Eddie Howe

[wyn davies]

6 minutes ago, Elliottman said:

He was literally laughing and joking in the interviews after game man 

We all put a front on even Eddie, maybe he was using it as a method of hiding his true feelings, people ask how are you usual reply is fine all OK, what if they say  actually not good many people then don't want to know.

[Gawalls]

7 minutes ago, Cf said:

 

Wrong thread but I'll reply anyway. I can see this sort of approach biting tech companies hard. The amount of tech debt that's going to be introduced into code bases by it and the smaller pool of devs who actually knows what the code is supposed to be doing will hit breaking point. 

You’re right with it being the wrong thread so this will be my last (just so good getting months of frustration out lol), the tech debt is spot on - we now have full sprints dedicated to tech debt now and we never had to before, we also now can’t do a pull request without 80% code coverage where even AI has told me I have around 40% coverage but everything is covered - it’s just such a bad form of measurement.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

23 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

Yeah but it’s biting them on the arse, brought it in several months ago and no less than six senior level devs with decades experience have quit so are they any better off? In my experience using it - it’s currently no better than a junior dev level, impressive but you have to push back, know your design patters and tell it what you want doing in great detail.

 

 

 

It’s business to business selling isn’t it? Someone pushing software onto an executive who buys into how great it’ll be. Now they’ve bought it they have to force people to use it. Idiotic management is more of a threat than the actual AI. 

[Gawalls]

4 minutes ago, wyn davies said:

We all put a front on even Eddie, maybe he was using it as a method of hiding his true feelings, people ask how are you usual reply is fine all OK, what if they say  actually not good many people then don't want to know.

He was replying to someone saying he looked so downbeat- even if he was putting a front on his point is valid.

[Elliottman]

11 minutes ago, wyn davies said:

We all put a front on even Eddie, maybe he was using it as a method of hiding his true feelings, people ask how are you usual reply is fine all OK, what if they say  actually not good many people then don't want to know.

But the statement from Ben was that ‘he looked really down’ , he absolutely didn’t. 

[Sibierski]

1 hour ago, Ben said:

He looked really down yesterday, his soundbites are becoming repetitive, he needs help, Jamie Reuben and the Saudis are at fault here and it could have massive repercussions 

Guy just wants to do the coaching and crack on. As much as it’s said he wants a say in things, it’s likely not to this level. Probably being drawn into all sorts of shit these past few weeks which he shouldn’t need to be, and the Isak one will be a final kicker. 
 

Get some guys in upstairs to help Howe ffs. Think twice over now, he values having a Mitchell / Ashworth above him to sort out all the transfer malarkey.

[Lush Vlad]

Weren’t the rumours last year around Howe being very rigid with who he wanted and only having a select shortlist of players? ‘Guehi or nobody’ or whatever the narrative was from journos. 
 

So are the players we are missing out on or supposedly wasting our time pursuing. Because he still has a small shopping list of players and no plan B or C? 
 

I can’t keep up with whose ‘fault’ it is that we keep missing out on players to cartel clubs. Who are a more attractive proposition and pay more money. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

That Guehi or nobody narrative was bollocks though. We went after him for so long because we thought it was nearly done, in the end we failed. Could’ve gone the other way but didn’t. It doesn’t mean we never looked at another CB. 
 

Obviously in hindsight you can say we should’ve pulled out earlier, but who knows what the deal felt like on the inside. 
 

By all accounts we also had Khusanov on our list before he went to Man City. 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2025 by AyeDubbleYoo

[1881]

I wonder whether the players we have been targeting this summer are the same ones that Mitchell had planned to target…

 

 

Edited July 20, 2025 by 1881

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, 1881 said:

I wonder whether the players we have been targeting this summer are the same ones that Mitchell had planned to target…

You’d have to hope that a strategy was agreed and some target list in place. If there were two completely different ideas about signings then we really were being stupid. 

[Cf]

3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

That Guehi or nobody narrative was bollocks though. We went after him for so long because we thought it was nearly done, in the end we failed. Could’ve gone the other way but didn’t. It doesn’t mean we never looked at another CB. 
 

Obviously in hindsight you can say we should’ve pulled out earlier, but who knows what the deal felt like on the inside. 
 

By all accounts we also had Khusanov on our list before he went to Man City. 

 

 

 

 

There was definitely more media and forum oxygen spent on the deal than there will have been at club level.

[SUPERTOON]

2 minutes ago, 1881 said:

I wonder whether the players we have been targeting this summer are the same ones that Mitchell had planned to target…

 

 

 

I would be surprised tbh, Mitchell was bought in to do the opposite of paying a premium for targets surely. 

[Lush Vlad]

4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

That Guehi or nobody narrative was bollocks though. We went after him for so long because we thought it was nearly done, in the end we failed. Could’ve gone the other way but didn’t. It doesn’t mean we never looked at another CB. 
 

