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1 hour ago, LionOfGosforth said:

 

After the win at QPR in mid February, which was the win that got them all frothing at the mouth and purring at the Barcelona of the North, they were 13pts from second place, yet still convinced second was possible. And they call us delewded :lol:

 

"Purring", I remember that, what a weapons-grade tool he was!

 

You just know they were glued to the Bournemouth match through the optics of what this meant to 'the mags' and how lucky we are now that Liverpool are shit this week and Salah was bribed to miss. 

 

Make no mistake about it, they've abandoned their season as a bit of a damp squid. Their only success now is us not making Yew-rup. It's all they have and it's tragic for them but hey-ho, on we go.

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5 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said:

There's probably going to be 1 or 2 big clubs at least going down this season who will probably go straight back up. Can't see them going up anytime soon.

 

They've done really well this season, especially considering their injuries and managerial change. However, there is a massive difference from being an actual promotion threat to just being in and around it. IF they have patience and follow this current model, I think they'll get there, but it'll be yo-yo for them with hope of stability, and I think there are too many serious owners who when in that position of coming up will take greater advantage than the lot they have now. Whether that's enough for their fans, I'm not sure.

 

The longer you stay out of the top flight, the harder it is to get back there, unless significant investment + time, is spent changing a club top to bottom. It could happen, but like you say, too many big clubs in threat for next season, plus several decent clubs will miss out this year, all with better starting points & resource. It's a tough league. Looks easy 1st few months as teams get used to their new status (coming up & going down) but when the dust settles and the run in kicks in, quality, managerial experience & squad depth all kick in and its always the ones who have recently been in the prem which have the best chance of seeing it through.

 

The other thing to consider, is it's much easier to come up, make a noise, then become unable to replicate it again next season. We've seen that more closely in the Prem, but it happens further down. There's probably more chance they finish below their final position now compared to next year, than above it. Lose that buzz of promotion, teams take you seriously, best players get poached and successful loans return. They'll feel all that next season.

 

 

 

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Other than Brentford & Leeds, the rest of the teams had been in the Premier League at some point a few years before.

 

The Play-Offs are looking refreshing with Boro, Luton, Millwall & Blackburn in there, but it wouldn't take much, or be a surprise for yo-yo teams like WBA, Watford or Norwich to gatecrash.

 

Basically, it's becoming more a closed shop the Premier League. The odd exception like Brentford and Huddersfield not so long ago but if you're not in it for 2-3 years, you've missed the boat.

 

 

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3 hours ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Anyone know many players who play regularly for them are actual Sunderland registered players on contracts, from what I guess theres around 5 loanees who regularly start for them ?

 

Actually only 3, Diallo, Michut and Gelhradt (and he only joined in Jan)

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6 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

As shite as Norwich have been it's still only 1-0. 70-30 posession though, not great for the lands sexiest football team.

Not sure why you think this is a bad thing to be honest, a team that’s just come up from division one winning one nil and as it stands sitting in tenth with a win today will leave them 20 points from safety and only 5 from the play offs.

 

As it stands this has been a very good season for them.

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3 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

Not sure why you think this is a bad thing to be honest, a team that’s just come up from division one winning one nil and as it stands sitting in tenth with a win today will leave them 20 points from safety and only 5 from the play offs.

 

As it stands this has been a very good season for them.

think it's because a portion of their fanbase claim they've been playing like prime Barcelona

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8 minutes ago, Jack27 said:

think it's because a portion of their fanbase claim they've been playing like prime Barcelona

Every fanbase has idiots - a portion of ours (me included) thought pope would have been an unnecessary purchase.

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