Guest Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 https://www.premierleague.com/tables?co=1&se=-1&ha=-1 Damn, we're only 8th in the all-time table. Keegan, Dalglish, Gullitttt, Robson, Carver, Roeder, Clarke, Souness, Allardyce, Keegan, Shearer, Hougton, Kinnear, Pardew, McLaren, Rafa, Bruce, Howe out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:12, Ronaldo said: It’s Villa we need to finish above for top 4. The rest of the top 4 are just too good. United and Brighton aren’t relevant. Expand Reeks of when you said Federer would never get back to #1 this. You're calling teams above you in the table irrelevant. Have a word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Brighton aren't above Newcastle United in the table Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:12, 54 said: Well if everything is so certain, might as well end the season now tbh. Expand I literally just said the opposite. 4th / 5th is to play for and we’re a better side than Man U and Brighton who’ll likely finish 7th / 8th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:16, OCK said: Brighton aren't above Newcastle United in the table Expand Never said they were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) Notwithstanding any mitigating circumstances, teams that play shit, scrape wins and are regularly humiliated whenever they play anyone decent shouldn't be anywhere near the top 4 come the end of a season this competitive. Eventually they get found out. Last season that was Spurs, this year unless they turn a corner it's Man United. They've only just barely started having a tough run of games. Edited December 9, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:15, Froggy said: You're calling teams above you in the table irrelevant. Expand On 09/12/2023 at 17:17, Froggy said: Never said they were. Expand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:15, Froggy said: Reeks of when you said Federer would never get back to #1 this. You're calling teams above you in the table irrelevant. Have a word. Expand Do you still believe the ATROCIOUS performances by your team are because Varane is injured and Onana is new to the Premier league. Like, nowt to do with Ten Bob? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:15, Froggy said: Reeks of when you said Federer would never get back to #1 this. You're calling teams above you in the table irrelevant. Have a word. Expand Fucking hell, when was that - 10 years ago? Man U aren’t relevant to our season in the context of top 4. Why? Because they’re not good enough to achieve top 4. I hope that’s clear. Why you so bothered about Man U anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:19, Rod said: Do you still believe the ATROCIOUS performances by your team are because Varane is injured and Onana is new to the Premier league. Like, nowt to do with Ten Bob? Expand I think missing two high class centre backs is very important aye, but I don't believe I've ever said it's nothing to do with Ten Hag. He's made some really questionable decisions. Martial over Hojlund today another one. He's in a little bit of trouble given that our next two games are Bayern and Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:20, Ronaldo said: Fucking hell, when was that - 10 years ago? Man U aren’t relevant to our season in the context of top 4. Why? Because they’re not good enough to achieve top 4. I hope that’s clear. Why you so bothered about Man U anyway? Expand Don't go down this route. I've been one of your biggest defenders in the past. You're a way better poster than to be coming out with that nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:25, Froggy said: Don't go down this route. I've been one of your biggest defenders in the past. You're a way better poster than to be coming out with that nonsense. Expand I get being able to give it out but not take it is a symptom of soreness so I’ll leave it there, you big wet blanket. My Man U supporting fiancée (from Didsbury - proper fan) is in a little strop also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:24, Froggy said: I think missing two high class centre backs is very important aye, but I don't believe I've ever said it's nothing to do with Ten Hag. He's made some really questionable decisions. Martial over Hojlund today another one. He's in a little bit of trouble given that our next two games are Bayern and Liverpool. Expand Purely hypothetical, but if he loses those two games is he going to be on the chopping block? What's the feeling amongst the fan base in terms of how bad would things potentially be allowed to get? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 https://www.soccerstats.com/homeaway.asp?league=england Need to improve our away form to have any chance of top 4-5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:10, Froggy said: You leave Cuba alone. He's one of the few posters on here able to post sensibly and not let emotion butcher his posts. Expand Kissarse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:36, Ronaldo said: I get being able to give it out but not take it is a symptom of soreness so I’ll leave it there, you big wet blanket. My Man U supporting fiancée (from Didsbury - proper fan) is in a little strop also. Expand you know I can take it. Thickest skin on here. Your patter is just better than that. On 09/12/2023 at 17:38, Keegans Export said: Purely hypothetical, but if he loses those two games is he going to be on the chopping block? What's the feeling amongst the fan base in terms of how bad would things potentially be allowed to get? Expand He'd definitely be on the block losing both, but the manner of the defeat also matters. I would think he'd survive two losses, but we would then need to go on a pretty decent run for him to continue in the job. It's fairly clear what the best team is now. If he continues with the silly decisions he only has himself to blame. Jim'll fix it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 17:24, Froggy said: I think missing two high class centre backs is very important aye, but I don't believe I've ever said it's nothing to do with Ten Hag. He's made some really questionable decisions. Martial over Hojlund today another one. He's in a little bit of trouble given that our next two games are Bayern and Liverpool. Expand Who are the two high class centre backs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 18:08, Geordie Ahmed said: Who are the two high class centre backs? Expand You know who they are. Why are you asking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Varane isn't high class nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 18:11, El Prontonise said: Varane isn't high class nowadays. Expand You've been against Varane for years Neesy and I've never understood it. He's elite, and he's our best centre back. As good as Martinez is, Varane is much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 18:10, Froggy said: You know who they are. Why are you asking? Expand Martinez I agree but who is the other? Because I'm hoping you don't mention Varane, he's been on the bench for weeks. So he's hardly injured. It's either a falling out or Ten Hag doesn't fancy him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 18:12, Geordie Ahmed said: Martinez I agree but who is the other? Because I'm hoping you don't mention Varane, he's been on the bench for weeks. So he's hardly injured. It's either a falling out or Ten Hag doesn't fancy him Expand Whatever the reason, Varane isn't playing. It's nothing to do with Ten Hag not fancying him. I've said numerous times before that we've backed Ten Hag with all decisions so far, but the Varane one is worrying. He has always seemed like a model professional, so it's the first player/manager dispute where the manager might not be backed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 18:14, Froggy said: Whatever the reason, Varane isn't playing. It's nothing to do with Ten Hag not fancying him. I've said numerous times before that we've backed Ten Hag with all decisions so far, but the Varane one is worrying. He has always seemed like a model professional, so it's the first player/manager dispute where the manager might not be backed. Expand The ultimate reason is irrelevant, you claimed he was injured If there is a falling out then that is on the manager and if he prefers to play a Left Back at Centre Back instead then he should get criticised for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 18:15, Geordie Ahmed said: The ultimate reason is irrelevant, you claimed he was injured Expand Well he was. We still don't know if there is a dispute. It could simply be that Varane was injured and Ten Hag thought Evans done well enough to keep his place. I doubt it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 18:21, Froggy said: Well he was. We still don't know if there is a dispute. It could simply be that Varane was injured and Ten Hag thought Evans done well enough to keep his place. I doubt it though. Expand He was asked that one time and he said tactical, not sure why he'd say that it he was injured My point is you can't say he's missing 2 Centre Backs because he chooses not to play one of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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