Whitley mag Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 1 minute ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Translation: He's had little to no support from above. Give over man, Staveley gave him everything he wanted, hence why they got bombed out and we had 3 windows of no activity. Edited April 21 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 minute ago, samptime29 said: You've been whiny recently tbh. Probably coincided with how shite we've been recently. Tbh it depends on the thread. On this one I have. Been on the Non League one a fair bit and wouldn't say I've been whiny on there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 People are allowed different opinions. If you think Howe Out, that's your call. It's a forum. The disrespect to Howe pisses me off though. The language used and how dismissive certain posters are about his achievements is an embarrassment imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Translation: He's had little to no support from above. Imagine trying to make anyone outside of our fanbase believe that. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 12 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: I've never fallen out with anyone. That lad appears to have anger issues with people who share a different opinion to him. You inboxed me asking if I knew where he drank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Just now, Whitley mag said: Give over man, Staveley give him everything he wanted, hence why they got bombed out and we had 3 windows of no activity. He's an idiot mate. We spent over £250m on new players to bolster the squad last summer and apparently he's had no support. Rafa had no support. Having to balance the books and asked sign bargain basement players and hope to get a tune out of them. Not the case with Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Just now, Whitley mag said: Give over man, Staveley give him everything he wanted, hence why they got bombed out and we had 3 windows of no activity. Staveley gave him support, yes. But she's not here now. PIF have been poor and they've made many a mistake and we've spent our own money when we've been able, trying to catch up as best we can after not being able to spend. You go on like we've had only misses in the transfer market in that 750m. It couldn't be further from the truth. I really dont get the short termism in this kind of thinking, it's like a pre-set to attack the side which as a fan of nearly 40 years absolutely baffles me. I couldn't be that unsupportive of my club, personally. Each to their own I suppose., Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, samptime29 said: People are allowed different opinions. If you think Howe Out, that's your call. It's a forum. The disrespect to Howe pisses me off though. The language used and how dismissive certain posters are about his achievements is an embarrassment imo. Nobody is dismissing his previous achievements. He'll always have them. He currently stands as my 2nd favourite NUFC manager of all time in between KK and Sir Bobby. I just think there's a strong chance that he's come to the end of the road here, and the evidence supporting that is growing by the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 The amount of people disrespecting o downplaying his achievements is only a few (from what I’ve seen). Even the most staunch in favour of change seem to be hugely appreciative of what he’s done - how could you not be? We owe him so much, blokes a legend here and you’ll never be able to tell our story without his name. Doesn’t mean there’s not very reasonable concerns and I think across the forum both sides of the argument have been articulated pretty well. Some people may seem blind in their backing, some people may be too harsh with criticism. It’s only their opinion, I wouldn’t get too fussed about it. It’s a forum, much like life it would be pretty boring if we all agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 5 minutes ago, Fak said: You inboxed me asking if I knew where he drank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 This thread is boring as sin even with disagreement. Most interesting arguments don’t involve handfuls of people regurgitating the same points ad nauseum. It’s ok not to post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) Not many teams in the league had the luxury of having someone like Isak upfront for 2-3 years.. Our signings were incredible for the first 2 years. We spent maximum of what we could, with the headroom that we had from the Ashley years, and nearly every signing turned out to be great value for the money aswell. Player for player we've had a very good team thanks to signings that were done early on with the money from the new owners, and the leadership that they had put in place. Obviously this has really changed for the worse since Ashworth left. Edited April 21 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 22 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: I've never fallen out with anyone. That lad appears to have anger issues with people who share a different opinion to him. You only mentioned the mighty Luton Town! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Just now, TK-421 said: You only mentioned the mighty Luton Town! Well they did put 4 past us at SJP and beat us down at their place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 minute ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Staveley gave him support, yes. But she's not here now. PIF have been poor and they've made many a mistake and we've spent our own money when we've been able, trying to catch up as best we can after not being able to spend. You go on like we've had only misses in the transfer market in that 750m. It couldn't be further from the truth. I really dont get the short termism in this kind of thinking, it's like a pre-set to attack the side which as a fan of nearly 40 years absolutely baffles me. I couldn't be that unsupportive of my club, personally. Each to their own I suppose., I really like the bloke and appreciate everything he’s done for the club. Some think he’s got enough credit in the bank to put things right which is fair enough. I want the best for the club which in my opinion is a new manager to have a full pre season, not in a crisis situation next September. