et tu brute Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 1 minute ago, madras said: Our biggest issue is that we are so disjointed. A CF who's needs CMs to play off him and no CMs who get close to that. I agree with this also. Germany had the exact same problem, but the manager changed it and within their last two games, Woltemade had support, getting the ball played to him consistently (not being totally isolated) and getting onto decent service being played into him. If one manager in less games can see the issue and correct it, then why not Howe (it's getting worse not better)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 6 minutes ago, madras said: Our biggest issue is that we are so disjointed. A CF who's needs CMs to play off him and no CMs who get close to that. This is true buts also a large tactical issue of this silly low block we do. We invite pressure and have no outball so it just comes back at us. We need to get back on the front foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 45 minutes ago, Heron said: Sorry...several...disastrous summers? No - but he’s had several summers (definitely not disastrous ones) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 I’m torn between Eddie’s tactics being long in the tooth or they should be more effective but the players he puts out there aren’t able to execute. Outside of Bruno, who carries this team on his back, we’ve lost our intensity, guile and haven’t imposed ourselves against opposition away from home in a season and a half in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 22 minutes ago, r0cafella said: This is true buts also a large tactical issue of this silly low block we do. We invite pressure and have no outball so it just comes back at us. We need to get back on the front foot. With an immobile CF leading a press ? Wolt on his own up front leaves anything disjointed. We have no out ball because he can't hold it up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 If the players are too tired to execute those pressing and intensity, then play those who are fresh enough to do it. And Ramsay not getting any game time. I don’t know. Something is really wrong. I don’t get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 2 minutes ago, The Bonk said: I’m torn between Eddie’s tactics being long in the tooth or they should be more effective but the players he puts out there aren’t able to execute. Outside of Bruno, who carries this team on his back, we’ve lost our intensity, guile and haven’t imposed ourselves against opposition away from home in a season and a half in the league. Im hoping there's a plan for when Wissa and Wolt are both fit and have training time. Hell, I even think Wolt and Osula could threaten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 1 minute ago, madras said: With an immobile CF leading a press ? Wolt on his own up front leaves anything disjointed. We have no out ball because he can't hold it up Wolte just forced a penalty by pressing last match. Sorry I don’t buy that. It’s a tactical decision from Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 3 minutes ago, madras said: With an immobile CF leading a press ? Wolt on his own up front leaves anything disjointed. We have no out ball because he can't hold it up Isak didn't press half the time either. Our lack of press isn't because of Nick. It's clearly a tactical instruction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 5 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Isak didn't press half the time either. Our lack of press isn't because of Nick. It's clearly a tactical instruction. Did he ever press? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 3 minutes ago, McDog said: Did he ever press? He did aye, I mean he obviously didn't do much of anything second half or last season but he did press some when we were in our pomp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 Today wasn’t the worst performance of the season. I’d say it was on a par with Brighton, Leeds and Villa. West Ham and Brentford were far far worse. City was probably our best. That in itself raises more questions.. perhaps it’s that they came to win and didn’t sit back. If that is the case then we’re a team that can only win in certain circumstances, one dimensional essentially. Could say poorly coached but we’re not allowed say that are we. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 (edited) 18 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Isak didn't press half the time either. Our lack of press isn't because of Nick. It's clearly a tactical instruction. He did like, not like a fit Wilson but more than Wolt and sharper. Wolt has time to build up to it, he's came in to a situation with little prep for what he needs etc. End of this season and start of next seaso we really see Wolt. Edited December 15, 2025 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 4 minutes ago, Lucky said: Today wasn’t the worst performance of the season. I’d say it was on a par with Brighton, Leeds and Villa. West Ham and Brentford were far far worse. City was probably our best. That in itself raises more questions.. perhaps it’s that they came to win and didn’t sit back. If that is the case then we’re a team that can only win in certain circumstances, one dimensional essentially. Could say poorly coached but we’re not allowed say that are we. If guantee you aren’t from the north east Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 1 minute ago, TRC said: If guantee you aren’t from the north east I’m Irish and I’ve supported the club for 33 years. I’ve been to home and away games on many occasions. Whats your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 I genuinely think this is the worst. Put it this way - would you ever imagine we even didn’t put up a fight, in a derby, against a team that is just recently promoted from Championship? I ain’t calling for Howe out, but this is the worst. Everyone knows the importance of this match. No way you approached this game by begging for one point right from the first minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 4 minutes ago, Lucky said: I’m Irish and I’ve supported the club for 33 years. I’ve been to home and away games on many occasions. Whats your point? I think the fact I called this correctly is my point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 2 minutes ago, Zero said: I genuinely think this is the worst. Put it this way - would you ever imagine we even didn’t put up a fight, in a derby, against a team that is just recently promoted from Championship? I ain’t calling for Howe out, but this is the worst. Everyone knows the importance of this match. No way you approached this game by begging for one point right from the first minute. A neutral would say two sides that negated each other in an ugly game. A fluke goal won it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 2 minutes ago, TRC said: I think the fact I called this correctly is my point “If guantee” would call you illiterate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 1 minute ago, Lucky said: “If guantee” would call you illiterate. Decent counterpunch, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 4 minutes ago, madras said: A neutral would say two sides that negated each other in an ugly game. A fluke goal won it Fuck that, we it wasn’t a fair game we had 10 of the best 11 and didn’t show up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 26 minutes ago, Lucky said: Today wasn’t the worst performance of the season. I’d say it was on a par with Brighton, Leeds and Villa. West Ham and Brentford were far far worse. City was probably our best. That in itself raises more questions.. perhaps it’s that they came to win and didn’t sit back. If that is the case then we’re a team that can only win in certain circumstances, one dimensional essentially. Could say poorly coached but we’re not allowed say that are we. The “poorly coached” might be something Eddie admitted himself. I remember a recent interview when he talks about hoping he had more prep time to coach aspects of Wolte’s game and all that. He needs time to drill things into players. While it’s helped get the best out of the likes of Joelinton and Murphy, it’s ultimately also Eddie’s achilles heel. I don’t recall him ever doing well in a period of twice-weekly games, unless it’s in the middle of a purple patch. I am hopeful of a rebound once we get a one/two week break - see the Man City and Everton (A) sequence after the international break. Still hoping he could find solutions before then, cause we need it fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 When Adam clearly done that video not long ago he said we revert to a 4-5-1 whilst out of possession which then means woltemade has to do lots of running to close them down. but he then said other teams usually revert to a 4-4-2 out of possession and that helps the press. Why don't we do that then? Pushing a winger in field to give us some legs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 3 minutes ago, andycap said: When Adam clearly done that video not long ago he said we revert to a 4-5-1 whilst out of possession which then means woltemade has to do lots of running to close them down. but he then said other teams usually revert to a 4-4-2 out of possession and that helps the press. Why don't we do that then? Pushing a winger in field to give us some legs. Because we don't want to press. We are clearly managing our energy levels which begs the questions why did we spend so much building a squad. Is it Eddie needs his 6 months to bed them in before he trust them? Is it they were bad signings ? I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted December 15, 2025 Share Posted December 15, 2025 7 hours ago, Holmesy said: To be honest, if they had the calibre of players we have, they’d have battered us. They were tactically better than us with inferior players, which is essentially what made it a level playing field. That’s not how football works. We’ve beaten much better sides in years gone by with shitter players and shitter managers. Doesn’t therefore mean if X happened we’d be Y. It was a turgid performance and a shit result against fan base that’ll live off it forever but the sweeping judgements passed off we fact in the aftermath need to chill out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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