Obviously in hindsight you can say we should’ve pulled out earlier, but who knows what the deal felt like on the inside. 
 

By all accounts we also had Khusanov on our list before he went to Man City. 

 

 

 

But how do we know its bollocks? I’m sure there were articles saying Howe was offered other CB’s and he declined them. Which is fair enough if he didn’t think they were any good. 
 

But like the Trafford thread. People seem to be talking like they know the inner workings of the club and how the negotiations are going.
 

The one thing I will agree on is that the club seem very sloooowwww to do anything. Transfers or otherwise. But then again, if Chelsea and City didn’t get involved with 2 of the last 3 sagas. We could have quite possibly had two shiny new signings in the squad at Celtic Park yesterday. 

[Gawalls]

7 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Weren’t the rumours last year around Howe being very rigid with who he wanted and only having a select shortlist of players? ‘Guehi or nobody’ or whatever the narrative was from journos. 
 

So are the players we are missing out on or supposedly wasting our time pursuing. Because he still has a small shopping list of players and no plan B or C? 
 

I can’t keep up with whose ‘fault’ it is that we keep missing out on players to cartel clubs. Who are a more attractive proposition and pay more money. 

This is exactly where I’m at.. who knows if he is fed up now after walking a mile in their shoes then things may go better if we bring someone in to work with him now.

[1881]

That was my thought, I think he would have gone for cheaper, less proven players which may have been more realistic.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, 1881 said:

That was my thought, I think he would have gone for cheaper, less proven players which may have been more realistic.

The problem is we’re not looking to do a Brighton and break into the European places. We’re looking to be a consistent CL and title challenging club. 
 

I would love loads of cheap unknown players that become world class, but it’s not an easy one to do. 

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

The problem is we’re not looking to do a Brighton and break into the European places. We’re looking to be a consistent CL and title challenging club. 
 

I would love loads of cheap unknown players that become world class, but it’s not an easy one to do. 

Which made the MItchell appointment pointless then, pretty sure that was his exact remit when he came in. It certainly wasn't try and spend big on proven players, not based of his interview last year. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Which made the MItchell appointment pointless then, pretty sure that was his exact remit when he came in. It certainly wasn't try and spend big on proven players, not based of his interview last year. 

Nah of course, but you need a mix. We need more young players and a deeper squad, but we also need top quality. 

[1881]

4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

The problem is we’re not looking to do a Brighton and break into the European places. We’re looking to be a consistent CL and title challenging club. 
 

I would love loads of cheap unknown players that become world class, but it’s not an easy one to do. 

Exactly and that is how The Sky 6 can screw us with PSR and squad cost ratios.

[Cf]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Nah of course, but you need a mix. We need more young players and a deeper squad, but we also need top quality. 

 

And maybe this was the plan. Of our "top quality" targets see which we can get in. And based on how that went (we did get Elanga) we can move onto other targets. 

[Miggys First Goal]

But our issue seems to be we are solely aiming for the world class market. Can’t tell me there isn’t affordable quality talent still available that we don’t even seem to be interested in. 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2025 by Miggys First Goal

[Gawalls]

3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

The problem is we’re not looking to do a Brighton and break into the European places. We’re looking to be a consistent CL and title challenging club. 
 

I would love loads of cheap unknown players that become world class, but it’s not an easy one to do. 

And don’t have the budget to do that at this current time, if so then we need to do what we can do not what we’re trying to do on the transfer market. Minimum we should be saying someone better than Wilson and Longstaff needs to be brought in so the teams better. There’s time left yet but that should be a minimum for me, improve on who leaves 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, Miggys First Goal said:

But our issue seems to be we are solely aiming for the world class market. Can’t tell me there isn’t quality talent still available that we don’t even seem to be interested in. 

I mean, nobody can disagree with this, there are a lot of footballers in the world. But we do have to choose a few to go for. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

And don’t have the budget to do that at this current time, if so then we need to do what we can do not what we’re trying to do on the transfer market. Minimum we should be saying someone better than Wilson and Longstaff needs to be brought in so the teams better. There’s time left yet but that should be a minimum for me, improve on who leaves 

Yeah of course, if the window closes and we haven’t improved then obviously it’s a massive failure. I play football with some people better than Longstaff and a better fitness record than Wilson. 
 

But it’s not a failure yet and I’m not against trying for better quality than just a slight improvement. 
 

FWIW I think we’ve already significantly improved but obvs Elanga won’t be enough at the end of the window. 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2025 by AyeDubbleYoo

[r0cafella]

5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Which made the MItchell appointment pointless then, pretty sure that was his exact remit when he came in. It certainly wasn't try and spend big on proven players, not based of his interview last year. 

Reading between the lines Mitchell ended up with very little influence and that's actually why he ended up leaving.

 

Makes zero sense everything was fantastic but he left because Eales was leaving.