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 52 minutes ago, J7 said: It’s the same with overplaying 5th, when both Man Utd and Spurs were a shambles, and Champions League quarter finalists finished level with us. Anything lower would have been a failure. Yep. About a dozen clubs ‘overachieved’ vs wage bill last season due to the shitshows at Spurs and Man Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 minute ago, Whitley mag said: I really like the bloke and appreciate everything he’s done for the club. Some think he’s got enough credit in the bank to put things right which is fair enough. I want the best for the club which in my opinion is a new manager to have a full pre season, not in a crisis situation next September. My preference is staying with Howe but totally agree re pre season. If the club have any doubts then the change must happen at the end of the season and not mid season. Unless there is serious risk of relegation it just writes off another year doing it pre Christmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I bet a few EPL teams would love Howe just now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 It doesn't help that we usually start the season slowly. Last season we had no Europe and were poor until Isak went on a scoring streak in december or something like that. If Howe stays then I'm not sure if he survives the typical slow start that we've allways had under him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 13 minutes ago, TK-421 said: You only mentioned the mighty Luton Town! The mere mention of them often fair curdles my blood to be fair. Horrible memories. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: I really like the bloke and appreciate everything he’s done for the club. Some think he’s got enough credit in the bank to put things right which is fair enough. I want the best for the club which in my opinion is a new manager to have a full pre season, not in a crisis situation next September. You'd hope there was another manager out there atm that would come to us that could do as well or better than Howe given the resources and situation at the club, absolutely. Not many, though. And do performances this season have you looking as a fan of a football club thinking "this isnt good enough"? Definitely. What's important to remember imo is that we have a manager that has in a few years got us over performing on a consistent basis, which is what we need given our position. Turned around bad periods with changes in tactics, which is what we need. Made lesser players better, which is what we need. Made some good decisions in the transfer market, which is what we need. With more support and long term thinking. Held things together at a higher level than his remit demands, unfortunately, what we need. Perfection is a consistent pursuit, never a given. Last summer was horrible. So were the couple previous. Howe was the only one standing there. If he has that much power over PIF and they've caved to his demands then that's mental from them. But it hasn't happened, he's filled holes they've not filled. We don't look like scoring, you know we're going to give away easy goals, players you'd expect to be contributing more aren't, players you'd hope were going to be better, haven't been. If this is longer term, then absolutely yes. But to bin managers after brief poor spells is what unsuccessful clubs that spend way more than we have do. Edited April 21 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: We’re above Villa, Spurs are above us in 6th Villa managed par with us last season with CL (and went further in that competition than us). Last I checked they’re still in Europe. Palace are still in Europe and above us. There are no excuses for the dire performances in the league this season given the resources available. And if we need to be out of Europe for Howe to cope, he shouldn’t be here. Capology, fbref, Givemesport and Salaryleaks all have us as 8th biggest. All of them have Villa above us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 minute ago, magorific said: Capology, fbref, Givemesport and Salaryleaks all have us as 8th biggest. All of them have Villa above us. They’re based on last season’s books - the last one published. When this years’ are published we’ll be above them. Villa’s two expensive loanees left, and we signed six players after losing Isak from the wage bill (and Lloyd Kelly too of course). Our new signings for the season will have added at least £20m to the wage bill (allowing for Isak dropping off). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 20/04/2026 at 21:35, TheBrownBottle said: Ho’way man, I’d be surprised if Bruno had heard of Eddie Howe in January 2022 No. But I’m certain he’d heard of Kieran Trippier, who clearly believed in Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Also, there are those of us who are in the middle who don’t really know what the club should do because of all he has done here. Both represent gambles. I always try to choose my words very carefully when it comes to him, a) because of his achievements, but mainly because of his conduct here, and how he goes about his craft. The prem is full of acting clowns, but you couldn’t get more authenticity than Eddie Howe. Some of the players need a long look in the mirror also, they should be getting just as much criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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