Eddie Howe

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, andycap said:

Sometimes you have to play a weaker option to save the legs and fitness of your main players. 

Krafth was massively underused earlier in the season  lascelles and Alex Murphy aswell could've helped with the load.

even if it meant twenty minutes here and there at the end of games. 

He is simply not good enough.

 

None of the other CL teams would give minutes to a Krafth level player outside of an injury crisis. I love Krafth but he might not even be a PL level player.

 

i won't blame Howe for not giving Championship level players minutes.

[Kid Icarus]

40 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

The last 2 seasons say otherwise. 

The last 2 seasons only say we finished higher than them. What you attribute that to is another matter.

[andycap]

Then why give him a new contract? Same with lascelles ruddy Gillespie. 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

The last 2 seasons only say we finished higher than them. What you attribute that to is another matter.

I attribute it to our players being better than what they have over that period of time. Better manager obviously help. 

 

As I mentioned in my post, clubs like Manchester united tend to have people over rating the players they have because of the profile. 

[andycap]

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

He is simply not good enough.

 

None of the other CL teams would give minutes to a Krafth level player outside of an injury crisis. I love Krafth but he might not even be a PL level player.

 

i won't blame Howe for not giving Championship level players minutes.

He's good enough for twenty minutes here and there. 

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, andycap said:

We will never know if we have serviceable young players as they don't get a chance to show it. 

History has shown that we don't have a track record of serviceable young players compared to Man U.

 

If Howe thinks Murphy isn't of the level i'll believe him until proven otherwise.

 

I'm not blaming Howe if he doesn't turn water into wine. Maresca complains about his squad every week. It's so much stronger than ours it's crazy.

[andycap]

It's crackers using miley and Jacob Murphy in the position rather than a natural fullback. Atleast the natural fullback knows the positioning side of the game. 

[Andy]

Just now, andycap said:

It's crackers using miley and Jacob Murphy in the position rather than a natural fullback. Atleast the natural fullback knows the positioning side of the game. 

 

Howe clearly wants his right back to push up into midfield, Miley is far more suited to doing that than Krafth IMO. 

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, andycap said:

It's crackers using miley and Jacob Murphy in the position rather than a natural fullback. Atleast the natural fullback knows the positioning side of the game. 

Krafth is injured atm too.

 

A PL-level CM is better at FB than a League 1-level fullback more often than not. The levels of footballing ability or too stark.

[r0cafella]

Krafth is a player who we should have been moving on Awhile ago if we are being honest. Hes never let us down (when fit) granted but he's not of a level we need  

[andycap]

So we have depth but there not good enough to here a lot in here. But to then use burn at leftback and miley or Jacob at right back when they will be exposed and targetted by every team is a better way to go. 

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, andycap said:

So we have depth but there not good enough to here a lot in here. But to then use burn at leftback and miley or Jacob at right back when they will be exposed and targetted by every team is a better way to go. 

Players like Krafth and Lascalles are barely squad members if we are being honest. 

[Heron]

I mean I think folk are forgetting we have 3 competent CB pairings...

 

Thiaw and Botman

Schar and Burn,

Lascelles one Krafth

 

RB we have Trippier Tino and Krafth

LB Hall Burn and Murphy.

 

We're hardly sleeping the barrell for defenders. Just unlucky...

 

 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Heron said:

I mean I think folk are forgetting we have 3 competent CB pairings...

 

Thiaw and Botman

Schar and Burn,

Lascelles one Krafth

 

RB we have Trippier Tino and Krafth

LB Hall Burn and Murphy.

 

We're hardly sleeping the barrell for defenders. Just unlucky...

 

 

We lack depth at full back. The first choice right back shouldn't be the back up left back. Also Burn shouldn't be considered a leftback at all. 

 

In my books we have 3 fullbacks and one is ready for the retirement home. 

[Kid Icarus]

25 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I attribute it to our players being better than what they have over that period of time. Better manager obviously help. 

 

As I mentioned in my post, clubs like Manchester united tend to have people over rating the players they have because of the profile. 

Just a bit aye.

[The Butcher]

36 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

He is simply not good enough.

 

None of the other CL teams would give minutes to a Krafth level player outside of an injury crisis. I love Krafth but he might not even be a PL level player.

 

i won't blame Howe for not giving Championship level players minutes.

He's rarely let us down in the PL. He's very much a PL player imo.

[Andy]

Krafth is one of those players that will do a solid enough job as a defensive fullback, but your team as a whole looks worse for having him in it. Fullbacks are so important to building attacks these days. 

[The College Dropout]

15 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

He's rarely let us down in the PL. He's very much a PL player imo.

As an emergency stopgap.

 

If Krafth was expected to start 38 games for a PL team, you would assume that PL team would be fighting relegation/relegated. I personally think he's a Championship player. A great pro, gives it his all and is reliable which is why he's still here.

He's a bringing-on when winning 3-0 player. Or injury crisis to play 3 or 4 games and not be a disgrace. Or replacing the winger with 5 to go haging onto a lead. That's fine and what he did last season. But he doesn't get regular minutes for a team going to the last 16 in the CL and finishing 5th/6th.

 

 

Edited December 19, 2025 by The College Dropout

[andycap]

13 minutes ago, Andy said:

Krafth is one of those players that will do a solid enough job as a defensive fullback, but your team as a whole looks worse for having him in it. Fullbacks are so important to building attacks these days. 

So why does burn get the nod at fullback? 

[TRon]

52 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I attribute it to our players being better than what they have over that period of time. Better manager obviously help. 

 

As I mentioned in my post, clubs like Manchester united tend to have people over rating the players they have because of the profile. 

 

 

Their players still fetch much higher fees than ours though, especially their back up players. That tells you something. 

[Andy]

Just now, andycap said:

So why does burn get the nod at fullback? 

 

You won't get any argument from me that he shouldn't be there, but clearly the answer for the most part (this season at least) has been it was a last resort. 

[andycap]

If that's the case get rid of Krafth lascelles ruddy Gillespie as they're basically just cheerleaders stop giving them extensions if we have no intent of using them. 

[andycap]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

 

You won't get any argument from me that he shouldn't be there, but clearly the answer for the most part (this season at least) has been it was a last resort. 

When we had young Murphy on the bench I'd rather try him than burn. 

[andycap]

Woltemade kept playing barely getting a rest aswell now he's looking knackered fitness wise. Osula at the time was lucky to get ten minutes in them games. Now he's injured woltemade has no option but to play couldve been managed better. In my opinion. 

[TRon]

4 minutes ago, andycap said:

When we had young Murphy on the bench I'd rather try him than burn. 

 

 

Murphy did really well when he came on, I was expecting him to be relatively shite tbh. But I suppose he hasn't really been tested.