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11 minutes ago, Kanj said:

Isak is a nice to have for Liverpool, they do not need to have him. They could sign Mateta, Ramos, Samu etc for far less and get the output they need when Ekitke needs a rest. 

 

This is a good point i think alot of people aren't considering. Liverpool have lost 3 forward players in Diaz, Nunez and Jota(RIP) and have only brought in Ekitike.

 

At some point they will need to make a decision whether to pay up now at our asking price, move in another direction, or continue to wait it out and risk getting nothing.

 

Could be why his Agent and Liverpool are making the push now and hoping we buckle 

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On whether the club could block his sale:

"I don’t think it’s that straightforward, otherwise we’d have done that a long time ago. I don’t think we’re in a position to do that currently."

 

Don’t like the sound of this and don’t understand it. Eddie saying this just encourages Liverpool to make another low ball offer as apparently we can’t stop him leaving. 

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5 minutes ago, Magpie Mover said:

On whether the club could block his sale:

"I don’t think it’s that straightforward, otherwise we’d have done that a long time ago. I don’t think we’re in a position to do that currently."

 

Don’t like the sound of this and don’t understand it. Eddie saying this just encourages Liverpool to make another low ball offer as apparently we can’t stop him leaving. 

Yeah that's seriously concerning like. Not quite sure what we're up against here.

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6 minutes ago, Magpie Mover said:

On whether the club could block his sale:

"I don’t think it’s that straightforward, otherwise we’d have done that a long time ago. I don’t think we’re in a position to do that currently."

 

Don’t like the sound of this and don’t understand it. Eddie saying this just encourages Liverpool to make another low ball offer as apparently we can’t stop him leaving. 

Howe likely wants the cunt out and to recycle the significant PSR headroom.  Managers can’t take ‘principled’ stands by allowing WC centre forwards to rot in the reserves - if we don’t replace the goals then Howe might find himself being replaced.  

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16 minutes ago, Magpie Mover said:

On whether the club could block his sale:

"I don’t think it’s that straightforward, otherwise we’d have done that a long time ago. I don’t think we’re in a position to do that currently."

 

Don’t like the sound of this and don’t understand it. Eddie saying this just encourages Liverpool to make another low ball offer as apparently we can’t stop him leaving. 


Thats the only line I’m curious about. 
 

however, legally, since there is no release clause we hold every single card here from that perspective. We are not in a PSR headache right now. We have no obligation to sell.
 

I assume he’s really meaning if a 180m bid comes in maybe we’re taking it and saying bye. So I assume it’s really about it being an absurd number or a number we feel like taking to end the saga. Isak doesn’t hold any fucking leverage here.
 

to me, it’s about the fact that no manager can unilaterally close the door on a sale. That decision sits with PIF, and he’s being careful not to overstep or over promise. 

 

 

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Just now, oldtype said:

Getting Liverpool to bite on the 150m is the best case outcome here and Eddie is smart enough to know it.

Too bad that isn't going to happen and it's still a bad outcome as you've given everyone a blueprint on how to buy your best players at market value. 

 

Important to remember Isak has been not for sale all summer. 

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2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Too bad that isn't going to happen and it's still a bad outcome as you've given everyone a blueprint on how to buy your best players at market value. 

 

Important to remember Isak has been not for sale all summer. 

 

Why do we care that clubs are buying our best players if they are capitulating and paying the price that we demand. That just allows us to re-invest and improve. 

 

I've said this before, but a 150m player is typically not three times better than three 50m players. Once you get to this level of ridiculously high fee, I always want to be on the side that's getting the money. 

 

 

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Just now, oldtype said:

 

Why do we care that clubs are buying our best players if they are capitulating and paying the price that we demand. That just allows us to re-invest and improve. 

 

I've said this before, but a 150m player is typically not three times better than three 50m players. Once you get to this level of ridiculously high fee, I always want to be on the side that's getting the money. 

 

 

 

It's quite obvious no? Liverpool have tapped the player up and embarked on a campaign through the media to unsettle our player not once but twice. If you don't make a stand you embolden then as you've demonstrated this tactic works. 

 

It's not rocket science. 

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2 minutes ago, oldtype said:

 

Why do we care that clubs are buying our best players if they are capitulating and paying the price that we demand. That just allows us to re-invest and improve. 

 

I've said this before, but a 150m player is typically not three times better than three 50m players. Once you get to this level of ridiculously high fee, I always want to be on the side that's getting the money. 

 

 

 


The problem is, we don’t score goals in games said player misses and we have 3 weeks remaining to effectively sign 2 players needed to replace that output having failed all

summer to sign arguably less important components of the team.

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3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

It's quite obvious no? Liverpool have tapped the player up and embarked on a campaign through the media to unsettle our player not once but twice. If you don't make a stand you embolden then as you've demonstrated this tactic works. 

 

It's not rocket science. 


Again, why do we care as long as we’re “emboldening” them to pay the exact amount of money that we demand.

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Just now, Ronaldo said:


The problem is, we don’t score goals in games said player misses and we have 3 weeks remaining to effectively sign 2 players needed to replace that output having failed all

summer to sign arguably less important components of the team.


