 99% of his moves. You can name his lineup 11/11 for any game. Doesn’t matter the opponent too much. If we are winning you can name the subs and the minutes. And you can bet your bottom dollar he won’t make a proactive sub if we are winning. There’s been many 45 minutes Burn hasn’t deserved to come out and played again but it’s happened so often under Howe that you actually expect him to be a little better after half time. But if he’s not better - he’s going to stay on until we’ve paid for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 14 minutes ago, Decky said: I wouldn’t say so. This Luton team is decent enough and Liverpool, City and Arsenal struggled to get past them this season, they also slapped Brighton 4-0 last week. No sorry I meant we have the habit of throwing away wins against newly promoted teams.. Blackpool, Derby, Luton etc. I'm sure we give Derby 4 of their 9 points that year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, RobsonsWonderland said: No sorry I meant we have the habit of throwing away wins against newly promoted teams.. Blackpool, Derby, Luton etc. I'm sure we give Derby 4 of their 9 points that year *11 points. We did, including their only win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 The summer transfer window is so important. Our lack of pace needs to be addressed. A proper left back and a centre back need to be purchased that both have pace. Preferably a central midfielder as well that can be defence minded but also fit into Howe’s style. Howe can’t continue to play a high pressing game with a high line with the lack of pace we have got, teams are figuring it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 8 minutes ago, Andybiotics said: Howe's inability to react or sack off his mates when they're a liability will ultimately cost him his job. Credit where its due, he's done a great job, but in the summer he needs to go. I think we should judge him on a season which hasn't been decimated by injuries like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I think Joelinton and Tonali for Longstaff and Miley would solve almost as much as replacing Burn. I’ve never rated Burn at LB but there are also lots of problems that Howe can’t fix because his tools have been taken away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Vaj said: The summer transfer window is so important. Our lack of pace needs to be addressed. A proper left back and a centre back need to be purchased that both have pace. Preferably a central midfielder as well that can be defence minded but also fit into Howe’s style. Howe can’t continue to play a high pressing game with a high line with the lack of pace we have got, teams are figuring it out Throw in Joelinton, Willock and Tonali and we are a much stronger, faster, powerful and athletic team. A fit Joelinton and we win that game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Burn has probably directly contributed to as many wins as he has what feels like a loss today. He's hardly been a big disaster every game. But we cannot go into next season with him starting at left back that's for sure. Regarding Eddie Howe, even on a day as potentially disastrous as today was, still the team came back and looked great doing so. Still his Barnes signing shone as did Gordon, still his setup manages to get two goals out of Longstaff, still he continues to get significant contributions out of 17 year old Miley. Getting rid of Howe would be a disaster. He would shortly end up somewhere else and only continue to get better and better, and we would never live it down. Edited February 3 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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