The Europeometer™ (2024/25) - NUFC Qualify for Conference League (at least)

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I understand nerves but we basically have done everything we could possibly do bar winning every game. There's nothing more we can ask. 

 

If all our rivals win all their games by multiple goals then we'll be in a conversation. Otherwise we're doing it. 

[tarie4]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Yep.

 

I've got no reason to think we won't beat 1 of Arsenal or Everton. We should win and qualify for the CL.

 

And this is with a fair few injuries now.

 

As you say, if we get CL, we could add 2-4 players to take us to another level. We'll have had 2 seasons on 69-71 points and another 60-point season. Add another 2-4 quality players and we could be a 75-85 point team or a 70-80 point team + a deep CL run. That's another level from where we are and I think it keeps the Tonali's and Isak's long-term where we can add more of them. Could we start doubling our Saudi-sponsorship deals? And it helps keep the Saudi's super engaged.

 

If Villa gets CL, they can continue to wheel and deal and keep a similar squad level. If they can maintain this level of squad, they have the potential to be an 80-point side. That is why I hope they miss out and need a selling summer.

Yeah, I'm with you. Villa HAVE to miss out, they're a really good team now, way better squad than us with tons of players to choose from. Getting into the Champions League again will just make them even stronger. 

[WilliamPS]

1 minute ago, tarie4 said:

way better squad than us

I agree they have better depth but way better? Take out their loan players and I think it doesn’t look quite so good for them. 
 

Put it this way, I wouldn’t swap squads with them 

 

 

[Stifler]

9 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Stop me if I'm wrong, but if Chelsea or Villa lose on Friday, we're more or less there?

It would require 1 point to finish above whichever teams lost, however if only 1 of them loses, then they (the non loser) and Forest would still be able to catch us.

[tarie4]

22 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

Other than the fact there's a few players leaving this summer, I'm not sure 3/4 additions would cut it. That would just replace what we lose. 

 

I could easily see 7/8 players coming in this summer. Not all first team starters obviously. But all players who will be in the matchday squad. 

 

Willock, Longstaff, Wilson, Trippier, Barnes, Dubravka, Vlach, Targett, Pope (if we bring in a #1)

 

All players linked away or out of contract. That's NINE players that need replacing potentially.

Why sell Barnes? The guy gets a goal or assist every other game, nine Premier League goals this season, and half the time he was on the bench! I don't get it.

 

I'd keep Willock and Pope, personally.

[tarie4]

16 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

We had an awful injury record with a small squad and got 60 points. Thats our floor. 60 points. 
 

Keep what we have. Add 3 or 4 quality players. Maybe 1 or 2 youngsters and we could challenge. 
 

Had we had Tonali firing all season, we would’ve got close to mounting a title challenge this season alone.  We need bodies. But not 6 or 7.  

This.

We need a right winger, center back, center forward, and a midfielder, quality players, and we're good. We'll have bench options.

 

[Displayname]

I think we also need to get rid of a couple and replace them.

[tarie4]

18 minutes ago, WilliamPS said:

I agree they have better depth but way better? Take out their loan players and I think it doesn’t look quite so good for them. 
 

Put it this way, I wouldn’t swap squads with them 

 

 

 I wouldn't trade our starting eleven, but I'd totally swap their bench for ours. 

 

Look at their midfield compared to ours. It's obvious they have a better squad. We might have a better starting eleven, but definitely not a better squad overall, and its definitely a squad game this. 

[Displayname]

55 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Think Any PL side in the top 12 would have a decent crack at making the Europa league final this season. They wouldn’t have got to the final last year with Atalanta and Leverkusen. 
 

It’s genuinely harder to win a domestic cup this season.  
 

At least 3 of our 4 wins against Spurs/Man U were ‘live’ games. We smashed a live Man U at OT.  We are good. But that is insane. 

 

 

 

Well Aston Villa playing away to a top 12 side isnt a guaranteed win like. They have a pretty average away form this season.

[TRC]

I do think one of Spurs and Man U get some sort of result this weekend and I dont think Forest catch us.

[Elma]

54 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Stop me if I'm wrong, but if Chelsea or Villa lose on Friday, we're more or less there?

 

If Bournemouth had just taken a point off Villa on Saturday night we'd only need one point now. 

 

If Villa lose on Friday then the only result that would stop us would be a Forest win final day (likely by a single goal) with Forest and Chelsea winning their other games (Chelsea would need to overturn a four goal swing, so assuming we lose both of ours by one they'd need to beat Man U by at least three, probably four).

[LFEE]

56 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I understand nerves but we basically have done everything we could possibly do bar winning every game. There's nothing more we can ask. 

 

If all our rivals win all their games by multiple goals then we'll be in a conversation. Otherwise we're doing it. 

 

I’m just basing it off recent history. Going off these two fixtures in previous seasons we got 1 point last season and 2 points season before 

[SUPERTOON]

14 minutes ago, TRC said:

I do think one of Spurs and Man U get some sort of result this weekend and I dont think Forest catch us.

Based on what? 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, LFEE said:

 

I’m just basing it off recent history. Going off these two fixtures in previous seasons we got 1 point last season and 2 points season before 

We got 3 the season before? 1-0 home win against Everton with a Miggy screamer?

[TRC]

9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Based on what? 

Just feeling it for some reason!

[LFEE]

9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

We got 3 the season before? 1-0 home win against Everton with a Miggy screamer?

 

Ignore me then 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Even if we got two more points we could still do it. As I keep saying, I don’t want it to go to the wire but it looks like there’s no way around that now. 

[southernmag]

If you'd told me before this season that we'd win a cup and potentially finish 2nd, I'd have a hard time believing it.

 

If you'd told me that when we were 12th or whatever in December, I simply would not have believed it. No chance.

 

This really is a special group of players and a special manager. Not perfect, not above all criticism, but special. Let's enjoy it.

 

 

[SUPERTOON]

2 minutes ago, TRC said:

Just feeling it for some reason!

I hope you are right 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Even if we got two more points we could still do it. As I keep saying, I don’t want it to go to the wire but it looks like there’s no way around that now. 

It will be done when we beat Arsenal on Sunday. 

[The College Dropout]

48 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Well Aston Villa playing away to a top 12 side isnt a guaranteed win like. They have a pretty average away form this season.

Lucky for Aston Villa - Spurs and Man U aren’t top 12. They are facing second string and/or unmotivated teams with 2 of the most tactically predictable managers in the league.  
 

I don’t really care about Aston Villa. We are going to finish above them. 
 

Macro view - Villa are a bigger rival than Man U and Spurs. Their ownership’s aren’t levels. I don’t either ownership will make enough compounded good decisions. If not for FFP us and Villa would be title challengers. We will both find a way to make it happen. 

[The College Dropout]

I should stay away from this thread. 
 

We’ll get the 3 points needed and secure CL. 
 

We’ll sign Morgan Rogers June 30th. And challenge for the league next season. Win it the next.  Eddie Howe statue by 2030.  

[MagPar]

2 hours ago, Displayname said:

They have put all their focus on Europa. Think its an open question how they will respond after that is over.

 

In all seriousness, they cant be that shit when they made it to the Europa League final. Got to have something going on.

Yeah, it's called Bruno Fernandes. Without him they'd be in the bottom 3.

[JP]

Just realised, that point at Brighton looking massive right now.

 

Would be needing 4 from last two games to guarantee it if we'd lost at Brighton.