The Europeometer™ (2024/25) - NUFC Qualify for Conference League (at least)

[The College Dropout]

59 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

I agree, but Man Utd has proven to be a difficult team to beat for the top teams (except from us). I had some hopes if they didn't get to the final. It's wild to think about how many points 6th and especially 7th will get this season compared to other seasons.

 

 

 

I didn't. Was always going to be a bonus.

 

Liverpool winning the league and a good win at Fulham tilted my perspective on Chelsea. They've got a good chance of making it, I expected them to finish 6th/7th.

 

We should beat them. But i expect they will still be in the race come GW38 with a win probably enough to secure it.

20 minutes ago, Vaj said:

Bournemouth vs Villa game is huge for us. If Bournemouth can beat them then we should really finish above Villa regardless of the Chelsea game outcome. 

We need to beat Chelsea man.

 

Not beating Chelsea opens the gates for a GW38 draw that would see both Forest & Chelsea qualify, which we need to avoid. 

[Paully]

I can smell it lads 

 

Bournemouth 2-1 Villa 

NUFC 2-0 Chelsea 

Forest 1-1 Leicester 

 

 

[Vaj]

9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I didn't. Was always going to be a bonus.

 

Liverpool winning the league and a good win at Fulham tilted my perspective on Chelsea. They've got a good chance of making it, I expected them to finish 6th/7th.

 

We should beat them. But i expect they will still be in the race come GW38 with a win probably enough to secure it.

We need to beat Chelsea man.

 

Not beating Chelsea opens the gates for a GW38 draw that would see both Forest & Chelsea qualify, which we need to avoid. 

I agree that beating Chelsea is huge in terms of keeping it in our hands. However, if we do fail to win, we can still make it to where we need to be so can still hope that other teams slip up. Doesn't matter how we get there, as long as we do. 

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, Vaj said:

I agree that beating Chelsea is huge in terms of keeping it in our hands. However, if we do fail to win, we can still make it to where we need to be so can still hope that other teams slip up. Doesn't matter how we get there, as long as we do. 

The biggest threat would be a Forest-Chelsea draw that see's them both qualify with 68-69 points on the last day.

[Vaj]

54 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

The biggest threat would be a Forest-Chelsea draw that see's them both qualify with 68-69 points on the last day.

Again I do agree but there is then also the possibility of Forest drawing at West Ham and then needing to win the final game to finish above us if we went on to beat Everton. Lots of different scenarios can play out. Hopefully we do our job anyway but it is far from over if we only draw on Sunday.

[The College Dropout]

13 minutes ago, Vaj said:

Again I do agree but there is then also the possibility of Forest drawing at West Ham and then needing to win the final game to finish above us if we went on to beat Everton. Lots of different scenarios can play out. Hopefully we do our job anyway but it is far from over if we only draw on Sunday.

We'll have to see how the other results go. But we have the hardest GW37 fixture by a distance and we play last from the bunch. I expect 7th place will have 64 points minimum by 4pm of GW37 Saturday. That's massive pressure on us, if we are also on 64 points.

 

For me it's been clear what we need to do to secure the CL from since the League Cup final. We've dropped points when I expected we might and we've won every game we needed to win. Chelsea & Villa have picked up the points they should've got in that time too so there's no massive margin for error. I thought we needed to beat Chelsea then and I've never changed my mind. I thought it might be the death knell for Chelsea, while it won't be that - it will be a hammer blow.

 

You're right it's not over if we don't beat them. But I can't stand that mentality.

 

It's a must-win. Always has been for me. I want the players thinking the same thing and I'm sure they will. I think we are readying Big Joe for precisely that reason. 

[The College Dropout]

https://theanalyst.com/2025/05/champions-league-qualification-race-man-city-newcastle-chelsea-nottingham-forest-aston-villa

"To add a further worry, one of their most important players could be missing for these two games, as Joelinton is still struggling with a knee injury.

When he missed a three-game sequence against Man City, Forest and Liverpool back in February, Newcastle conceded nine goals – 20% of their total for the whole season."

[Scoot]

4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

https://theanalyst.com/2025/05/champions-league-qualification-race-man-city-newcastle-chelsea-nottingham-forest-aston-villa

"To add a further worry, one of their most important players could be missing for these two games, as Joelinton is still struggling with a knee injury.

