80 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 There's plenty to be concerned about re: Howe but we don't need to start picking on ridiculous shit to make him look silly. It will take 3 minutes to watch a post match interview with him on our website. It's perfectly clear he wasn't trying to use the weather as any kind of excuse for today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiddyLevine Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 9 minutes ago, 80 said: I agree that the idea of us hiring an elite manager might be fanciful, but they don't necessarily have to be seen as elite today to actually be elite once they get here. Frankly, Eddie was a great example of that until about 12 months ago. If we've got the talent at director/board level, it's very plausible we get someone seriously good, regardless of their reputation. I accept I'm one of the first to say that's a huge "if", mind. The answer to Joes question is £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 5 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said: Shearer raised the point of the pressing, I almost forgot we did that. Last season there was the excuse that we were too tired to do that cos of the CL and injuries. I bought that. But what’s the reason now?? And when we have done it this season we've looked good. Not sure why it's not happening with more regularity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Pardew Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: Fucking hell, if I need to get the Alan Pardew Excuse Bingo cards out then we’re more fucked than I thought. Ever blame the weather, king? @Alan Pardew I may have done that yeah but know it was because I was fwustrated that we lost. I wanted to kick on after that season we got Europa League and 5th. But they bought me players like Vurnon Anita. Ashley was never my mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 14 minutes ago, 80 said: There's plenty to be concerned about re: Howe but we don't need to start picking on ridiculous shit to make him look silly. It will take 3 minutes to watch a post match interview with him on our website. It's perfectly clear he wasn't trying to use the weather as any kind of excuse for today. Agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 It's getting pretty boring mind after seemingly every away game for the last year and change, that we get battered and seem to not have a clue. Out fought, giving it away needlessly and the press disappearing. I missed the game today so can't comment on what specifically went wrong here, but it's apparent from the comments that it's more of the same. And that isn't good enough. It's also not acceptable to be well up for certain games and then drop points against teams we should beat. Happening time and time again and l fear that the window for Eddie to get a grip of it has passed. I really, really hope he proves me wrong because he's been so special for our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 2 hours ago, Yorkie said: A season bettered only by those under Keegan, Robson and Howe himself, but aye alright. You're setting your benchmark based on 14 years of Mike Ashley but that's fine I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Just now, SiLvOR said: It's getting pretty boring mind after seemingly every away game for the last year and change, that we get battered and seem to not have a clue. Out fought, giving it away needlessly and the press disappearing. I missed the game today so can't comment on what specifically went wrong here, but it's apparent from the comments that it's more of the same. And that isn't good enough. It's also not acceptable to be well up for certain games and then drop points against teams we should beat. Happening time and time again and l fear that the window for Eddie to get a grip of it has passed. I really, really hope he proves me wrong because he's been so special for our club. Some huge mistakes although after Harvey Barnes basically passed it straight to Brentford leading to a goal he immediately scored so he gets a special dispensation from the King on that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 2 hours ago, Yorkie said: If you reckon 11/12 and/or 05/06 were better than last season then fair enough. I certainly don't, even if we picked up a few more points. Nobody said they did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Looking at the league table though regardless of how shit we play, it's a joke, nobody in the entire UK would have believed you, if you'd say, by December, Man City would be fourth, with Notts Forest 2pts behind them. This season is turning out to be the season where anyone beats anyone, it's been bizarre, things aren't going great for us, but they're not for a lot of teams. Man City, Spurs, Man Utd, Villa, West Ham, there's only Chelsea who've stepped up this season and granted the amount they've thrown about. I'm beginning to wonder if the PSR thing is actually playing its part now, with sides like Fulham, Forest, Brighton, and Bournemouth pushing, with big clubs afraid to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 3 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Looking at the league table though regardless of how shit we play, it's a joke, nobody in the entire UK would have believed you, if you'd say, by December, Man City would be fourth, with Notts Forest 2pts behind them. This season is turning out to be the season where anyone beats anyone, it's been bizarre, things aren't going great for us, but they're not for a lot of teams. Man City, Spurs, Man Utd, Villa, West Ham, there's only Chelsea who've stepped up this season and granted the amount they've thrown about. I'm beginning to wonder if the PSR thing is actually playing its part now, with sides like Fulham, Forest, Brighton, and Bournemouth pushing, with big clubs afraid to spend. It isn't just the UK. It's crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 7 hours ago, cubaricho said: And when we have done it this season we've looked good. Not sure why it's not happening with more regularity. I suppose it only works if you have a team trying to play through it from the back so we can turn the ball over in the final third. Most teams are now quite happy to let us have the ball if necessary because if we win the ball in our own third we don't seem to be able to hit teams on the counter and we can't create anything of note against a low block. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Sounds to me if this is correct from the press conference that he really is struggling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 This is the form table for the last 11 match days (some teams are on 10 games as it does not include todays and Mondays games). To say our form is inconsistent is giving us a little bit too much credit. Based off the last 11 games it’s near relegation form LDDLLWWLDDL. I’m still not quite in the Howe out camp but given our squad, lack of injuries, no European football this is incredibly poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 "Still only 6 points from europe though" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 4 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: This is the form table for the last 11 match days (some teams are on 10 games as it does not include todays and Mondays games). To say our form is inconsistent is giving us a little bit too much credit. Based off the last 11 games it’s near relegation form LDDLLWWLDDL. I’m still not quite in the Howe out camp but given our squad, lack of injuries, no European football this is incredibly poor. Considering how bad West Ham and Leicester are, it’s pretty damming to be below them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Palace being above us is in that table is hilarious - they are fucking woeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Y’all just finding things to shank Eddie with now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 1 minute ago, Menace said: Palace being above us is in that table is hilarious - they are fucking woeful. And yet should have beat us comfortably last week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Just now, cubaricho said: Y’all just finding things to shank Eddie with now. Looking at the form table and discussing poor form is finding something to shank a manager with now ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Just now, cubaricho said: Y’all just finding things to shank Eddie with now. I don't think the results of 11 games out of 15 that we have played being relegation fodder is "finding things" personally. The performances have been present on the pitch. We are shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 I always remember that Luton away game this time last year because of how bad we were .We created nothing and were beaten by an awful team. It was blamed on injuries at the time but literally so many of our away performances since then have been a carbon copy of that game and nothing is changing . In fact it's getting worse as we have now started playing like that at home to the lesser teams as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 3 minutes ago, Menace said: "Still only 6 points from europe though" I think this is what is stopping him from being under real pressure. The middle of the league table is so flat so we could easily move up if we did hit a bit of form. Also getting lucky points early in the season has given us a points buffer from the relegation zone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Now I know how Usher felt when he sang Burn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 The next 5 games are all winnable, see where we are after them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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