Eddie Howe

[Lotus]

I understand having to outrun the good and the bad Manchester clubs, Liverpool, Arsenal, etc. They have excellent players and we haven't the footballing ability throughout the team to compete with them.

 

But against technically inferior players I would like to see us outplay them and the manager to outsmart them with the chosen tactics. But with us it seems to be run run run. I couldn't stand it with Pardew when he actually said it as it showed his obvious limitations. EH I want to be so much more. He's having a tough time adapting though. We're looking pretty one dimensional. 

[timeEd32]

1 minute ago, BShearer said:

1 point total from 6 vs mighty Luton Town. Tonali alone cost more than whole Luton squad cost probably.

these are not issues we can only fix with more transfers.

Funny you use a player completely unavailable to make a point that’s willfully ignoring that important context.

[alexf]

42 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

In fairness other than against Bailey, Burn generally does well against fast players.

 

There's been plenty times people have said things like "Saka will rinse Burn" but it's never happened. Luton are playing with a front 3 and Ogbene as wingback though and he's isolated him 1v1 and absolutely roasted him all game, Howe should have taken him off after 10 minutes.

 

Can't agree with this. Burn has been rinsed plenty in the past and looked our weakest link he majority of time this and last season. The difference is he used to have Joelinton or Willock doubling up for him and protecting. 

 

I'm not gonna blame him though, he doesn't pick himself and isn't going to miraculous improve his attributes. 

 

It's on Howe this for not recognising that the negatives far out weigh he positives of Burn at Left back. He's a left side of a back 3 only. 

 

I thought after that Man U game, Tino had cemented left back as his to lose but has seemingly done nothing wrong and found himself out the team. 

 

The Forrest loss and the dropped points here are entirely on his team selection. 

Still love him but he needs to accept the criticism for this. 

[Erikse]

11 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

He won’t. Love Eddie to bits but he doesn’t see things that need changing until it’s obvious to even the blind drunks.

 

Going back to what he said in that interview.. "I truly believe that if you keep being consistent with what you do, good things will come." Being consistent can be great, but sometimes we need some flexibility..

[Yorkie]

5 minutes ago, BShearer said:

1 point total from 6 vs mighty Luton Town. Tonali alone cost more than whole Luton squad cost probably.

these are not issues we can only fix with more transfers.

 

6 from the mighty Villa.

 

It's a poor result and he's made errors. But I'd be more worried if he wasn't making changes at all.

[Shak]

People need to accept that a manager being poor at certain aspects of their job doesn't make them a bad manager.

 

Pointing out things that Howe is doing that you don't agree with doesn't mean you want him fired. It's important to identify his weaknesses so we can see if he's improving on them.

 

By the same token, Howe having weaknesses doesn't mean that he's on borrowed time here. We're going through a bit of a rough few months but he's still got so much to offer as a manager and he'll get us back on the right track if we get the right players in this summer.

[Decky]

I love Howe but the Burn stuff lately is worrying me. Burn hasn’t been all bad, he’s had a couple of good games recently but he clearly struggles against pace. We’ve a £35m full back on the bench who has been excellent when we’ve seen him and we would have won this game today if he started Tino.

The thing that worries me about Howe is why does he not see it? And I don’t mean in game I mean before the game when he looks at our opposition does he not see their wingers and think Burn will struggle with the pace? Is he showing too much loyalty to Burn? 

[cubaricho]

11 minutes ago, Myleftboot said:

Right I’m going to say it.Eddie howe outstanding coach not so good manager?

 

 

 

So brave of you. 

[Lotus]

It's very pleasing to be able to relate to the manager and EH is extremely personable. I want the club to continue succeeding though and I don't care who's in charge for that to happen. 

I certainly don't think it's time for a change by any means but EH has to change. I don't think PIF will stand for too much more of this. That's sad because I think someone who's delivered so an outstanding season (22-23) should be given the chance to correct things. Guess we see how things are by the end of the season. 

[SUPERTOON]

Starting Burn wasn’t the issue, it was leaving him on when he was so painfully bad. If he subs him earlier we win the game imo.

[54]

Just now, Decky said:

I love Howe but the Burn stuff lately is worrying me. Burn hasn’t been all bad, he’s had a couple of good games recently but he clearly struggles against pace. We’ve a £35m full back on the bench who has been excellent when we’ve seen him and we would have won this game today if he started Tino.

The thing that worries me about Howe is why does he not see it? And I don’t mean in game I mean before the game when he looks at our opposition does he not see their wingers and think Burn will struggle with the pace? Is he showing too much loyalty to Burn? 

He's probably thinking:

 

"We've been defensively really solid these last two games, and have been back to our best in that regard, Burn pocketed Diaby on Wednesday, and was man of the match against Fulham. I should probably stick with the same back five thats given that solidity"

[Myleftboot]

1 minute ago, cubaricho said:

So brave of you. 