When he missed a three-game sequence against Man City, Forest and Liverpool back in February, Newcastle conceded nine goals – 20% of their total for the whole season."

 

Love a negative don't you.

[SteV]

12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

https://theanalyst.com/2025/05/champions-league-qualification-race-man-city-newcastle-chelsea-nottingham-forest-aston-villa

"To add a further worry, one of their most important players could be missing for these two games, as Joelinton is still struggling with a knee injury.

When he missed a three-game sequence against Man City, Forest and Liverpool back in February, Newcastle conceded nine goals – 20% of their total for the whole season."

Feel like Man City away and Liverpool away is usually about 20% of our seasonal goal concession regardless.

[Elma]

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

The biggest threat would be a Forest-Chelsea draw that see's them both qualify with 68-69 points on the last day.

 

Provided we don't lose to Chelsea, we could avoid that with another point at Arsenal. If we could get to 68 with a final day win against Everton, then Forest would have to beat Chelsea on the final day and Chelsea wouldn't be able to rely on a draw either, depending on how many goals they can put past Man U a week today. Of course, if Villa win all three then in the above situation a Forest v Chelsea draw will be the only result that would get us over the line, provided we can put a few past Everton.

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Scoot said:

 

Love a negative don't you.

Not at all. I'm more bulish than most about our chances of beating Chelsea.

 

Just an interesting stat.

[The College Dropout]

55 minutes ago, Elma said:

 

Provided we don't lose to Chelsea, we could avoid that with another point at Arsenal. If we could get to 68 with a final day win against Everton, then Forest would have to beat Chelsea on the final day and Chelsea wouldn't be able to rely on a draw either, depending on how many goals they can put past Man U a week today. Of course, if Villa win all three then in the above situation a Forest v Chelsea draw will be the only result that would get us over the line, provided we can put a few past Everton.

I've more confidence in beating Chelsea at home than getting a point at the Emirates.

 

Your scenario also leaves the door open for Villa potentially.

 

Fuck that. Beat Chelsea and we have 2-swings at securing CL football, all in our hands.

[Erikse]

4 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

I didn't. Was always going to be a bonus.

 

Liverpool winning the league and a good win at Fulham tilted my perspective on Chelsea. They've got a good chance of making it, I expected them to finish 6th/7th.

 

We should beat them. But i expect they will still be in the race come GW38 with a win probably enough to secure it.

We need to beat Chelsea man.

 

Not beating Chelsea opens the gates for a GW38 draw that would see both Forest & Chelsea qualify, which we need to avoid. 

 

I mean their game away game at Villa Park literally ended in a draw. This time around it's their last home game of the season. Man Utd have allways been good vs Villa. They beat them twice last season despite Villa finishing 4th. It's almost like the Bournemouth situation for us. Not saying Villa weren't favourites to win this game, but it wasn't as clear as you would think (without the final).

 

Being mid to lower table didn't stop Man Utd from taking points off of Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, and Villa this season.

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Erikse

[AyeDubbleYoo]

3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

https://theanalyst.com/2025/05/champions-league-qualification-race-man-city-newcastle-chelsea-nottingham-forest-aston-villa

"To add a further worry, one of their most important players could be missing for these two games, as Joelinton is still struggling with a knee injury.

When he missed a three-game sequence against Man City, Forest and Liverpool back in February, Newcastle conceded nine goals – 20% of their total for the whole season."

 

In 3 of the hardest games like. 

[Yorkie]

We definitely shouldn't depart too much from previous badges and heritage. Could someone 'shop a seahorse and a magpie necking on with someone like Stevie Taylor having a tug in the background?

[Yorkie]

Wrong thread? Maybe. 

[Geogaddi]

All permutations and worries are pointless , beat Chelsea and we get top 5, don't beat them and we wont. Really is as simple as that .

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Geogaddi

[Ronaldo]

1 hour ago, Geogaddi said:

All permutations and worries are pointless , beat Chelsea and we get top 5, don't beat them and we wont. Really is as simple as that .

 

 

 

Not really. 4 points from our next 2 games will do just fine, however we get them.