Shadow Puppets Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, gdm said: Again, you wrongly read in to what I wrote. That’s not my fault what I meant was he’s concerned boundaries potentially may get overstepped and that’s why he wants those boundaries established. At no point did I say bounderies had already been over stepped. Mitchell has only been in the job a week ffs the key word in my original post is potentially. Thought it was pretty clear myself You said "the other issue is lines seem to be blurred within the club". Again, no mention of that from Howe at all. I dunno man, it just frustrates the hell out of me when people (not you specifically) take the most negative spin out of a perfectly fine (and tbh pretty reassuring) interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: You said "the other issue is lines seem to be blurred within the club". Again, no mention of that from Howe at all. I dunno man, it just frustrates the hell out of me when people (not you specifically) take the most negative spin out of a perfectly fine (and tbh pretty reassuring) interview. I’m not negative. I think it’s pretty clear he just wants things nailed down so there won’t be future stepping on toes which is what’s appeared to happen with Ashworth. Once bitten twice shy and all that. Really think that’s all it is. you are correct however people like to see the negative side. The comparison with Rafa is ridiculous Edited July 19 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, Pilko said: Tory Scabbers is the reason you should have to apply for a licence to make a podcast. Miserable boring wanker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 minutes ago, gdm said: He says he wants to establish boundaries that’s just another way of saying wants power lines defined. Absolutely nowt in the quotes to say "lines are blurred". He has a new management team around him. They've barely worked together a few days, boundaries will naturally develop in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 11 minutes ago, Pilko said: Tory Scabbers is the reason you should have to apply for a licence to make a podcast. Miserable boring wanker You can tell when he’s lying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 He clearly wants things to be done in a particular way. We know this already - there were multiple reports that he wasn't going to commit to joining us in the first place unless he was allowed to bring key backroom staff with him. He knows ultimately it'll be his head on the chopping block if things go badly and he won't want to have transfers pushed on him or a "Performance Director" telling him who can play and when. However there's nothing in any of the interviews I've seen that suggests that is what is being proposed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 no major firesale this summer no leaks about transfers or other incomings/outgoings no signs of any unrest within the squad the way this story about Howe's comments is being portrayed just reeks of some media and fans being pretty desperate to have something to talk about and stir the pot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: Absolutely nowt in the quotes to say "lines are blurred". He has a new management team around him. They've barely worked together a few days, boundaries will naturally develop in time. Exactly. From 4.30 here he even says the early signs are promising and Mitchell is a great appointment. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0jcgjjr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I watched Howe’s interview with Kieth Downie, thought it was very positive and that it should bring an end to the England talk, looked on twitter and clearly not! A lot of what’s been said has been twisted somewhat I feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Absolutely nowt in the quotes to say "lines are blurred". He has a new management team around him. They've barely worked together a few days, boundaries will naturally develop in time. Did I say it was with Mitchell? Think it’s well accepted that Ashworth and him had friction and as I’ve said he’s not wanting it to happen again so he’s getting ahead of it. We essentially agree dunno why you are arguing tbh it’s a pre-emptive warning rather than something that’s happened think Ashworth clearly pissed him off Edited July 19 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I've decided the comments about needing to feel comfortable and happy are basically his way of saying 'You will never make me do an interview for NUFC TV again!' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 10 minutes ago, gdm said: He says he wants to establish boundaries that’s just another way of saying wants power lines defined. That wasn't in the 10min total sport interview then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 People seem to have confused Howe saying "I'm committed here as long as I have certain things I feel I need" as meaning that he suddenly doesn't have those things anymore with Staveley leaving / Mitchell joining. I thought he sounded incredibly positive, focused and committed to the job at hand and pretty shocked at the way it's been interpreted by some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, madras said: That wasn't in the 10min total sport interview then. Sky with downie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 5 minutes ago, Fak said: You can tell when he’s lying. His lips move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, gdm said: Sky with downie Link please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 2 minutes ago, madras said: Link please. I do enjoy him saying England is not important at all Edited July 19 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Without reading comments in here: It was a clear power play from Eddie. Just like when a player has another club interested, they get a new contract. Eddie is using this moment to stamp his authority. I suspect in the next interview, we will get a much more clear message from him, love the club, happy etc. Today was deliberate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Negative story’s get more attention and clicks shocker. Nothing in any of that should be spun the way that media types are spinning it, but rinse and repeat the above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Having watched three interviews now, this is my opinion. He’s fully committed to the club. He’s not said he’s unhappy, he’s not said he’s leaving. He’s said the opposite. He literally said “England is not important”. For me that means, get things right here and England is irrelevant. He’s a little unsure of how the new structures are going to work and wants to see where power dynamics are going to settle. There are a lot of moving parts atm and he needs to be sure of roles and boundaries in this new setup. Basically he doesn’t know how things are gonna’ play out because he hasn’t had the chance to get to know PM and JB yet. For me it’s up to the club, Mitchell, Bunce etc to give him these assurances. Mitchell and Eales have both talked about giving Eddie the best possible platform to succeed on the pitch and they want him to concentrate on what he does best, which is coaching. I don’t know if this means that he’ll have less say in transfers. I wouldn’t think so. It’ll be totally collaborative. Howe should always have the last say imo. I don’t think Eddie is so obsessive that he’ll allow no interference whatsoever. He said, and always says he wants what’s best for the club. He’s not going to spit his dummy out. He’s a solution focused individual who will work with what he’s given, he’s shown that. It’d have to go very sour and his role to be completely diminished for him to leave. I am positive but I can’t deny my feelings that the interviews have left me a bit unsure of the future. We’re going to have to be patient. Wait to see how the window plays out, the first month of the season. I think he’ll stay. If he gets offered the job I think the club will push the boat out for him and show him the love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I think this is the beginning of the end for him, sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, UncleBingo said: I think this is the beginning of the end for him, sadly. Worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 7 minutes ago, gdm said: I do enjoy him saying England is not important at all Not sure how anyone can put a negative spin on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Optimistic Nut Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 minutes ago, Scoot said: Not sure how anyone can put a negative spin on that. Aye, after actually listening to him I can't see anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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