All of this of course assumes that we have a competent transfer team to replace him which we may not have at the moment :lol: 


But 150m is enough money that I’d be tempted to accept even if the striker replacement isn’t 100% the exact player we want.

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Just now, oldtype said:


Again, why do we care as long as we’re “emboldening” them to pay the exact amount of money that we demand.

Repeating myself now. We are getting a below market fee for someone who is legit world class. Someone who we didn't want to sell and the money is coming from the club who've tapped him up. 

 

It's not even optics, it's strengthening a rival, it's cucking ourselves, it's making ourselves weaker and it's sending a clear message to anyone who has eyes and a functioning brain. We are not a serious club come and get out best players even those who are not for sale. 

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22 minutes ago, Magpie Mover said:

On whether the club could block his sale:

"I don’t think it’s that straightforward, otherwise we’d have done that a long time ago. I don’t think we’re in a position to do that currently."

 

Don’t like the sound of this and don’t understand it. Eddie saying this just encourages Liverpool to make another low ball offer as apparently we can’t stop him leaving. 

 

Strange, what does that even mean?

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Just now, r0cafella said:

Repeating myself now. We are getting a below market fee for someone who is legit world class. Someone who we didn't want to sell and the money is coming from the club who've tapped him up. 

 

It's not even optics, it's strengthening a rival, it's cucking ourselves, it's making ourselves weaker and it's sending a clear message to anyone who has eyes and a functioning brain. We are not a serious club come and get out best players even those who are not for sale. 


Where we disagree is the idea that 150m is somehow “below market” for anyone other than prime Ronaldo or Messi. It would be the third highest transfer fee in the history of world football. If they want to pay that, have at it.

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1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

Repeating myself now. We are getting a below market fee for someone who is legit world class. Someone who we didn't want to sell and the money is coming from the club who've tapped him up. 

 

It's not even optics, it's strengthening a rival, it's cucking ourselves, it's making ourselves weaker and it's sending a clear message to anyone who has eyes and a functioning brain. We are not a serious club come and get out best players even those who are not for sale. 

 

I agree we are strengthening a rival and the defending champs but we also should get a pile of money PSR wise to build on what we have. Do you think we'll win the league next year with Isak? I don't. Play the long game get rid of this cunt but for at least 150M or put up with the fall out.

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2 minutes ago, oldtype said:


Where we disagree is the idea that 150m is somehow “below market” for anyone other than prime Ronaldo or Messi. It would be the third highest transfer fee in the history of world football. If they want to pay that, have at it.

It's not often legit world class players literally best in slot players are sold, and they especially aren't usually sold to clubs in the same league under these circumstances we'll run clubs generally don't allow for it. 

 

I don't believe we get 150m out of Liverpool they give us slightly more than they did for Wirtz which is hilariously bad given any metric of comparison. 

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3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Why do we care if we sell our best player to a domestic rival? Why is that even a question?


They’re not our rival next season and in any case, we can use the money to improve us more than Isak would improve them.


Would be utter malpractice not to accept an offer close to 150m just because we’re angry they “tapped him up.” Emotional decision making like that is exactly why fans should not be in charge of clubs 

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Just now, r0cafella said:

It's not often legit world class players literally best in slot players are sold, and they especially aren't usually sold to clubs in the same league under these circumstances we'll run clubs generally don't allow for it. 

 

I don't believe we get 150m out of Liverpool they give us slightly more than they did for Wirtz which is hilariously bad given any metric of comparison. 

and we should just lie down and accept the crumbs.

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3 minutes ago, McDog said:

 

I agree we are strengthening a rival and the defending champs but we also should get a pile of money PSR wise to build on what we have. Do you think we'll win the league next year with Isak? I don't. Play the long game get rid of this cunt but for at least 150M or put up with the fall out.

No, he's gone but a savvy clubs tells him to sit down and find a solution that works for all and not just for him. 

 

Instead we are scrambling around trying to replace him with players who are far inferior for massive money because we want to peddle him and give him what he wants. 

 

He can be binned next summer on our terms not this summer on his. 

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Just now, oldtype said:


They’re not our rival next season and in any case, we can use the money to improve us more than Isak would improve them.


Would be utter malpractice not to accept an offer close to 150m just because we’re angry they “tapped him up.” Emotional decision making like that is exactly why fans should not be in charge of clubs 

 

 

You are mostly right. Closely ain't good enough. Fork over 150M.

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Just now, oldtype said:


They’re not our rival next season and in any case, we can use the money to improve us more than Isak would improve them.


Would be utter malpractice not to accept an offer close to 150m just because we’re angry they “tapped him up.” Emotional decision making like that is exactly why fans should not be in charge of clubs 

that's not necessarily emotional. I already outlined that taking a Parishesque cuntish stance has more value than the money we get. It's pretty obvious that we are inviting more disrespectful behavior from the cartel clubs, and any other player to throw a tantrum in order to get what they want. If there is nothing untoward that we are not seeing, then we totally can afford to hold onto him to make such statements.

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