Cheers kid. ?

[cubaricho]

2 minutes ago, Shak said:

We're going through a bit of a rough few months but he's still got so much to offer as a manager and he'll get us back on the right track if we get the right players in this summer.

At the very least he deserves a crack at the upcoming summer overhaul and making his mark with the new squad. 

[ponsaelius]

This and the Forest game have been alarm bells for his stubbornness tactically.

 

He gets a bit of a pass in that he has basically had no room for manoeuvre with the midfield 3 available and the balance hasn't worked at all really since Miley came in (even though individually he's shown promise, and definitely gonna be great). We could have tried another system though at some point to tweak things. He really is amazingly stubborn on that front - I nearly collapsed from shock when he went to a back 5 mid game against Villa.

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, 54 said:

He's probably thinking:

 

"We've been defensively really solid these last two games, and have been back to our best in that regard, Burn pocketed Diaby on Wednesday, and was man of the match against Fulham. I should probably stick with the same back five thats given that solidity"

And again that is not a issue, the issue is leaving him on for as long as he did when everyone can see how bad he was.

[timeEd32]

5 minutes ago, alexf said:

 

Can't agree with this. Burn has been rinsed plenty in the past and looked our weakest link he majority of time this and last season. The difference is he used to have Joelinton or Willock doubling up for him and protecting. 

 

I'm not gonna blame him though, he doesn't pick himself and isn't going to miraculous improve his attributes. 

 

It's on Howe this for not recognising that the negatives far out weigh he positives of Burn at Left back. He's a left side of a back 3 only. 

 

I thought after that Man U game, Tino had cemented left back as his to lose but has seemingly done nothing wrong and found himself out the team. 

 

The Forrest loss and the dropped points here are entirely on his team selection. 

Still love him but he needs to accept the criticism for this. 

Agree with this except for the Forest part. That was the peak of our fatigue and when Tino apparently needed rest. 

[Decky]

1 minute ago, 54 said:

He's probably thinking:

 

"We've been defensively really solid these last two games, and have been back to our best in that regard, Burn pocketed Diaby on Wednesday, and was man of the match against Fulham. I should probably stick with the same back five thats given that solidity"

What was he thinking at half time then?

[Coffee_Johnny]

However exposed Burn was today, he has still put in some stellar performances recently. I also think he hasn’t cost us as much as Trippier’s little spell if fuckwittery cost us. 

[Vaj]

Probably all already said. Great comeback but two points dropped and that was on Howe. Everyone could see that Burn had to come off or get help at half time, reactive not proactive from Howe. Tino is clearly our best option at left back…play him! No coincidence we didn’t concede again when he came on 

[54]

Just now, Decky said:

What was he thinking at half time then?

That we're in a really scrappy game, and want to have leaders on the pitch? Something I can understand. 

[Vaj]

1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

However exposed Burn was today, he has still put in some stellar performances recently. I also think he hasn’t cost us as much as Trippier’s little spell if fuckwittery cost us. 

Difference is that Trippier has been playing well most of the games but then has had ‘moments’. Burn, when he isn’t playing well, can be awful and you could see it coming 

[Jonas]

Never ceases to amaze me how many people despite watching thousands of football matches think its automatic that the higher placed team beats the lower placed team despite the thousands of times that doesn't happen including when were the lower place team...like a few days ago.

[Gallowgate Toon]

He won't overreact which is good, and 4 points from the last 2 is more than I thought we'd get. We are looking more like our old selves in many ways too but not quite there defensively which is a combination of factors.

 

Got to start learning lessons about Burn now though. The targeting of him these days is a very, very evident pattern and is getting regular success now.

[TRon]

4 minutes ago, Decky said:

What was he thinking at half time then?

 

 

We'll score more than them.

[Holmesy]

6 minutes ago, Decky said:

I love Howe but the Burn stuff lately is worrying me. Burn hasn’t been all bad, he’s had a couple of good games recently but he clearly struggles against pace. We’ve a £35m full back on the bench who has been excellent when we’ve seen him and we would have won this game today if he started Tino.

The thing that worries me about Howe is why does he not see it? And I don’t mean in game I mean before the game when he looks at our opposition does he not see their wingers and think Burn will struggle with the pace? Is he showing too much loyalty to Burn? 

This is a guy who apparently spends every waking hour studying video footage of our performances and our opponents, so there’s literally no excuse.  I could show a few of our performances to someone who has never watched football before and they would spot Dan Burn as our weak link. Whatever he is seeing, I would like him to explain, because at the moment it looks like he’s just ignoring a glaring problem that is costing us points and letting the whole team down.